Posted on 10/06/2004 12:37:04 PM PDT by mehster
alright, here i go...
ironically, fahrenhype 9/11 presents a more devastating case a for michael moore's alleged, yet sometimes obvious, hatred of america. the movie focuses solely on F9/11, as should be expected from the title. it's never slanderous, although certain people interviewed have some choice words for mikey, heh.
the movie starts off in the florida classroon, interviewing the black woman who sat next to him in the photo-op (i believe she was the principal). she disposes a few myths (the children were reading to him, the book was never upside-down, etc), and then proceeds to splice in commentary from various other people. one man, presents the fact that bush stayed in the classroom, for 5 minutes (not 7 as moore claims), and the proceeds to say something along the lines of, "if someone cant get the little details right, i would certainly question his ability to grasp the 'whole picture'."
more than fair, imo.
the movie then has a little segment on the pantagraph article, and how moore has never apologized for the blatantly dishonest editing used on, rather dismissed it as a 'typo' and claiming he has done nothing wrong. :roll: the movie thne jumps from iraq, to the saudis, osama, the connection with bush and the carlyle group, and various conspiracy theories moore has conjured out of... well... somewhere.
the film is written and directed by alan peterson, with some contribution from dick morris and a few others. there is a wide variety of people interviewed, from the common man on the street, to the actor ron silver, to liberal-eating ann coulter (who, suprisingly, received very little air time).
the movie had more than a few facts that i was not aware of. for instance, it shows that clinton's former chief of staff is an advisor (if i remember correctly) to the carlyle group, and has an invested financial interest of his own. it also shows footage of every president of the last 45 years, or so, having special meetings with the saudis (just as moore shows pics of the bush's and the saudis, in an attempt to connect some sort of invented dots)... including JFK, carter, ford, reagan, etc.
the film, mostly through dick morris and frank gaffney, also spends some time (20 minutes is my guesstimation) on clinton and his failures in the now-war on terror. it tells of how when they had solid intel in 1999 that OBL was going to be in quandor for five days, clinton called off the air strike. dick morris summed it up pretty well, referring to bush and 9/11, 'it happened under his watch, and he deserves 8 months of blame, but clinton deserves 8 years of blame.'
overall i felt the movie was fairly well done, a little slow for me, but its not enough to detract from the overall message. it ended on a patriotic, 'america, land that i love', type fadeout... a little too cheesy for me, but luckily that was really the only time. one funny scene replays ashcroft singing that 'soaring eagle' song and ron silver commenting, 'give me enough footage of moore in various situations and i can make him look like an anorexic right-wing nut.'
lol...
i recommend this movie to all moore-lovers and bush-haters, and certainly to those who have seen moore's work of deceit, farfromright 9/11. it is not as extensive as i would've liked it to be, but in the parts it does touch on, it is fairly thorough and uses commentary from various individuals. i don't think i gave too much of the content away, as there are many scenes i didn't even talk about (interviews with various soldiers, facts about bush's "vacation" time, etc). take 80 minutes out of your life to watch this flick. 8)
thanks! I can't wait to get a copy!
Saw the advertisement for this Movie on Fox TV....great little commercial, they should post more of the movie in TV commercials.
oops... it should read:
"...presents a more devastating case... then 'michael moore hates america'." without that edit, it doesnt really make that sentence ironic does it? lol.
(sure - I'd watch the DVD)
My wife and I watched the video last night. I had already done quite a bit of research and reading about Mr. Moore's film and the fabrications contained therein, so I wasn't surprised by much. However, there were items exposed that I was not aware of. Things that should be spread across the media to the same extent as Mr. Moore's film. He also should be brought to task on his deceptions and fabrications. The man is simply Hearst in hippo's clothing.
I thought the movie did a good job of destructing the Saudi/Bin Laden/Bush Family "conspiracy", and turning it around on democrats, and yes, the obvious lies that Moore used just makes him look ever more petty.
The scene where Moore explains what went through his head as he walked up onstage to receive his undeserved Oscar shows how it all just about Mikey.
The movie is well narrated by Ron Silver.
Awaiting delivery of my copy.
I stopped reading after the second or third paragraph because of the lack of capitalization. Presentation is important.
Spall chieck is a wunderfol tuul also. If it wuz me I would tipe it into wurd, run spall chieck and then pste it onto the post scrren to make sure I din't make ani mystakes.
ani >> eny
just rented this and cant wait to watch it tonite.
Dam,
Oh wheel I tryd
Very funny, lmao!
BTTT
well then thats your loss. i dont bother with capitalization when im writing on some online forum... its not exactly a graded essay or anything, so i honestly dont care. im fairly concerned with punctuation, but it wont make or break me. im more concerned with spelling than the latter two, so if you want to correct me on something, correct me on spelling, as i couldnt really care less about punctuation and/or capitalization on an online message board.
Is the typing, grammer, etc. really meant to be this bad?
My apologies if I have missed the point.
In that mehster has been a member for a long time now, since 9-14-2004, I suspect that the real problem is that they don't teach any of your before mentioned objections over at du.
i fail to see few, if any, grammatical errors. whats wrong with my typing? a lack of apostrophes and capitilization? read my comment above for an explanation of that. i'm 'attempting' (i guess) to show my disdain for moore in a light-hearted review of a rebuttal to moore's inept and confused movie of lies and deceits.
apology accepted?
LOL, apology retracted.
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