Posted on 10/03/2004 6:45:49 AM PDT by timbuck2
October 3, 2004 Sunday SECTION: MAIN NEWS; National Desk; Part A; Pg. 1 LENGTH: 1414 words HEADLINE: THE RACE FOR THE WHITE HOUSE; THE TIMES POLL; Viewers Give Round 1 to Kerry; Most who watched Thursday's debate say it added to the Democratic candidate's luster, but not at the expense of Bush's standing. BYLINE: Ronald Brownstein and Kathleen Hennessey, Times Staff Writers DATELINE: WASHINGTON
...These survey results reflect attitudes only among registered voters who watched the debate. Their views are more apt to change than the views among voters overall, many of whom did not watch the debate.
The poll, conducted Thursday night and Friday, surveyed 1,368 registered voters who participated in a Times survey last week and agreed to be contacted after the Sept. 30 debate. Among the group, 725 voters said they had watched the debate; it is their responses the poll reports. The poll, supervised by polling director Susan Pinkus, has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 4 percentage points.
The voters who watched the debate were slightly more favorable to Kerry than the overall electorate even before the encounter began, the poll showed.
For instance, in last week's Times poll, Kerry trailed Bush among all registered voters by 49% to 45%. But the voters who watched the matchup preferred Kerry by 48% to 47% for Bush before the debate. After the debate, viewers divided nearly the same way, with 49% favoring Kerry, 47% Bush.
That tracks with other post-debate polls showing improvements in Kerry's image but generally little immediate change in the race. The exception is a Newsweek poll conducted Thursday night through Saturday that showed Kerry leading Bush 49% to 46% among registered voters, with a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points...
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Why all the hysteria?
-T
Amazing that they are not giving us the LIKELY voters, isn't it?
Because the bad guys now have the big mo.
Time to donate to the swift boat vets again.
Exactly. They are also not telling us that Kerry is in big trouble with women - moms in particular.
'But the voters who watched the matchup preferred Kerry by 48% to 47% for Bush before the debate. '
seems to belie the headlines - 700+ pre-prejudiced poll-ees....
Publisher & Editor ^ | September 26, 2004: L.A. Times May Break Tradition, Make Choice for President
all i know is just because PRINCE POPINJAY the SKERRYCROW didn't look down his long nose at people for the first time in his life doesn't mean he actually HAS A PLAN other than TRAINING people faster to get out of iraq....it is AMAZING to me that the dems' primary focus points are always based on HINDSIGHT.
Bush has improved his "likeability" numbers by a point since the debate. sKerry went down by 1. Newsweek will do everything possible to try and persuade voters. Probably polled only non-english speaking French-Canandian registered Socialists.
I don't think they really have mo. Bush's presentation of the Kerry Doctrine of a global test that persuades the world before preemption is acceptable is killing Kerry as we speak.
It boils down to this:
Before the debate registered voters in LA Times sample preferred Kerry by one point (48% to 47%) while after they preferred Kerry by two points (49% to 47%). This is the cause of euphoria on the left?
Question: How many of the registered voters in the sample will actually turn out to vote? Is it not true that only half of all registered voters bother to go to the polls on election day? What does this tell you about the validity of polls that rely on registered voters?
I predict Bush by an average of 5% among likely voters in Monday's polls.
-T
Hmmm... not much of a gain - and we've yet to see the impact of John F*ckin's "global test" gaffe reflected in the polls. Have faith, people. Its not over yet.
Amazing ... MSN has a headline that reads "Kerry pulls even with Bush." I thought I was supposed to panic now.
Is it just me or is the LA Times story deliberately confusing?? They keep reporting on Kerry's slight gain among people who watched the debate. But where is their overall poll of who people are going to vote for? That should be the bottom line and I don't see those numbers getting highlighted, if at all. Sounds as if they are trying to cover up something.
So glad FR is back. I was lost without it. ;-) Was it down for maintenance?
LOL at the thread title.
In fact, didn't the Kerry camp come out with an ad right off the bat addressing this . . . If that's the case, they must be afraid about this and realize what a disaster this "global test" remark can become.
Don't forget the SNL skit of Campaign Kerry last night. It was funny as it was devastating. <imitating Kerry I aaaaaaaaam foragainst <fill in the blanks... (laughing)
I think they have mo, but it is up to us to wrestle it back from the rats. At least now we have no reason to be complacent.
There is no doubt in my mind that the President is right on the issues. We all have to make sure that the issues are well defined.
The Swift Boat Vets are the only ones who are willing to take of the gloves and tell the truth about Kerry.
"They are also not telling us that Kerry is in big trouble with women - moms in particular."
Well, he was in big trouble with women. I hope he still is in trouble, but I am not so sure that Kerry is still in trouble with women.
"But where is their overall poll of who people are going to vote for?"
49% to 47% among registered voters. Before the debate the LA Times sample was 48% to 47%.
You're right, the most meaningful statistic is buried, but it is there.
-T
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