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Remarks by Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani in Conference Call Today (GREAT!!!)
Bush/Cheney 04 ^ | Monday, October 11, 2004 | Bush/Cheney

Posted on 10/11/2004 4:20:37 PM PDT by hipaatwo

Monday, October 11, 2004 Remarks by Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani in Conference Call Today

ARLINGTON, VA - Former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani delivered the following remarks in a Bush-Cheney '04 conference call today:

"For some time, and including when I spoke at the Republican Convention, I’ve wondered exactly what John Kerry’s approach would be to terrorism and I’ve wondered whether he had the conviction, the determination, and the focus, and the correct worldview to conduct a successful war against terrorism. And his quotations in the New York Times yesterday make it clear that he lacks that kind of committed view of the world. In fact, his comments are kind of extraordinary, particularly since he thinks we used to before September 11 live in a relatively safe world. He says we have to get back to the place we were, where terrorists are not the focus of our lives, but they’re a nuisance.

"I’m wondering exactly when Senator Kerry thought they were just a nuisance. Maybe when they attacked the USS Cole? Or when they attacked the World Trade Center in 1993? Or when they slaughtered the Israeli athletes at the Munich Olympics in 1972? Or killed Leon Klinghoffer by throwing him overboard? Or the innumerable number of terrorist acts that they committed in the 70s, the 80s and the 90s, leading up to September 11?

"This is so different from the President’s view and my own, which is in those days, when we were fooling ourselves about the danger of terrorism, we were actually in the greatest danger. When you don’t confront correctly and view realistically the danger that you face, that’s when you’re at the greatest risk. When you at least realize the danger and you begin to confront it, then you begin to become safer. And for him to say that in the good old days – I’m assuming he means the 90s and the 80s and the 70s -- they were just a nuisance, this really begins to explain a lot of his inconsistent positions on how to deal with it because he’s not defining it correctly.

"As a former law enforcement person, he says ‘I know we’re never going to end prostitution. We’re never going to end illegal gambling. But we’re going to reduce it.’ This is not illegal gambling; this isn’t prostitution. Having been a former law enforcement person for a lot longer than John Kerry ever was, I don’t understand his confusion. Even when he says ‘organized crime to a level where it isn’t not on the rise,’ it was not the goal of the Justice Department to just reduce organized crime. It was the goal of the Justice Department to eliminate organized crime. Was there some acceptable level of organized crime: two families, instead of five, or they can control one union but not the other?

The idea that you can have an acceptable level of terrorism is frightening. How do you explain that to the people who are beheaded or the innocent people that are killed, that we’re going to tolerate a certain acceptable [level] of terrorism, and that acceptable level will exist and then we’ll stop thinking about it? This is an extraordinary statement. I think it is not a statement that in any way is ancillary. I think this is the core of John Kerry’s thinking. This does create some consistency in his thinking.

"It is consistent with his views on Vietnam: that we should have left and abandoned Vietnam. It is consistent with his view of Nicaragua and the Sandinistas. It is consistent with his view of opposing Ronald Reagan at every step of the way in the arms buildup that was necessary to destroy communism. It is consistent with his view of not supporting the Persian Gulf War, which was another extraordinary step. Whatever John Kerry’s global test is, the Persian Gulf War certainly would pass anyone’s global test. If it were up to John Kerry, Saddam Hussein would not only still be in power, but he’d still be controlling Kuwait.

"Finally, what he did after the World Trade Center bombing in 1993, where I guess at that point terrorism was still just a nuisance. He must have thought that because that’s why he proposed seriously reducing our intelligence budget, when you would think someone who was really sensitive to the problem of terrorism would have done just the opposite. I think that rather than being some aberrational comment, it is the core of the John Kerry philosophy: that terrorism is no different than domestic law enforcement problems, and that the best we’re ever going to be able to do is reduce it, so why not follow the more European approach of compromising with it the way Europeans did in the 70s and the 80s and the 90s?

"This is so totally different than what I think was the major advance that President Bush made – significant advance that he made in the Bush Doctrine on September 20, 2001, when he said we’re going to face up to terrorism and we’re going to do everything we can to defeat it, completely. There’s no reason why we have to tolerate global terrorism, just like there’s no reason to tolerate organized crime.

"So I think this is a seminal issue, this is one that explains or ties together a lot of things that we’ve talked about. Even this notion that the Kerry campaign was so upset that the Vice President and others were saying that he doesn’t understand the threat of terrorism; that he thinks it’s just a law enforcement action. It turns out the Vice President was right. He does and maybe this is a difference, maybe this is an honest difference that we really should debate straight out. He thinks that the threat is not as great as at least the President does, and I do, and the Vice President does."


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To: MeekOneGOP; onyx; My2Cents; JohnHuang2; Dog Gone; Dog; isthisnickcool; OKSooner; VOA; mhking; ...

Please see that this gets widespread distribution. Write letters to the editor, call talk radio, and send to your local TV affiliates and anyone you know!

