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Did Kerry Violate Debate Rules By Using Cheat Sheet?
Mensnewsdaily.com ^ | October 3, 2004

Posted on 10/03/2004 6:13:37 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776

Democratic Presidential Candidate John Kerry may have violated the rules governing last Thursday's presidential debate.

According to Section 5 (pps 4 and 5) of the Memorandum of Understanding that was negotiated and agreed upon by both the Bush and Kerry campaigns:

(c) No props, notes, charts, diagrams, or other writings or other tangible things may be brought into the debate by either candidate. ...

(d) Notwithstanding subparagraph 5(c), the candidates may take notes during the debate on the size, color and type of paper each side prefers. Each candidate must submit to the staff of the Commission prior to the debate all such paper and any pens or pencils with which a candidate may wish to take notes during the debate, and the staff or commission will place such paper, pens and pencils on the podium, table or other structure to be used by the candidate in that debate.

On Sunday, INDC Journal and Daily Recycler produced a video and close-up stills showing that Senator Kerry apparently violated the rules signed by his campaign.

The video shows Kerry pulling what looks like crib notes from his jacket and placing them on his lectern at the start of the debate.

The website zombietime.com has posted a frame-by-frame view of the event here.

Use of crib notes during the debate would constitute a material breach of Memorandum of Understanding, though it is unclear if Kerry would be sanctioned.

(Excerpt) Read more at mensnewsdaily.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cheater; firstdebate; kerry
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To: pharmamom

It is crystal clear in digital frame by frame slow motion that Kerry took something about the size of index cards, from jacket his pocket, placed it on the lectern and took a few seconds sorting or positioning whatever it was. You couldn't tell exactly what it was he took out of his pocket, or precisely what he was doing with it. It was white colored, could have even been a palm pilot and he could have been turning it on and setting it up. Just couldn't tell.


81 posted on 10/03/2004 6:54:13 PM PDT by Tarpon
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To: Americanchild

Zell did not need any cheat notes to speak from his core convictions, Kerry on the other hand has none.


82 posted on 10/03/2004 6:54:20 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ((John Kerry is now in full retreat))
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To: areafiftyone

83 posted on 10/03/2004 6:55:05 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Democrats = the hamster is dead but the wheel is still spinning)
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To: Tom602

Agree with the lies and insults. But if you watched it, Kerry won on points. No denying, Bush didn't look good. If you read the transcript, the facts are clear.


84 posted on 10/03/2004 6:55:52 PM PDT by Tarpon
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To: ClaireSolt
Lie enough and you will beleive them.

What if he only got the questions 1/2 hour prior to the debate.

Not enough time to do by one person, but a group working quickly on different questions, yet without time to check all? Insuring continuity of thought and positions?

85 posted on 10/03/2004 6:56:14 PM PDT by highpockets
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To: ClaireSolt

no, but his stock "pre-prepared" answers and themes were probably there...e.g. "wrong about $87 billion, but what's worse" etc.


86 posted on 10/03/2004 6:56:24 PM PDT by eagle3
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To: pharmamom

Troll alert!


87 posted on 10/03/2004 6:56:24 PM PDT by zeebee (John Kerry- whichever way the wind blows)
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To: All
According to the Swifties, Kerry cheated with superficial wounds to get out of the boat ASAP, and back to the USA.

This is cheating.

I you are caught in school cheating during an exam, you will not pass that exam, so why should we be believe Kerry?

Imagine what Americans are going to say if this turns out to be true. If he is cheating here, he will also try to cheat us when at the Big House.

88 posted on 10/03/2004 6:56:42 PM PDT by crushelits
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To: Our man in washington

I know I am not suprised that Kerry would cheat in the debate. Just surprised at how sloppy he is at cheating. Kerry is kind of a senile ol cheater.


89 posted on 10/03/2004 6:56:58 PM PDT by AmericanMade1776 ((John Kerry is now in full retreat))
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To: AmericanMade1776
(c) No props, notes, charts, diagrams, or other writings or other tangible things may be brought into the debate by either candidate. ...

Well that's a lousy rule. Charts and diagrams are helpful in explaining things. The politicos (including Bush) who created these debate rules obviously want to keep Americans dummied down.

We should have Lincoln-Douglass style debates, wherein each candidate can alternate speaking for up to a half hour, walking around the stage, using notes. And we should have these debates once a week for several months on end. That would force all candidates to show us who they are.

But that's not what these anal-retentive politicos -- including Bush -- want.

