LIVE THREAD: The 2004 Vice Presidential Debate: Cheney v. Edwards

Free Republic ^ | October 5, 2004

[Howlin]

9:00 P.M. EDT

[4MORE-YEARS]

Congrats to the VP!! Nice job to stick it to Shampoo boy and not fall for that disgraceful Halliburton baiting.

[MJY1288]

NOPE, not a peep

[4MORE-YEARS]

Congrats to the VP!! Nice job to stick it to Shampoo boy and not fall for that disgraceful Halliburton baiting.

[jrcats]

Edwards just met the shredder & got spit out! Cheney won!

[gaba]

msnbc said no such thing...I'm watching it now.

[Redleg Duke]

I see that the VP's success has you chewing the carpet again.

[Ciexyz]

Gee, thanks Mr. Edwards for suing the medical profession into a massive financial funk. I'm lucky I have a physician in my area that's still practicing.

I got a giggle from seeing the list of 'related topics' for this thread: TRIALLAWYERSARETOAST.

[sinkspur]

You have me confused with someone else, butthead.

[txradioguy]

OMG!!!

I just voted on the CNN poll about who wond the debate. It's running 85% in FAVOR of the Breck Girl!

WTF????

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

Prety boy Jane Fonda Edwards has to change his/her diaper!

[txradioguy]

OMG!!!

I just voted on the CNN poll about who wond the debate. It's running 85% in FAVOR of the Breck Girl!

And someone is skewing the polls at the FNC website too.

67% say "no one won" on the FNC POLL!


WTF????

[BobS]

Don't worry. I met guys like silky from other companies like Boeing and Raytheon and various others when I was supposed to entertain them with BS and I told them- I'm busy, don't bother me! I don't need the BS lunch because I am working on other stuff! I have never been invited to meet them again!

[txradioguy]

CHENEY THROWS DOWN THE GAUNTLET: "With respect with the cost -- it wasn't $200 billion. You probably weren't there to vote for that... You're not credible on Iraq because of the enormous inconsistencies of John Kerry and you have had on Iraq."

# EDWARDS REBUTTAL: "The American people saw John Kerry on Thursday night. The American people don't need them to have the President or Vice President tell them what John Kerry is."

# CHENEY RESPONSE: "Your rhetoric would be more credible if there was something to back it up."

# MORE CHENEY: "If they couldn't stand up to pressures that Howard Dean raises, how can we expect them to face al Qaeda?"

# EDWARDS HITS BACK: "A long resume does not equal good judgment. We've seen over and over and over the misjudgments of this Administration"

FIRST HALLIBURTON REFERENCE: 9:25...

# EDWARDS COMPARES HALLIBURTON TO ENRON

# CHENEY REBUTTAL: "The reason they want to attack Halliburton because they want to obscure their record. And frankly Senator your Senate record is not that distinguished... Your hometown newspaper has taken to call you 'Senator Gone.' I'm the President of the Senate... the first time I've ever met you is on this stage tonight."

GWEN IFILL THROWS DOWN THE GAUNTLET:

# CHENEY: "My response will take more than 30 seconds."

# GWEN IFILL: "Well that's all you've got."

# IFILL ON EDWARDS: "I asked him about Israel even though he didn't talk about it much."

FACT CHECK: CHENEY WRONG ABOUT CLAIM HE HAS NOT LINKED SADDAM HUSSEIN AND 9/11

# CHENEY ON 9/11 PILOT MOHAMMED ATTA ON 12/6/01: "...It's been pretty well confirmed that he did go to Prague and he did meet with a senior official of the Iraqi intelligence service in Czechoslovakia last April..."

# 9/11 COMMISSION says that the available evidence does not support the original Czech report of such a meeting. (9/11 Commission report)

FACT CHECK: EDWARDS WRONG ABOUT $200 BILLION COST OF IRAQ

# EDWARDS DURING DEBATE: "The first Gulf War cost America $5 billion, we are at $200 billion and counting."

# GAO ANALYSIS reports Iraq war has cost $120 - $130 billion... Congress has appropriated an extra $25 billion, but only few billion of that has been spent...

