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Moore invitation a UVSC violation?
Deseret News ^ | 05 October 2004 | Jesse Hyde

Posted on 10/05/2004 6:38:17 AM PDT by batter

Utah Valley State College officials may have violated school rules when they agreed to bring controversial filmmaker Michael Moore to the campus on Oct. 20 at a cost of $50,500.

According to the student constitution, the college's student council cannot approve spending more than $50,000 for a single event without advising the student body of the expense and holding a forum to discuss it.

But Phil Clegg, the UVSC administrator who signed the contract, said Moore's $40,000 speaking fee and $10,500 travel costs are two separate expenses.

Because the two fees are separate, Clegg said, the contract did not violate the student constitution. And in the end, the point is moot, Clegg said, because after ticket sales, Moore's speech will cost the school $15,000 to $20,000.

"If we wouldn't have sold one ticket, we may have had a problem," said Clegg, director of student leadership and activities.

UVSC student Sean Vreeland, who organized a petition drive to recall top student government leaders over the Moore flap, said regardless of ticket sales, student government leaders acted outside of their guidelines.

Because of that, Vreeland said he will ask the two top student government officers, Jim Bassi and Joe Vogel, to step down today.

"The student constitution states plainly any engagement over $50,000 has to go through a student government process. They didn't do any of those things beforehand," Vreeland said. "The amount of money and the fact they didn't let the student body know at all is just wrong. It was done behind closed doors. Obviously, the student government is supposed to represent the student body, and they didn't."

Clegg said the school planned to sell tickets even before the contract was signed. So far, roughly $35,000 worth of tickets have been sold for the Moore speech, which is sold out.

Tickets to an appearance by conservative radio talk-show host Sean Hannity speech also sold out Monday. Tickets that would have gone to faculty that weren't picked up will go on sale Wednesday at 9 a.m. for $5.

On Monday, about 100 students gathered in the UVSC quad for a mock rally opposing the visit by Hannity, who was asked to speak to students to counter Moore's liberal leanings.

Organizers called the event "sarcastic" and said they were making fun of students who held a rally two weeks ago opposing the Moore speech.

One organizer held up a fictitious picture of Hannity standing with Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden. In another, Hannity sat with Saddam in a strip club.

Event organizer Matt Gifford said "we're not really anti-Hannity. We're pro-freedom of speech."

While the lighthearted rally was met mostly with laughs, not everyone was amused. Kay Anderson, a UVSC neighbor who offered the school $25,000 to rescind its invitation to Moore, said students hosting the rally missed his point.

"I'm all for free speech, but this isn't about free speech, this is about respect," he said. "They aren't showing respect for the community."

As for the students who approved Moore's visit, Vreeland said he is going to insist on their resignation or present his petition, which he said now has the 2,415 signatures necessary for a recall election.

"Depending on what goes on from there, we're going to ask them to step down," he said. "If that doesn't happen, we'll go through with the recall."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: hannity; moore; recall; utah; uvsc
now has the 2,415 signatures necessary for a recall election.

Way to go!

1 posted on 10/05/2004 6:38:17 AM PDT by batter
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To: RecallUVSC; JPJones; Utah Binger; Utah Girl; T Minus Four; Rad_J; Technocrat; redrock; ...

Utah PING! Good news.


2 posted on 10/05/2004 6:39:03 AM PDT by batter ("Never let the enemy pick the battle site." - Gen. George S. Patton)
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Structuring - a time honored way of avoiding spending limits.


3 posted on 10/05/2004 6:42:07 AM PDT by vollmond
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To: soccer8
"Honey, my new outfit did not cost $500. The dress was $350 and the shoes, which are a separate expense, are $150."

Hmm. Might work.

4 posted on 10/05/2004 6:48:15 AM PDT by PackerBoy (Just my opinion ....)
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To: PackerBoy

Perhaps breaking the fee into three parts would solve the problem:

1) $35,000 for speaking
2) $15,000 for transporation
3) $5,000 for food.

You can't maintain that type of body without lots of food!


5 posted on 10/05/2004 6:53:10 AM PDT by Voltage
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To: soccer8
$10,500 travel costs

Excuse me? What the heck is THAT for?
His entourage?
His doughnut bill?
His Rolls Royce?

6 posted on 10/05/2004 7:12:34 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: soccer8
$10,500 travel costs? I'd like to see that itemized. How do you get to that figure? Even using high figures, you'd have:

$600 plane ticket, round trip.
$600 hotel, two nights.
$300 meal money.
$500 local transportation.
$500 misc expenses.


Where does the other $8,000 come in?

And the fat-ass Moore is obsessed with HALLIBURTON gouging the taxpayers.
7 posted on 10/05/2004 7:26:09 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: soccer8
$10,500 travel costs? I'd like to see that itemized. How do you get to that figure? Even using high figures, you'd have:

$600 plane ticket, round trip.
$600 hotel, two nights.
$300 meal money.
$500 local transportation.
$500 misc expenses.


Where does the other $8,000 come in?

And the fat-ass Moore is obsessed with HALLIBURTON gouging the taxpayers.
8 posted on 10/05/2004 7:26:39 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: soccer8

Seriously, some student needs to get up and ask Moore: you've criticizied Halliburton for ripping off the public, but that's what you're doing, you hypocritical fat ass. Justify you're inflated speaking fees and your absurd travel expenses. Do you eat 100 double cheeseburgers every day? How big are your turds?


9 posted on 10/05/2004 7:29:36 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: soccer8

Moore is doing 60 engagements at $40,000 per?

That's another $2.4 million dollars that he's raking in.


10 posted on 10/05/2004 7:30:41 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: soccer8
But Phil Clegg, the UVSC administrator who signed the contract, said Moore's $40,000 speaking fee and $10,500 travel costs are two separate expenses.

How...Clintonian of him.

11 posted on 10/05/2004 7:30:45 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: soccer8
"But Phil Clegg, the UVSC administrator who signed the contract, said Moore's $40,000 speaking fee and $10,500 travel costs are two separate expenses. Because the two fees are separate, Clegg said, the contract did not violate the student constitution. And in the end, the point is moot, Clegg said, because after ticket sales, Moore's speech will cost the school $15,000 to $20,000."

This dishonest POS should be fired.
12 posted on 10/05/2004 7:32:03 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: soccer8
"But Phil Clegg, the UVSC administrator who signed the contract, said Moore's $40,000 speaking fee and $10,500 travel costs are two separate expenses. Because the two fees are separate, Clegg said, the contract did not violate the student constitution. And in the end, the point is moot, Clegg said, because after ticket sales, Moore's speech will cost the school $15,000 to $20,000."

This dishonest POS should be fired.
13 posted on 10/05/2004 7:32:48 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

I'm guessing Pizza Hut and Micky D's will see some if not most of that 10.5K in "travel costs" while Moore has beached himself above the high tide mark in Utah.


14 posted on 10/05/2004 7:39:23 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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