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My Checking Account Was Hacked or Hijacked, Need Help

Posted on 09/25/2004 8:46:25 AM PDT by John Robertson

What is "net angels," or www.netangel.com?


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KEYWORDS: checkingaccount; hacked; unauthorized
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To: John Robertson

One more thing, CLOSE THE ACCOUNT! This type of fraud can be based on account number. If they have that, they can keep doing this over and over. I'm surprised your bank didn't force you to do this.


21 posted on 09/25/2004 9:00:30 AM PDT by al_again
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To: al_again

Great suggestions, folks. I will act on them accordingly. And great instruction and insight.

I had a thought that it might not be as odious as someone actually "hacking" my system...they might have just gotten ahold of the number from a previous purchase somewhere, and used it. In other words, simple direct bold theft, nothing as daring as hacking me.


22 posted on 09/25/2004 9:00:45 AM PDT by John Robertson
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To: BlessedBeGod
I thought England used URLs ending in .uk?
23 posted on 09/25/2004 9:02:40 AM PDT by The_Victor
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To: John Robertson

I bought a coat once at Neiman Marcus and the sales clerk used my charge number to buy over 400.00 worth of stuff from Victorias Secret. I didn't even know until VS security sent me a post card telling me to call them something looked evil. Thats when I decided to set up seperate account.


24 posted on 09/25/2004 9:05:49 AM PDT by finallyatexan
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To: John Robertson
A few years ago, an charge to an ISP in Russia showed up on my credit card. It was only around $15.00 but it wasn't mine. I filed a protest with the card and they credited the amount back to my account. They did delete my old card (to avoid any future charges) and re-issue me a new card with a different number.

Just recently I had a double transaction show up for an Internet purchase. For some reason, the same transaction number showed up twice, thus double billing my card. I notified the card co. They discredited both charges and told me they would wait until the charge came through again. It did, single billing, so I paid it. No further double billings have shown up on that card. It must have been a software error for it to have the same transaction number.

With Internet, you can check most accounts almost immediately. I can use my card at Walmart, for example, and the charge shows up on my cc account by the time I get home and log into the account.
25 posted on 09/25/2004 9:06:24 AM PDT by TomGuy (His VN crumbling, he says 'move on'. So now, John Kerry is running on Bob KerrEy's Senate record.)
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To: John Robertson

Ummm. lemme guess. You're using MicroSoft Internet Explorer and NO firewall software. Am I right?


26 posted on 09/25/2004 9:06:44 AM PDT by Musket
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To: The_Victor

That occurred to me, too (uk vs. gb)--


27 posted on 09/25/2004 9:08:46 AM PDT by Mamzelle (Pajamamama)
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To: Lazamataz
Aw hell. I just noticed: Wrong John.

Ha ha ha ha ...

28 posted on 09/25/2004 9:09:59 AM PDT by _Jim (s <--- Ann C. and Rush L. speak on gutless Liberals (RealAudio files))
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To: al_again

"CLOSE THE ACCOUNT!...I'm surprised your bank didn't force you to do this."

I'm surprised about that too. I had to do that when my purse was stolen with my check book in it. I had problems for years after that, literally. Not insurmountable problems, but really annoying, time wasting, agravation producing problems.


29 posted on 09/25/2004 9:11:18 AM PDT by jocon307 (Ann Coulter was right)
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To: John Robertson
This incident happened years ago.

I was working in a bank with a girl from the Phillipines. She sent $10.00 to a relative back home. The relative got the envelope the money was sent in, but no check. She assumed someone in the postal department back home had ripped it off.

Because all employee checking accounts were routed through the personnel department, anything unusual was flagged upstairs. One day, the personnel department got a letter from someone claiming to be this employee, requesting the liquidation of the checking account of this employee and the funds be sent to "her" somewhere in Asia. I think it was Hong Kong. the letter was signed with a pretty good imitation of my coworker's signature.

30 posted on 09/25/2004 9:11:42 AM PDT by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch
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To: _Jim
Ha ha ha ha ...


31 posted on 09/25/2004 9:11:52 AM PDT by Lazamataz ("Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown" -- harpseal)
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To: Musket

Yes to IE. I have the firewall in XP 2 upgrade, Norton activated, Spyware and Adaware. Tell me what I'm missing. I used to run Zone Alarm but it was in conflict with something, and made my system crash. I may have to reconsider it, and figure out a way to make it work.

Please remember that my instinct is that someone physically lifted the debit card number (as opposed to the bank account number) and made the purchase that way. But, it's just instinct, time will tell. Thanks.


32 posted on 09/25/2004 9:15:25 AM PDT by John Robertson
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To: The_Victor

I thought so, too, until I looked it up. They use both.


http://ada.lesley.edu/faculty/shiggins/Suffixes.htm


33 posted on 09/25/2004 9:17:16 AM PDT by BlessedBeGod
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To: John Robertson

Someone hacked your browser or worse. You should assume that all the info on your computer was compromised.


34 posted on 09/25/2004 9:20:01 AM PDT by I got the rope
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To: John Robertson
Couple of possibilities..

Google search for Netangels came up with several sites, both uk, au, nz..
Also, an article about company called "firefly" that bought an information gathering system called "netangels"...
Firefly uses such info to configure ads for such companies as YAHOO..

If you search for 2 words, i.e., "net angels", you get tons of hits, due to the seperate "angels" in the search parameters.. just too much to browse through..

35 posted on 09/25/2004 9:23:57 AM PDT by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: John Robertson

Look up stuff here

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36 posted on 09/25/2004 9:24:07 AM PDT by Fzob (Why does this tag line keep showing up?)
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To: sinkspur; John Robertson
"I installed Zone Alarm Pro and have never had a problem since."

Zone Alarm proved a bit cumbersome to me.

I use Black Ice, and I like it.

37 posted on 09/25/2004 9:29:29 AM PDT by TexasCowboy (BUBBA)
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To: FormerACLUmember

I'm wondering why a transaction like that wouldn't trigger a money laundering alert. Big for me now since I just took training yesterday on the Patriot Act and Money Laundering. Should have set off alarms.


38 posted on 09/25/2004 9:33:05 AM PDT by BunnySlippers ("F" Stands for FLIP-FLOP ...)
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To: TexasCowboy
I use Black Ice, and I like it.

Steve Gibson says Black Ice is crap. Check his site for more info.

39 posted on 09/25/2004 9:37:48 AM PDT by Musket
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To: John Robertson

bump


40 posted on 09/25/2004 9:40:10 AM PDT by OldCorps
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