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Catholic leadership denies access to liberal church group
Associated Press ^ | Thursday September 16

Posted on 09/16/2004 1:02:10 PM PDT by presidio9

A leader of Australia's Roman Catholic church has barred a group of liberal followers from using a church venue to hold a conference at which a gay rights activist was to speak.

Cardinal George Pell, who has refused to give communion to gays and once called homosexuality "a greater health hazard than smoking," said it would be unsuitable for the liberal Australian Reforming Catholics group to meet on church property.

It was not immediately clear what the gay activist planned to speak about.

Pell also forbade liberal Bishop Pat Power from celebrating Mass at the event, which has been moved to a private venue in Sydney and will be held next month, and ordered two priests not to attend.

"I think it is really unfortunate because in many ways we're limiting what it means to be a Catholic and I think more and more people are being excluded from the life of the church," Power told the Australian Broadcasting Corp. radio.

Pell, who made Cardinal in 2003, has been a lightning rod for controversy since being appointed Sydney's archbishop in May 2001.


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Culture/Society; Extended News
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Cardinal George Pell, who has refused to give communion to gays and once called homosexuality "a greater health hazard than smoking,"

Cadinal Pell for Pope!!!

1 posted on 09/16/2004 1:02:11 PM PDT by presidio9
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What? He thinks the Church actually has authority over its own property? What audacity!!! /sarcasm off


2 posted on 09/16/2004 1:06:40 PM PDT by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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Cadinal Pell for Pope!!!

I wish.

He is the only person who handled the sodomy crisis correctly.

He booted the priests involved and then, when he continued to condemn sodomy in general, he was falsely accused of sexual abuse.

When this happened, he stood down from his see and ordered an independent police investigation of the charges against him.

After the police soon determined that the allegations were complete hogwash, he returned to his see and continued hammering the faggots from the pulpit.

He's gold.

3 posted on 09/16/2004 1:08:33 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: presidio9

Good for them...Glad to see that some churches are still standing on Biblical standards.


4 posted on 09/16/2004 1:10:22 PM PDT by Blue Scourge (Off I go into the Wild Blue Yonder...)
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To: presidio9

I wish that the American Catholic bishops would petition the Pope to censure (excommunicate) John Kerry. The main reason would be his abortion stand.


5 posted on 09/16/2004 1:10:40 PM PDT by tomnbeverly (Do not let the UN make decisions for the protection of the United States... VOTE for George W. Bush)
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To: wideawake; Coleus; NYer

Saying a prayer for the continued health, strength and tanacity of Cardinal George Pell now...


6 posted on 09/16/2004 1:13:41 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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Cardinal George Pell, who has refused to give communion to gays and once called homosexuality "a greater health hazard than smoking.

A study in Ontario indicates that a sexually active homosexual male will lose between 8 years and 20 years of his life expectancy. The CDC says the average smoker loses 12 or 13 years of his or her life expectancy; heavy smokers (2 packs/day) lose 20 years.

7 posted on 09/16/2004 1:39:32 PM PDT by megatherium
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Cadinal Pell for Pope!!!
Cardinal Keeler for Anti-Pope!!!
8 posted on 09/16/2004 1:40:56 PM PDT by eastsider
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The average life expectancy of a gay American man is 42 years. The average life expectancy of all Somalians is 50.


9 posted on 09/16/2004 1:41:30 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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Cardinal Keeler for Anti-Pope!!!

Wait a minute: They have that?

10 posted on 09/16/2004 1:42:24 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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To: presidio9; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; ...
Cardinal Pell on "The Passion"   Homilies

Pell challenged to debate about homosexuality     Pell explains no reply to lesbian cousin

Priest dares to call Cardinal Pell inflexible  Archbishop George Pell: 'The strong family is a religious family'

Cardinal Pell is one of the good ones. 

11 posted on 09/16/2004 1:45:39 PM PDT by Coleus (L'Shana Tova, May your name be Inscribed)
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An Aussie Pope? Gotta admit that would be novel.


12 posted on 09/16/2004 1:50:58 PM PDT by xp38
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To: Coleus

Archbishop Pell


13 posted on 09/16/2004 1:54:08 PM PDT by presidio9 (Islam is as Islam does)
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Wait a minute: They have that?
Not only do they have that, but the very first antipope, Hippolytus of Rome, is a canonized saint ...
14 posted on 09/16/2004 2:07:37 PM PDT by eastsider (Taking cover ...)
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Cardinal George Pell

Dr George Pell is President of the John Paul II Institute for Marriage and Family in Melbourne, Australia. Working in conjunction with the John Paul II Pontifical Institute for Studies of Marriage and the Family around the world and with the University of Notre Dame in Perth, the Melbourne Institute will provide theological and pastoral training for priests and religious, teachers, catechists, pastoral workers, nurses and physicians, and lay people interested in deepening their understanding of the issues touching marriage, family and the culture of life in our world today.

Unfortunately, a lesbian former nun who is a second cousin of Cardinal George Pell has publicly challenged him over the Catholic Church's hardline stance against homosexuality.


"In the letter Ms Hingston challenged Dr Pell to look her in the eye and call her "corrupt, debased, vicious, vile, wicked, degenerate" - words she says are synonyms for depraved.

"To read that the Vatican has declared us to be 'seriously depraved persons' has appalled and angered me," she wrote."

No doubt, Cardinal Pell has his own personal cross to carry.

Catholic Ping - let me know if you want on/off this list


15 posted on 09/16/2004 4:29:50 PM PDT by NYer (When you have done something good, remember the words "without Me you can do nothing." (John 15:5).)
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To: megatherium

That would make the average lifespan of a heavy smoking sodomite about 35 years then.


16 posted on 09/16/2004 4:33:54 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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To: presidio9

I'm glad someone is taking a stand. This isn't just some antiquated patriarchy's rulings, God Himself declared that is was a sin.


17 posted on 09/16/2004 4:44:12 PM PDT by Jaded ((Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on society. - Mark Twain))
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To: presidio9

I'm not a Catholic but to see the Church falling apart saddens me. They could be doing so much good.


18 posted on 09/16/2004 4:51:01 PM PDT by radicalamericannationalist (The Convention convinced me. 4 MORE YEARS!!!!!!)
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A bump for Cardinal Pell.


19 posted on 09/16/2004 4:59:12 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Next time he sees her, he should douse her with Holy Water.


20 posted on 09/16/2004 5:30:17 PM PDT by BlackElk (Ketchupboy delenda est)
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