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Did Kerry Violate Debate Rules By Using Cheat Sheet?
Mensnewsdaily.com ^ | October 3, 2004

Posted on 10/03/2004 6:13:37 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776

Democratic Presidential Candidate John Kerry may have violated the rules governing last Thursday's presidential debate.

According to Section 5 (pps 4 and 5) of the Memorandum of Understanding that was negotiated and agreed upon by both the Bush and Kerry campaigns:

(c) No props, notes, charts, diagrams, or other writings or other tangible things may be brought into the debate by either candidate. ...

(d) Notwithstanding subparagraph 5(c), the candidates may take notes during the debate on the size, color and type of paper each side prefers. Each candidate must submit to the staff of the Commission prior to the debate all such paper and any pens or pencils with which a candidate may wish to take notes during the debate, and the staff or commission will place such paper, pens and pencils on the podium, table or other structure to be used by the candidate in that debate.

On Sunday, INDC Journal and Daily Recycler produced a video and close-up stills showing that Senator Kerry apparently violated the rules signed by his campaign.

The video shows Kerry pulling what looks like crib notes from his jacket and placing them on his lectern at the start of the debate.

The website zombietime.com has posted a frame-by-frame view of the event here.

Use of crib notes during the debate would constitute a material breach of Memorandum of Understanding, though it is unclear if Kerry would be sanctioned.

(Excerpt) Read more at mensnewsdaily.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cheater; firstdebate; kerry
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To: zeebee

I'm sorry. I don't understand.


121 posted on 10/03/2004 7:30:35 PM PDT by pharmamom
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To: AmericanMade1776

Need one zoomed in. I could do it in the dorm room with Photoshop, but am 45 miles away at home.


122 posted on 10/03/2004 7:30:38 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: AmericanMade1776

Absolutely!

Cheating Kerry gate!


123 posted on 10/03/2004 7:30:41 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: USA_Soccer

I'm bringing Holy Water with me when I go....but, what's a good dem spot to just sit back and listen to their take on Kerry's cheating?


124 posted on 10/03/2004 7:31:29 PM PDT by processing please hold
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To: An American!

Good question for FoxNews Channel.....................


125 posted on 10/03/2004 7:31:52 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: pharmamom

People are missing the point here. It doesn't matter WHAT it was. If he took ANYTHING.....ANYTHING...out of his pocket, it is a violation of the rules. You could only use what they provided you, even when it came to pens.


126 posted on 10/03/2004 7:32:17 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (BYPASS FORCED WEB REGISTRATION! **** http://www.bugmenot.com ****)
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To: soozla

Is that really true??! The NY Times??? Then there has to be 'evidence'. They wouldn't put this front page unless they found something.

Or is this Hillary's 'October surprise' for Kerry. Et tu, Brute?


127 posted on 10/03/2004 7:32:32 PM PDT by plushaye (President Bush - Four more years! Thanks Swifties.)
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To: AmericanMade1776

Computers were also stolen at Washington state GOP headquarters.


128 posted on 10/03/2004 7:33:10 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Tragically Single

Ping


129 posted on 10/03/2004 7:33:27 PM PDT by tuliptree76 (I need a tagline. Any suggestions?)
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To: AmericanMade1776

130 posted on 10/03/2004 7:33:34 PM PDT by Boazo
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To: wtc911

I think Kerry is a south paw.


131 posted on 10/03/2004 7:34:05 PM PDT by processing please hold
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To: GarySpFc

Hmmm. No. A democrat is just someone who has turned off his frontal lobe and operates only from his limbic system. All he can do is feel. And because he is operating from reptile-brain, he does whatever it takes to get what he wants. Somewhat like my dog. A sociopath has no conscience or ability to see others as subjects, only as objects to be manipulated.


132 posted on 10/03/2004 7:35:02 PM PDT by pharmamom
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To: boop

Whether Bush cheated too...

There does seem to be something that doesn't look like handwriting on Bush's paper. But the columns are too narrow. I think it's shadows from the mike and his hand. Also, look at the bar-like pattern on the left edge of the paper. It seems to stretch off the paper onto the yellow wood, wood that almost looks as white as the paper due to the studio lights and angles.

I think it's funny shadows. And Bush is not "smooth" like Kerry to pull off something like that!


133 posted on 10/03/2004 7:35:04 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: AmericanMade1776
Did Kerry Violate Debate Rules By Using Cheat Sheet?

How else was Kerry expected to remember the answers to the questions?

134 posted on 10/03/2004 7:37:17 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Mr Rogers

Bush "spoke from his heart"...just not very well.

:)

Anyway, from people I've talked too, they thought Kerry "won", but caught on to how he didn't answer Lehrer's requests for "specifics."


135 posted on 10/03/2004 7:37:29 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: supercat
The purpose of the "debates" is to show how candidates can do without such aids.

That may be, but it's a silly purpose. I don't care whether a candidate can memorize numbers and stats. In real life, he'll be surrounded by advisors. Reagan was famous for delegating, and he did great.

If someone brings a crib-sheet to an SAT, they will be forbidden from taking the test at that time,

Well, SATs test knowledge. The purpose of these presidential "debates" is not to "win" the debate, but to allow us to hear the candidate's policy positions, and perhaps discern their character, then compare them side-to-side.

These "debates" are so anal-retentive, so constricted and controlled, their purpose seems to be to hide the candidate, to prevent the candidate from making any slip-ups or allowing us to see the real person.

Is it clear that Kerry cheated? If so, I expect it will be all over talk radio and Fox News. I wonder if the undecideds and moderates will care?

136 posted on 10/03/2004 7:37:48 PM PDT by Commie Basher
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To: boop

The photo at #73 is better.


137 posted on 10/03/2004 7:38:04 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: marineguy

That's the best question I have heard asked today?


138 posted on 10/03/2004 7:38:44 PM PDT by processing please hold
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To: AmericanMade1776

From what I know of the venerated Jim Lehrer, it wouldn't surprise me to find out Kerry not only had crib notes, but that he had the questions before hand too!


139 posted on 10/03/2004 7:38:46 PM PDT by BB2
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To: pharmamom
What's a little confusing, though, is that if you watch Bush instead of Kerry, he appears to be unfolding something at the podium. It doesn't look like he took it out of his pocket, but it's more than just resting his hands on the lectern...

Tarpon - from Florida?

Earlier thread - Verified Bush picked up a pen, and removed the cap from it.

Oh, and welcome to FR...
140 posted on 10/03/2004 7:38:56 PM PDT by NonLinear ("I actually intended to vote for Kerry, before I voted against him.")
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