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What the hell is going on here? Or why is CBS clinging so ferociosly to this lie?
My fertile mind | 08/15/04 | me

Posted on 09/15/2004 8:10:12 PM PDT by Pharmer

I think that it is safe to say that this whole Rathergate/memogate stuff at this point is just out of control. If your ten year old got caught in a fib and continued to behave in this way even the most "progressive" of parents would would have this child have a close encounter with a razor strap. So why is CBS carrying on this way? I have heard many intresting theories posted here, on talk radio, and other places.

So let's review some of them. First we all know that the Swift Boat dudes was a shot in Kerry's solar plexis. It wasn't fatal but it caught him off guard and knocked the wind out of him. Kerry knows that has exposed his glass jaw and the swifties moving in with more even more devastaing blows. We all can aggree the TANG story was resurected for the umpteenth time to clearly to blunt any future efforts.

And if you look at the "suspicious timing" of media events we have:

a) The 60 minutes story Wednesday night producing documents from one of Bush's TANG officers that seem to imply that he had a different opinion of the young leutenant that he told his wife and and son and left a letter of commendation in Bush's personnel file.

b) Terry McAufull and Tom Harkin racing to the microphone Thursday morning to damand Bush answer the charges as to why he failed to show up for a physical as to set up

c) The Kitty Kelly cocaine story and voila!

d) Bush is a coke head just who ducked a physical with a drug test (in 1972! Before Nancy said NO) as we thought back in 2000 but now we have a paper trail!

But as we now know as in the the best laid plans of mice and men, the initial key components the documents were baltant and amatuerish forgeries. This blew the whole plan out of the water faster than a submerged mine blew up the number 3 boat. Just like Kerry did then the MSM ran from this story so fast it wasn't funny. They knew they were sunk, busted and had! I wouldn't be surprised that when all is said and done that whoever the source of these document was may have shopped them around to various media outlets before CBS took the bait. And most of them might have come to the same conclusions it took us "amatuer" Freepers and Buckhead 59 minutes to figure out: these were Cracker Jack Box phonies.

So why after being caught in such a blatant lie is CBS continuing to stand by this story when the scheme has been exposed? Some say arogance. Some say that CBS is covering for its source. I have a sneaking suspicion that more is afoot.

Remember when Richard Ben-Veniste during the 9/11 hearings tried to embarass John Ashcroft by asking him why he stopped flying commercial a month prior to 9/11? or how about when Bush had that press conference last spring and the press repeatedly tried to embarass Bush with stupid questions and get him to "apologize" for Iraq?

Well guess whats comming up? The debates. And who is moderating one of those debates? Bob Schieffer. And who does Bob Schieffer work for...? CBS!!! Don't be surprised if Scheifer askes "Mr president, last month the 60 minutes raise questions based on documents attributed to your former commanding officer in the Texas Air National Guard. To date you have not addressed those questions. Don't you think that tonight you answer those questions for the American people?" No matter what other questions asked in those debates that one will have justified the stonewalling we see now and that I think is the end-game. They want to embarass him with a phony question live and right in front of Kerry. Don't get me wrong, I think he'll handle it fine and with dignity. But knowing the contempt that these guys have for Bush they think this might just do him in.


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1 posted on 09/15/2004 8:10:13 PM PDT by Pharmer
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To: Pharmer
"Never mind the man behind the curtain."
2 posted on 09/15/2004 8:11:27 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: Pharmer

Because they're the newest 527 group?


3 posted on 09/15/2004 8:12:12 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Puppage

Here's a theory (which I don't necessarily back up)...

Terry McCaulif is loyal to the Clintons and he set it up because he wants Kerry to lose so that Hillary will be well positioned for a 2008 run.


4 posted on 09/15/2004 8:15:00 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton
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To: Pharmer

Just look at any of the libs, even on Fox News. Juan Williams and Alan Colmes WANT this story to be true. They don't even want to talk about what CBSnooze and Dan Blather have done. They want to gloss over that and make everyone believe that President Bush is a liar.


5 posted on 09/15/2004 8:16:17 PM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: Pharmer
Nice post. Worth a bump.

You pose some interisting questions but my brain is fried tonight.

This retirement stuff is hell. I work more at home that I did at work.

Let me think about your comments. Might post later because you did such a nice job.

6 posted on 09/15/2004 8:16:45 PM PDT by AGreatPer
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Rather Talks of Questions On Papers

Sing along,Abilene,Abilene..

