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First-Grader Arrested, Handcuffed After Fight
local6.com ^ | 10/06/04 | unknown

Posted on 10/06/2004 3:57:47 PM PDT by rocksblues

8 year old boy arrested in Florida for fighting. Link to article. http://www.local6.com/news/3788347/detail.html


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: crime; discipline; florida; kids; liberals; schoolviolence
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To: Bob

not if they flunk first grade.


41 posted on 10/06/2004 5:27:00 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: rocksblues

My guess is that there is something wrong with the kid. He's still in first grade.

Maybe they needed to handcuff him so he wouldn't be able to hurt anyone.

I have a daughter with brain damage. She has thrown some duzzies of tantrums where I have threatened to call the police. She's only 7, and she can hit, kick, and jump on me pretty good. I've had to restrain her hard during some of her tantrums. If I had handcuffs, I would have used them. I rather that then her hit or break something.


42 posted on 10/06/2004 5:30:57 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: rocksblues

Im fine with the cop arresting AND handcuffing the kid...

As a matter of fact, there are a couple in my neighborhood I wouldn't mind seeing handcuffed... Think this guy will travel?


43 posted on 10/06/2004 5:34:26 PM PDT by The Hollywood Conservative
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To: rocksblues

now is the time


44 posted on 10/06/2004 5:38:15 PM PDT by maxxie
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To: myprecious

When my husband was a teacher's aide he was asking to replace an aide in another school because one little girl (who was 6 or 7) had broken the aide's arm.


45 posted on 10/06/2004 5:39:27 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: hoody

Maybe the kid is special needs.

I have a kid with brain damage. She doesn't do discipline like other kids.

She's smart as a whip, but she has lots of impulse control problems. They are better as she has gotten older, but she still has terrible tantrums.

I remember when she was little, she would run out into the street many times. Each time I would either restrain her (if we were not home), or I would scoop her up and take her indoors and literally lock her in her room. I did this hundreds of times, and she never got it. If you spanked her, she would go into more a tantrum, and hurt herself, her siblings, me, or break something.

My son ran across the street once without looking. I scooped him up and just stopped playing outside. He never did it again.

My other daughter ran across the street just a few times, and I scooped her up and she learned.

This is just one example of how discipline is very different on a special needs kid. In fact, sometimes they seek the thrill of misbehaving.


46 posted on 10/06/2004 5:40:31 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: steplock
what the hell is he doing in school?

This is a question you need to ask a Liberal.

ML/NJ

47 posted on 10/06/2004 5:41:11 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Ludicrous
What does everyone expect? To just let the kids run off? Boys will be boys?

Pretty much..... A punch and a slap.... on an older boy no less. Someone seriously over-reacted to this.

48 posted on 10/06/2004 5:45:04 PM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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To: Xphantasos
Now you have complicated the issue

Death by hanging or hang by the neck until dead?

49 posted on 10/06/2004 5:46:15 PM PDT by D Rider
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To: steplock

Every kid is different. I don't know where the parents of either child were. I wouldn't let a kid like this alone with another child.

My daughter has had severe tantrums due to brain damage, but she does not belong in an insane asylum.

For one thing, some kids only have tantrums in the security of their own homes. They "hold it together" for places like school. That's my daughter. She's almost 8, and she has never hit, bit, kicked, yelled, screamed, etc at school. In fact, she is a model student. She's quiet and is a hard worker. The kids like her, and her teachers like her.

However, once she gets home all H*** breaks loose. She really takes it out on her siblings. Grant it, they push her buttons. When she is tired, she just can't compose herself. She has severe speech problems, and she doesn't talk as well when she is tired. She resorts to bad kicking, biting, screaming, etc.

Autistic kids are another example. They can also be set off. The school officials working with such kids should not leave them alone, and should have rules about how to restrain them. Most of the time, they are fine. These kids do learn. These kids will outgrow a lot of these behaviors.

I am sure that my daughter will be a fine young productive member of society when she is older. She just learns differently than other kids, but she will learn how to handle herself. She's already grown up so much in the past 3 years.


50 posted on 10/06/2004 5:49:46 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
Just think how convenient it would for the mother to tell her child "Clean up the house you little bleep or I will abort you".:)

There's a short story by sci-fi author Philip Dick called "The Pre-Persons" that was written back in 1973. He received tons of hate mail by his leftist friends for it. He stuck by his anti-abortion position though and it is an interesting read along the lines you mention.

51 posted on 10/06/2004 5:52:48 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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To: Cowgirl

You're right!


52 posted on 10/06/2004 6:39:41 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: rocksblues
"Bravo!

Well ;^). . .

The sad thing here is that 'we' are the only ones who recognize it!

If this were a bumper sticker or somesuch; the people most needing to 'get it'; wouldn't.

53 posted on 10/06/2004 6:42:08 PM PDT by cricket (Don't lose your head. . vote Republican. . .)
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1

Thank you
I love SF and I don't know how I missed him.


"Dick imagines a future where Congress has decided that abortion is legal until the soul enters the body, which is specified as the ability to do simple algebra. The main protester--a former Stanford math major--demands to be taken to the abortion center, since he claims to have forgotten all his algebra. "


54 posted on 10/06/2004 6:50:02 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rather calls Saddam "Mister President" and calls President Bush "bush")
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1

I just bid on this on ebay.


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55 posted on 10/06/2004 7:07:26 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rather calls Saddam "Mister President" and calls President Bush "bush")
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To: HungarianGypsy
Schools are now required to provide an education to every student regardless of needs. That means that even violent, uncontrolable children are first given an opportunity to be in a normal classroom setting. Only after many extensive and well documented outbursts can a child be removed from the class. It takes lots of meetings between experts and parents while the fellow students are sufficiently terrorized .

But it still does not stop there. The little rascal is placed with other challenged kids under the guidance of teacher aides. Oh, a real teacher is on hand somewhere, but the aides run the show. The behavior that was abnormal is suddenly the standard with new methods demonstrated by the fellow inmates. Quite a system.

56 posted on 10/06/2004 7:52:51 PM PDT by myprecious
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To: rocksblues

Reminds me of my grammar school days! ;-)


57 posted on 10/06/2004 7:54:25 PM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: rocksblues
I would have agreed with you a few years ago, but these days some 8 year olds are not like they used to be. There are some even younger raping and murdering according to news I have seen. This could be totally out of line, I don't know the child, but it could be necessary too.
58 posted on 10/06/2004 7:57:38 PM PDT by ladyinred ("John Kerry reporting for spitball and typewriter duty.")
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To: rocksblues
An 8 year old and a 10 year old fighting, who would have thought that kind of thing would require handcuffs and a booking.

Nanny state, we're coming for ya! It's taken a little bit longer than you thought it might, because some of us refuse to give in, but just give us some time, and we'll be there soon enough.

59 posted on 10/06/2004 8:15:35 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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