Thanks,

PKM


21 posted on 10/11/2004 4:57:12 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Oklahoma is Reagan Country and now Bush Country -- Vote for Dr. Tom)
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To: hipaatwo
Jan. 30, 2004: "Kerry says threat of terrorism is exaggerated"

http://www.washingtontimes.com/national/20040129-115023-8966r.htm

22 posted on 10/11/2004 4:57:57 PM PDT by Graymatter (Reload Bush/Cheney 2004)
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To: PhiKapMom

it got mention on the Hugh Hewitt Show today (www.hughhewitt.com)


23 posted on 10/11/2004 4:58:23 PM PDT by VOA
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To: hipaatwo
Yaawn better be careful. One more flub like this and NY may become a Battleground state!! Rudy Rox!!

Pray for W and Our Troops

24 posted on 10/11/2004 5:01:46 PM PDT by bray (Hey Dingbat, how do you say Tax-Evasion in Portugese???)
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To: hipaatwo
How far ahead would President Bush be in the polls if he could speak with the clarity and force of Rudy Guilliani? 10% ahead? 20% ahead? Mind you, that doesn't mean that Bush is anything less than the obvious and absolute choice for reelection.

We have to accept our Presidents as we find them, as witness Harry Truman and Calvin Coolidge. Neither was much as a public speaker. Both were good Presidents for their times.

Congressman Billybob

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25 posted on 10/11/2004 5:04:41 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Visit: www.ArmorforCongress.com please.)
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To: nutmeg

Good for Rudy...laying it out in plain language for all to see what a weenie Kerry would be as prez.


26 posted on 10/11/2004 5:11:10 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: hipaatwo
Very awesome Mayor Giuliani! Well done!
27 posted on 10/11/2004 5:11:37 PM PDT by DaveMSmith (One Day at A Time || Blue Angel in PJs)
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To: Se7eN

Ditto!!!


28 posted on 10/11/2004 5:24:26 PM PDT by Gothguy
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To: PhiKapMom

bttt


29 posted on 10/11/2004 5:24:40 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55 (http://www.osurepublicans.com)
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To: hipaatwo

Did I detect an opening Rudy created regarding acts of terrorism which were perhaps explained away as something else? I think so.............


30 posted on 10/11/2004 5:33:06 PM PDT by blackdog (Can we possibly have just one more "Kidz-Bop"?)
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To: VOA

Great! Thanks for the info!


31 posted on 10/11/2004 5:34:22 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Oklahoma is Reagan Country and now Bush Country -- Vote for Dr. Tom)
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To: hipaatwo; Mo1; Peach
Even when he says ‘organized crime to a level where it isn’t not on the rise,’ it was not the goal of the Justice Department to just reduce organized crime. It was the goal of the Justice Department to eliminate organized crime. Was there some acceptable level of organized crime: two families, instead of five, or they can control one union but not the other?

Excellent point that I wanted to highlight by posting again.

Prairie

32 posted on 10/11/2004 5:38:09 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (The Old Media is no longer a news service. It's a transcription service for the DNC.)
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To: PhiKapMom
This next debate is supposed to be about domestic issue. I hope President Bush has the wherewith all to link the WOT to domestic issues both directly and indirectly.
33 posted on 10/11/2004 5:41:39 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: prairiebreeze

That's a good catch from his remarks today, prairie!

Excellent point. We don't want to reduce organized crime, not reduce it.


34 posted on 10/11/2004 5:41:40 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: prairiebreeze

Come to think of it, we don't know what kind of Attorney General Kerry was, either. We all know he is a first class DA.


35 posted on 10/11/2004 5:43:10 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter
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To: blackdog
I think so.............

What is it that you detect?

36 posted on 10/11/2004 5:50:41 PM PDT by Dolphy (It's not a plan, it's an echo.)
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To: Dolphy; blackdog
What is it that you detect?

Yes, I'd like to know too. Now's not the time to go all cryptic, LOL.

37 posted on 10/11/2004 5:58:04 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (The Old Media is no longer a news service. It's a transcription service for the DNC.)
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To: hipaatwo

God bless Rudy. He sees through kerrys flim flam campaign.


38 posted on 10/11/2004 5:58:28 PM PDT by freeangel (freeangel)
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To: Dolphy

Rudy was a federal prosecuter in the New York federal district. The big cheese in the 80's. As a law enforcement official he was privvy to a lot of stuff and has a lot of inside contacts. What I am getting at is the TWA #800 fiasco as well as other issues during the timeperiod which may have been truth victims of a national policy to deny terrorism events in general. Remember, the administration in the 90's saw terrorism as a law enforcement concern.


39 posted on 10/11/2004 5:59:41 PM PDT by blackdog (Can we possibly have just one more "Kidz-Bop"?)
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To: prairiebreeze
"The innumerable terrorism acts during the 70's, 80's and 90's which led up to 9/11......"

Seems like a pretty wide opening in an otherwise specific comminique.

40 posted on 10/11/2004 6:02:23 PM PDT by blackdog (Can we possibly have just one more "Kidz-Bop"?)
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