Posted on 10/11/2004 2:01:24 PM PDT by no dems
I suspect the Democrats will try to turn Christopher eeve's death into a pep rally just as they turned the late Senator Paul Wellstone's death into a pep rally.
Don Quiote committed his life to slaying windmills.
Kerry is probably going to bring Reeve's death up in this week's debate, so Bush better be ready for it.
Do any freepers remember in F'n's response to GWB about it if he said something close to that ??.....(he said it to rebutt the 22 or so strains GWB mentioned trying to say they were "worthless"...)
I don't remember any more than you do about kerry said. What he says isn't worth the brain cells it takes to remember. IMO
No, not a chance. They learned their lesson from the Wellstone pep rally. They're scum but not dumb.
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I agree. Bush should simply say that (a) he didn't throw Reeves from the horse, and (b) Gee, John...who was president when he did get thrown by the horse??? |
let them do a wellstone all over again.
Actually, Harvard University opened a department to do this recently. Made big news, with the NYT claiming that it shows the "failure" of Bush's policy on stem cell research. To me, it shows the success. This research should be done by private interests, not the government. Interestingly, before Harvard announced this, the NYT claimed that Bush's policy was a failure, and as proof, cited the fact that private interests had not come forward to fund this research. No matter what happens, the NYT says it's a failure.
I can't believe that.
How smart can they be. They nominated the biggest traitor since Benedict Arnold and made the centerpiece of their convention his service in Vietnam?!
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I didn't know that, thanks. That's how it should be done! Maybe they can find something promising using adult stem cells.
I posted this to my BLOG today:
I'm sorry that Mr. Reeve has died. He was a talented, if self indulgent, man. He had a tragic accident and handled himself generally well in the years since. However......
I'm going to commit sacrilege right now. Let me preface my remarks by stating that I have dealt with quadriplegics and paraplegics for over 30 years, both professionally and in my family. I'm not blowing smoke on this.
The consensus of the quads and paras that I have encountered is that Christopher Reeve was not a hero of “the cause.” He didn’t work for the benefit of anyone but Christopher Reeve. He didn’t attend events raising funds for quads and paras who were hurting NOW. He spent his time raising big bucks in his elitists community directed solely at exploring a cure for him. Regardless of the praise heaped on Reeve on the Miami Project web page, he wasn't viewed in the same way by the folks I've known as they view Marc Buoniconti and his dad Nick.
Having said that I will admit that my exposure is from way down in the weeds, one on one with a limited number of folks in a limited number of facilities. I feel, however, that I have come by my opinons on the subject honestly.
My big problem was that Christopher Reeve's primary cause was embryonic stem cell research. This “miracle” research was held out as the only hope for him therefore it was the only thing he wanted research money spent on. In fact when President Bush became the first President to provide Federal funds for stem cell research Reeve immediately launched a vitriolic campaign that there were too many restrictions and not enough money to suit him.
Well, embryonic stem cell research has so far produced no results. All experiments that have provided some encouraging research results have been from adult stem cells. All of the experiments done with embryonic stem cells have had virtually universal catastrophic side affects, mostly run away cancers. Forget the ethics, so far embryonic stem cell research is a dry hole.
And how might a laymen judge this statement? Simple. If embryonic stem cell research offered any promise of results it would be a source of profit for the medical firms doing the research and they would be willing to fund it, the way they are funding adult stem cell research.
Embryonic stem cell research has one distinct difference from adult stem cell research. It requires the destruction of a human being and “harvesting” of the desired cells. So who benefits from this if the actual research is not supporting the medical benefits promised by the promoters? The abortion industry. They have a problem. They aren’t making enough money. They need a new market for their “product” and no one in their right minds in industry will throw money down that rat hole, not even themselves. So they need the government to fund the research for them. Pretty disgusting, isn’t it?
And that brings up the ethical question. I have actually though about this general subject quite a lot. I have a different perspective than most people on the ethics of something like this. It is not my personal connection to someone who might benefit from this research (though I’m convinced he won’t). No, my perspective comes from the fact that I am a multiple transplant recipient. It is only my corneas (3 times) but it still means that I have benefited from someone else’s death. Now the gift that those people gave me was truly a gift, something that they volunteered. I bless them and their generosity. In the case of embryonic stem cell research there is no volunteering. The “resource” that is being “harvested” isn’t asked if they want to die in order to make someone else’s life easier. And some creatures want to make a profit from this.
The analogy that comes to mind when I think of my own circumstance is Frankenstein. I have a totally different perspective on “the monster” than anyone who isn’t a transplant recipient. For adult stem cell research the analogy holds true. For embryonic stem cell research there are two analogies we can draw from: vampires and flesh eating zombies.
I am happy that Mr. Reeve is spared that grotesque fate. I wonder if he had the morals to donate his organs for transplant?
George Reeves was always Superman to me. Then he was shot by hitlery!
Is Krathhamer a parapeligic? I've suspected he is for some time... anyway, he is livid about the comments made on the air by the Kerry administration over this subject using Christopher Reeves name -- one comment I caught was : "We've" been studying this for a long time now and there still is no proof this is going to be the solution... (it was at the end of the Britt Hume show today)
Before his accident in 1995, he didn't give a wet slap about stem cell research. Only when it affected him personally did he take up the banner.
And that is a bad thing? Why?
For example, how many people would be involved in one of the various cancer societies had they not been personally affected by the disease in some way? Even Saint Paul came to see the light, so to speak.
Wow..... you are good !
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