Yet another reason to vote third party.

90 posted on 10/03/2004 6:58:22 PM PDT by Commie Basher
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To: Tarpon

"But if you watched it, Kerry won on points."

No, sKerry won STYLE points President Bush won on ISSUE points (if you listen to it) Not read it or watch it. I would like to stand you in front of 2 hostile interrogators with an entire nation WATCHING you and see how you handle YOURSELF! I tend to think that Bush was taken off guard and agitated by being insulted by sKerry.

I could hear Bush's agitation and quite fankley, could empathize with him.


91 posted on 10/03/2004 7:01:43 PM PDT by Tom602 (I suffer from tourette's syndrome every time I hear democrats or the MSM speak!)
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To: zeebee

It looks to me as if Bush has some pretty serious body armor under that suit jacket. Look at the ridge near the shoulder line. It is pushing his jacket up, kind of.

Do you suppose that is why Bush appeared to be so uncomforatble during the debate? My husband said that Bush seemed preoccupied, as if he had been told something that was distracting him. A death threat, perhaps, requiring the need to put on the bullet proof armor?


92 posted on 10/03/2004 7:03:23 PM PDT by jacquej
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To: highpockets
Hillary got the questions in advance before she appeared on David Letterman's show during the 2000 campaign (allowing her to appear to be very knowledgeable about N.Y. state), so it's only fair for Kerry to get the questions in advance too.

Didn't Lenin say, "Promises are like pie crusts--made to be broken?" The Kerry people have a perfect rebuttal: sure, we promised that our guy would not bring any notes, but the Bush people were fools if they expected us to keep the promise.

93 posted on 10/03/2004 7:03:27 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: areafiftyone

That is NOT a hankerchief, as some have suggested. Too stiff and even for a cloth border.

FOX cameras have the key film from various angles, including some not telecast. Fox needs to analyze the footage asap.


94 posted on 10/03/2004 7:03:35 PM PDT by plushaye (President Bush - Four more years! Thanks Swifties.)
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To: AmericanMade1776

Kerry Receives Paper Cut at Debate Pulling Out Note Cards....Applies For PURPLE HEART!


95 posted on 10/03/2004 7:06:20 PM PDT by paul in cape
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To: pharmamom; admin; TexasGreg
What's a little confusing, though, is that if you watch Bush instead of Kerry, he appears to be unfolding something at the podium. It doesn't look like he took it out of his pocket, but it's more than just resting his hands on the lectern...

I'm glad to see another Republican. Don't you agree the majority of Democrats are sociopaths? I see you just registered today.
96 posted on 10/03/2004 7:06:24 PM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: plushaye

Why would anyone put a handkerchief on a lectern? And then manipulate it?

No. That's not gonna fly.


97 posted on 10/03/2004 7:09:14 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat
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To: Tarpon
HOWEVER, it is likely a mistake to focus on this. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. Time to buck up and move on. Plenty of time left to get back ground lost. Let's roll.

I don't agree that this doesn't warrant focus. In itself, it might not carry a great deal of weight, but as a piece of evidence concerning Kerry's character and fitness for the Presidency, it speaks volumes. It needs to get out. No, we don't need to dwell on it continuously until election day, but it does need to be made public. We here at FR already know that Kerry is of poor character (to say the least). The hard-core left does as well, but they don't care. Its that group in the middle that needs to see this.

98 posted on 10/03/2004 7:09:23 PM PDT by meyer (Proud member of the Pajamarazzi!)
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To: Clara Lou
"I hope to see the Kerry campaign squirming by tomorrow."

They should be squirming now. . .and no doubt are working on their 'spin and attack assault mode plan' to deflect the truth of the Kerry - the liar/cheater. . .back onto George Bush. (Good luck guys! - maybe wishful thinking; but think you are closer to running out of it.)

99 posted on 10/03/2004 7:10:25 PM PDT by cricket (Don't lose your head. . vote Republican. . .)
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To: areafiftyone
Okay what he has in his hand is NOT a pen or eyeglasses. It is square. The top straight horizontal edge is parallel with the top of the picture border. And the right and left edges are paralled to the right and left picture borders. It could be stiff note cards rather than flimsly paper because it appears that his four fingers are curled around the front of the notes and his thumb is curled around the back.

It is apparent. He has SOMETHING white and square in his hand. There can be no doubt about that.

100 posted on 10/03/2004 7:10:28 PM PDT by DestroytheDemocrats
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