7 posted on 09/15/2004 8:16:54 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve to keep us free.)
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To: ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton

I subscribe to that theory, or one with a similar outcome....the 2008 opening for Hitlery.


8 posted on 09/15/2004 8:17:13 PM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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Plain and simple. For legal reasons. You see, if and when the documents are proven to be fakes, forgeries, if you will, then c-BS and Dan Rather have to disclose their source(s). Which then opens them up to the charge of illegally influencing a presidential election. ie: watergate. Only in this case its memogate.


9 posted on 09/15/2004 8:18:47 PM PDT by onyx eyes
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cBS is doing Kerry's dirty work. This keeps the Swift Boat Vets on the back burner. cBS is helping John Kerry.
10 posted on 09/15/2004 8:20:03 PM PDT by .cnI redruM (The NYT: We're fake, but we're also inaccurate!)
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As I wrote in another post, this whole thing is giving me flashbacks to when my first child stood in front of me with chocolate smeared all over her face but refused to answer when I asked her if she'd eaten a cookie.

The difference seems to be that my daughter grew up.

Danny, DID YOU EAT THAT COOKIE?

11 posted on 09/15/2004 8:20:22 PM PDT by LTCJ (CBS, all your Boyd Cycles are belong to us.)
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"Razor Strap"??!! Damn....and I thought I came from the only family that used those things!! ROTFLMAO!!


12 posted on 09/15/2004 8:21:13 PM PDT by docman57
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To: Pharmer

People just do that. When challanged, the don't admit it when they're wrong; they just get huffy.

Observe some exchanges on religion forums or usenet newsgroups.


13 posted on 09/15/2004 8:22:30 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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Dan Rather is a guy digging himself 100 feet deeper into a hole he figures he can't get out of. Maybe he saw the movie "Touching the Void"....where the hero manages to live after breaking a leg & falling a crevasse by crawling DOWN towards what could have been an ABYSS!!!!!!

That's what Dan the Man is doing. Trying to survive by digging to China.


14 posted on 09/15/2004 8:22:43 PM PDT by nerdgirl
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It's not going to work...buy the time the debates come around Bush has relesed ALL his paperwork..

He just says " I have signed my 180 and released all my paperework for the record....why doesn't John F'n "flip-flop fop" Kerry do the same....what's he hiding....?

15 posted on 09/15/2004 8:22:59 PM PDT by spokeshave (Traitor Kerry did for free what the POWs received torture to make them say)
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They defend the lie because everything they do is a lie. Their audience has accepted lies for years, people have used the media as an instructor...as a surrogate for reason.

If you discovered that your 8th grade algebra teacher was making it up as she went, even once, you wouldn't be able to take instruction from her anymore.

They can't lose the unconditional trust because that trust is their mission.

You would have liberals jumping out of windows everywhere if Rather came clean...their instruction is their grounding.
16 posted on 09/15/2004 8:23:32 PM PDT by Jim_Curtis (Liberals lie at the premise, accept their premise and you can only lose the argument.)
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To: Pharmer

Good question. All I can figure is that there is a whole lot more in the way of "questionable" accusations to come. As it is now, I have to wash my hands anytime I touch the TV or newspaper.


17 posted on 09/15/2004 8:24:05 PM PDT by JimSEA ( "More Bush, Less Taxes.")
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We'll just have to see whether Kerry's still breathing by the time the Swifties are through with him. If it comes out that he got a dishonorable discharge, and he should have, he'll have a very hard time remaining on the ticket.


18 posted on 09/15/2004 8:24:27 PM PDT by hershey
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To: Pharmer

Its simple, Dan Rather is an egomaniac and CBS stands to lose tens of millions of dollars. How's that for motive?


19 posted on 09/15/2004 8:24:50 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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If CBS is so all-fired sure that the Bush National Guard documents are genuine, why don't they put the typeface/proportional spacing issue to rest forever by producting one of these 1970s-era Selectric typewriters and exactly reproduce the font, spacing, superscript and all that goes with it. The fact that they haven't produced such a typewriter makes me feel there never was a Selectric that could do all that (and no doubt make coffee too). I mean if you have a moose in the bedroom and someone keeps saying there's no such moose, why not open the door and bring it out?


20 posted on 09/15/2004 8:25:15 PM PDT by ElkCounty
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