Posted on 09/10/2004 7:06:51 PM PDT by ambrose
Can any Houston-area Freepers see if PO Box 34567 even exists at the post office for zip code 77034?
The address for the Genoa post office is 10935 Almeda Genoa Rd, Houston, TX 77034. The phone number is 713-946-5077.
It seems like this would be an easy thing to determine. How many post offices have in excess of 34000 post office boxes?
There's a new bostonherald story out that has these paragarphs in this order. LOL
Meanwhile, Democratic Party Chairman Terry McAuliffe charged, ``It has come crystal clear that the president has lied to the American public about his military service.'' But McAuliffe also suggested that Republicans could have put out false documents to embarrass Democrats.
``I can tell you that nobody at the Democratic National Committee or groups associated with us were involved in any way with these documents,'' he said. ``I'm just saying that I would ask Karl Rove the same question.''
Clearly the MSM is looking to go after one if its own. They quotes they used for Rather were NOT flattering. This has legs.
Oboy. The fit has hit the shan.
and the honey just keeps flowing ....
BUT - it is listed as the Address for the 147th Fighter Interceptor Group not the 111th FIS. Also every other document it is on is on OFFICIAL LETTERHEAD.
**Man named in Bush memo left Guard before document was written**
LOL if this is true! FReepers you are fantastic sleuths!
And no officer would put an order in a Memo -- not going to happen.
Well, this is Breaking News to everyone else in the world, except FReepers.
Get a grip, collect your thoughts, then hit 'Abuse' and let the mods decide if this is Breaking News or not - it's THEIR job, not yours.
Thanks.
Can you provide a link to some of the other docs? I only ask because someone with military background questioned using the PO Box in the letterhead, saying they would normally use the street address on the official letterhead. (They also pointed out that the letterhead should show the parent organization, not the squadron.)
Yeah, I saw that on Fox, this am. Now if that don't prove something stinks in denmark, I dont know what does.... Myself -- I want Dan Rather's A--s almost as much as I want kerry's in a sling, no less.
These leftists have the reasoning power of the average 7 year old.
This whole thing is UNbelieveable!
LOL! If we had gone to a School of Journalism, our brains would have been reprogrammed and realigned to worship the socialistic God of Liberalism and we would all be dues paying dingalings over at DU.
1-- proportional spacing not generally available
2 -- superscripts not generally available
3 - small "th" single element not generally available (not common, but available. Highly unlikely the machines were available at TANG)
4 - Smart quotes. Curved apostrophes and quotation marks were not available
5-The blurriness of the copy indicates it was recopied dozens of times, tactic of forgers
6--Signature block. Typical authentic military signature block has name, then rank, then on the next line the person's position. This just has rank beneath the name.
7--Margins. These look like a computer's unjustified default, not the way a person typing would have done it.
8 -- Date usually with three letters, or in form as 110471.
9 - words run over consistent with word processor
10 - Times Roman has been available since 1931, but only in linotype printshops...until released with Apple MacIntosh in 1984 and Windows 3.1 in 1991.
11 - signature looks faked
12 - no errors and whiteout
13 - no letterhead
14 - exact match for Microsoft Word Processor
15 - Paper size problem, Air Force and Guard did not use 8 1/2 x 11 inch paper until the 1980s.
16 - Overlap analysis is an exact match
17 - absence of hyphens to split words between lines, c/w 1970's typewriter.
18 - 5000 Longmont #8 in Houston Tx. does not exist (actually does exist, but Mr. Bush had already moved TWICE from this address at the time the memo was written).
19 - Box 34567 is suspicious, at best. The current use of the po box 34567 is Ashland Chemical Company, A Division of Ashland Oil, Incorporated P. O. Box 34567 Houston (this has been confirmed by the Pentagon, per James Rosen on Fox News-However, many documents on John Kerry’s website show same)
20 - it would have been nearly impossible to center a letterhead with proportional spacing without a computer.
21 - Bush's grade would "normally" be abbreviated "1Lt" not "1st Lt"
22 - Subject matter bizarre
23 - Air Force did not use street addresses for their offices, rather HQ AFLC/CC, Wright-Patterson AFB, OH 45433.
24 - kerning was not available
25 - In the August 18, 1973 memo, Jerry Killian purportedly writes: "Staudt has obviously pressured Hodges more about Bush. I'm having trouble running interference and doing my job." but General Staudt, who thought very highly of Lt. Bush, retired in 1972.
26 - Language not generally used by military
27 - Not signed or initialed
28 - Not in any format that a military person would use, e.g. orders not given by Memo.
29 – Is the document original or a copy of an original? Why all the background noise such as black marks and a series of repeated dots (as if run through a Xerox).(Rather explained his document was a photocopy-brings up additional questions of how redacted black address was visible from a several generation copy)
31-The Killiam family rejected these documents as forgeries. Then where did the “personal files” come from if not the family?
32-Why no three hole punches evident at the top of the page?
33-Mr. Bush would have had automatic physical scheduled for his Birthday – in July! He would not have received correspondence.
34-Why is the redacted address of Longmont #8 visible beneath the black mark? This would have been impossible after one copy, but it would be visible if the document was scanned.
35-Why were these exact same documents available for sale on the Internet y Marty Heldt, of leftist web site Tom Paine, as early as January 2004? Is this where CBS obtained their copies?
36-Acronym should be ORT, not ORET.
37- Last line of document 4 "Austin will not be pleased with this" is not in the same font and has been added!
38-Handwriting experts are not document experts – apples and oranges.
39 - Lt Col Killian didn't type
40-The forged documents had no initials from a clerk
41-There was no CC list (needed for orders)
42-Subject line in memos was normally CAPITALIZED in the military
43-The forged documents used incorrect terminology ("physical examination" instead of "medical")
44-There was no "reciept confirmation box" (required for orders)
45-The superscript "th" in the forged documents was raised half-way above the typed line (consistent with MS Word, but inconsistent with military typewriters which kept everything in-line to avoid writing outside the pre-printed boxes of standard forms)
46-CBS admits that it does *not* have the originals, but only original documents can be proven to be real; copies can *never* be authenticated positively...repeat: only original documents can be proven real. CBS never had the originals, so CBS knew that it was publishing something that couldn't be assured of authenticity.
47-the manual cited in the first forged document on line 2 of the first point #1 of "AFM 35-13" doesn't exist. That line of text reads: "to conduct annual physical examination (flight)IAW AFM 35-13". "IAW" means "In Accordance With" and "AFM 35-13" would mean "Air Force Manual 35-13". There is no such Air Force Manual 35-13.
so true, so true!!
That's VERY lame, mr. or ms. anonymous CBS staffer.
Hell, even that picture is bogus! Titanic's fourth funnel (smokestack, for you landlubbers) was a dummy funnel. It was a prestige and image issue. No smoke would have come out of it.
/shipwreck geek mode
The media is always behind on the news :0)
Calm down, and stop calling a freeper an ahole. The admin mods decide where this thread will reside. The fact that the story was reported in a major MSM rag makes it breaking news, not only the subject matter. And anyway, where this thread is parked has nothing to do with your "bandwidth." Get a grip.
Thread is Per FoxNews: Pentagon questioning PO Box Number -- Post #49
Click This -- Letterhead for 147th FIG with PO BOX 34567 address is about 3/4 of the way down the docs.
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