Posted on 09/25/2004 8:46:25 AM PDT by John Robertson
What is "net angels," or www.netangel.com?
One more thing, CLOSE THE ACCOUNT! This type of fraud can be based on account number. If they have that, they can keep doing this over and over. I'm surprised your bank didn't force you to do this.
Great suggestions, folks. I will act on them accordingly. And great instruction and insight.
I had a thought that it might not be as odious as someone actually "hacking" my system...they might have just gotten ahold of the number from a previous purchase somewhere, and used it. In other words, simple direct bold theft, nothing as daring as hacking me.
I bought a coat once at Neiman Marcus and the sales clerk used my charge number to buy over 400.00 worth of stuff from Victorias Secret. I didn't even know until VS security sent me a post card telling me to call them something looked evil. Thats when I decided to set up seperate account.
Ummm. lemme guess. You're using MicroSoft Internet Explorer and NO firewall software. Am I right?
That occurred to me, too (uk vs. gb)--
Ha ha ha ha ...
"CLOSE THE ACCOUNT!...I'm surprised your bank didn't force you to do this."
I'm surprised about that too. I had to do that when my purse was stolen with my check book in it. I had problems for years after that, literally. Not insurmountable problems, but really annoying, time wasting, agravation producing problems.
I was working in a bank with a girl from the Phillipines. She sent $10.00 to a relative back home. The relative got the envelope the money was sent in, but no check. She assumed someone in the postal department back home had ripped it off.
Because all employee checking accounts were routed through the personnel department, anything unusual was flagged upstairs. One day, the personnel department got a letter from someone claiming to be this employee, requesting the liquidation of the checking account of this employee and the funds be sent to "her" somewhere in Asia. I think it was Hong Kong. the letter was signed with a pretty good imitation of my coworker's signature.
Yes to IE. I have the firewall in XP 2 upgrade, Norton activated, Spyware and Adaware. Tell me what I'm missing. I used to run Zone Alarm but it was in conflict with something, and made my system crash. I may have to reconsider it, and figure out a way to make it work.
Please remember that my instinct is that someone physically lifted the debit card number (as opposed to the bank account number) and made the purchase that way. But, it's just instinct, time will tell. Thanks.
I thought so, too, until I looked it up. They use both.
http://ada.lesley.edu/faculty/shiggins/Suffixes.htm
Someone hacked your browser or worse. You should assume that all the info on your computer was compromised.
Google search for Netangels came up with several sites, both uk, au, nz..
Also, an article about company called "firefly" that bought an information gathering system called "netangels"...
Firefly uses such info to configure ads for such companies as YAHOO..
If you search for 2 words, i.e., "net angels", you get tons of hits, due to the seperate "angels" in the search parameters.. just too much to browse through..
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Zone Alarm proved a bit cumbersome to me.
I use Black Ice, and I like it.
I'm wondering why a transaction like that wouldn't trigger a money laundering alert. Big for me now since I just took training yesterday on the Patriot Act and Money Laundering. Should have set off alarms.
Steve Gibson says Black Ice is crap. Check his site for more info.
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