FACT CHECK: EDWARDS WRONG ABOUT BODY ARMOR

EDWARDS DURING DEBATE: "They sent 40,000 American troops into Iraq without the body armor they need."

# GENERAL PETER PACE says 40,000 troops did have armor, just not Interceptor body armor -- new bullet-proof vests that stop bullets at close range...

CHENEY SAYS STATES SHOULD DECIDE SAME SEX MARRIAGE: "The fact is that the President felt that it was important to make it clear that that's the wrong way to go. He sets policy for the Administration and I support him."

# EDWARDS LAUDS CHENEY, REFERENCES MARY CHENEY: "&but we should not use the Constitution to divide this country."

EDWARDS HITS CHENEY OVER DOMESTIC POLICIES: "Mr. Vice President I don't think the American people can take 4 more years of that experience."

FIRST QUESTION REFERS TO PAUL BREMER STATEMENTS:

# CHENEY: "It's important to look at our in Iraq in the context of the global war on terror... [Saddam Hussein] had an established relationship with al Qaeda... What we did in Iraq is exactly the right course of action."

# EDWARDS REBUTTAL: "Mr. Vice President, you are still not being straight with the American people."

# CHENEY RESPONSE: "The notion of additional troops is talked about frequently... I'm confident that we'll get the job done."

# EDWARDS RESPONSE: "There are no connection between the attacks of Sept. 11 and Saddam Hussein."

QUESTION TO EDWARDS: WOULD SADDAM STILL BE IN POWER IF YOU AND KERRY WERE IN WHITE HOUSE?

# EDWARDS: "It needed to be done the right way. We didn't need to take our eye off the ball, which was on Al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden..."

# OOPS: "They gave the responsibility of killing Saddam Hussein -- er, Osama bin Laden -- to Afghan warlords."

# CHENEY REBUTTAL: "I have not suggested there was a connection between Iraq and 9/11. But there is a direct connection between Iraq and terror..."

# CHENEY HITS KERRY, EDWARDS: "They are not prepared to deal with states responsible for terror... We heard Sen. Kerry say the other night that there ought to be a global test... A little tough talk... as part of a presidential debate does not make up for being on the wrong side of defense for 30 years..."

CHENEY AND EDWARDS DIFFER OVER AFGHANISTAN:

# EDWARDS: "Not only are they providing 75 percent of the world's opium, large-cut parts of the country are under the control of drug lords and warlords. Big parts of the country are still insecure."

# CHENEY: "The power of that concept is enormous. And it will apply in Afghanistan, and it will apply as well in Iraq."

[SupplySider]

LOL! Yuppers....Cheney just laid the SMACKDOWN on poor little Pony Boy....it was a blinding barrage of The People's Elbow for 90 minutes tonite. I LOVE IT!

I loved it too.

I just have one thing to add.

I rely on oil for my car and in many products that I use. THANK YOU HALLIBURTON for being the best oil services company in the world! Thank you Mr. Cheney for your HONORABLE service at that great company!

[lepton]

bookmark bump - VP debate

[lizma]

From the NEA's statment on Damn They Want Us to be Responsible errr No Child Left Behind.

Cleveland, Ohio has cut 172 teacher positions and completely eliminated summer school.

I guess the silky pony knows something the NEA doesn't know! Right. Who's gonna count up all the lies whinny man told?

On Fox "Edwards has a client he can't defend". LOL!

[Ciexyz]

The kid didn't impress me at all during the debate. But I'm sure the MSM will be pushing the spin that he won. Style over substance and all that sh**.

[claudiustg]

Yeah, like Kerry voted for tax cuts 600 times. Oh man, we're cooked. These guys are tax cutting fools. They've stolen the main Republican issue right out from under us. What are we going to do? :^)

[Diddle E. Squat]

Then obviously you are blind.

[CurlyBill]

Cheney smacked Edwards around like a jailhouse girlyman. For some reason, the media is spinning this as Cheney winning foreign policy and Edwards winning the domestic portion. Even Fred Barnes subscribed to this... I don't know what debate they were watching!