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Man named in Bush memo left Guard before document was written
Dallas Morning News ^ | 9-10-04

Posted on 09/10/2004 7:06:51 PM PDT by ambrose

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To: need_a_screen_name

Sorry, my friend, but this was reported multiple times -- yesterday. I know everyone wants to be a front page newsmaker, but there is only so much bandwidth to go around.


61 posted on 09/10/2004 7:25:52 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: croixjr
Shouldn't they come out swinging...if they know these are fake?

The WH was faxed these memos the night before. They were from a secret file from a secret source. They were not part of Presidents' official file. CBS told them what they were and the WH took them at face value. A major network certified to them they were real.

The fact that they didn't question makes CBS look even worse. If WH ranted and raved and accused CBS of forgery it would be turned around so quick that they planted it - even more than it is now.
62 posted on 09/10/2004 7:26:07 PM PDT by Republican Red (We're going to win one for the gipper...they're going to lose one for the flipper)
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To: PhiKapMom; Mitchell

"Earlier this year, though, Kerry aides raised the exact points the memo seemed to address."

Hmm indeed. If true, could indicate that Kerry/McAuliffe were fashioning the debate early on along the lines of these memos, and that they knew of the memos whenever "Earlier" is.

I suppose if one wanted to do research, a way would be to see when the "Bush failed an order to take a physical" meme popped up first. That angle, about an "order" to do it, seems unique to the CBS memos.


63 posted on 09/10/2004 7:26:09 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Dog Gone; TexasCowboy; NerdDad

DMS isn't drinking the Kool-Aide.


64 posted on 09/10/2004 7:27:21 PM PDT by razorback-bert
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To: A Citizen Reporter
Rather: "This story is true. The questions we raised about then-Lieutenant Bush's National Guard service are serious and legitimate," he said, expressing confidence the memos are authentic. "Until and unless someone shows me definitive proof that they are not, I don't see any reason to carry on a conversation with the professional rumor mill."

Danno, you're the one dealing with irresponsible rumours and unfounded smears! "This story is true," you haughtily huff. Why? Because you say it's true? Umm...check me if I'm wrong, here, Sparky...but isn't the burden of proof on you, the accuser? Don't you have to PROVE that your forgeries ARE real, rather than make the slandered party PROVE his innocence?

65 posted on 09/10/2004 7:27:26 PM PDT by Choose Ye This Day ("We showed weakness, and weak people are beaten."--Putin / "A more sensitive war on terror." --Kerry)
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To: croixjr

When your opponent is self destructing, you don't interupt him.


66 posted on 09/10/2004 7:27:35 PM PDT by NavVet (“Benedeict Arnold was wounded in battle fighting for America, but no one remembers him for that.”)
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To: Labyrinthos

Sorry, but a Freeper posting this revelation isn't the same as the MSM publishing a story about it.


67 posted on 09/10/2004 7:27:37 PM PDT by ambrose (Rather Lied -- and the Kerry Campaign Died)
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To: ZOTnot

How about one of those sink holes in Florida. they need all the solids they can find to throw into those.


68 posted on 09/10/2004 7:27:57 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (DemocRATS promise-RepubliCANS deliver-DemocRATS claim the credit.)
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To: Dog

Dog:
Sign me up for the brigade!


69 posted on 09/10/2004 7:28:16 PM PDT by bear11
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To: ambrose

I have broadband, Pal. Stop being an ahole and take the time to look for an on-topic thread before draining the bandwith.


70 posted on 09/10/2004 7:28:31 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: Shermy

Reynolds reported that Kerry recently began playing "Fortunate Son" at his rallies. This was a planned hit, done in concert with CBS.


71 posted on 09/10/2004 7:28:46 PM PDT by ambrose (Rather Lied -- and the Kerry Campaign Died)
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To: All

What's this I here about Barnes not even taking the office of LG until AFTER Bush was in? Did he have a position of influance before LG? Is that another anacronism?

While I'm on the subject, does ANY blog have an athoritative timeline of Bush's Gaurd years including the proven dates (enlistment, deicharge, when he changed assignments etc) as well as the aledged ones (differentiated of course)?

All these charges and counter charges have amounted to a confusing amount of info. I'd like to see what is proven as opposed to what is CLAIMED.

For instance, the relationship between the supposedly missed Physical, Bush's birth month (when physicals were supposed to happen), the point at which he stopped flying, and his discharge date...I'm getting the feeling there not nearly as much unaccounted for time as the Dems are aledging but I want to SEE it.


72 posted on 09/10/2004 7:29:22 PM PDT by WillRain ("Might have been the losing side, still not convinced it was the wrong one.")
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To: razorback-bert

I looked and looked at that, wondering what was wrong, the second clicked post, I knew

DMS = DMN


73 posted on 09/10/2004 7:29:42 PM PDT by razorback-bert
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To: Labyrinthos
I defy you to point to a single MSM article on this topic prior to the one posted here.

Well?

I'M WAITING!


74 posted on 09/10/2004 7:30:07 PM PDT by ambrose (Rather Lied -- and the Kerry Campaign Died)
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To: F.J. Mitchell

"Until and unless someone shows me definitive proof that they are not, I don't see any reason to carry on a conversation with the professional rumor mill." - Dan Rather


Anybody go to Journalism school? lol this freerepublic, of course not... ...but wouldn't one think that the burdon of truth would be on journalists to prove their sources before putting them on the air? It's like Rather saying "Geroge Bush is an alien and until someone proves otherwise I stand by my story".

there is a logical fallacy for this.. forget what the term is called...


75 posted on 09/10/2004 7:30:15 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/welfare.htm)
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To: ambrose

Aren't forgers supposed to be smarter than this? This sounds like a guy who would give a stick-up note to a bank teller on the back of his electric bill.


76 posted on 09/10/2004 7:30:51 PM PDT by doug from upland (Dan Rather is a journalist like Michael Moore is a pole vaulter.)
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To: ambrose

It's been here over and over the last 24 hours. I'm not refering to MSN, but here in Freeperland. Take the constuctive criticism and move on.


77 posted on 09/10/2004 7:30:53 PM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: ridesthemiles

The sequential PO Box numbers have been shown to be consistent with other documents.


78 posted on 09/10/2004 7:32:30 PM PDT by ironman
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To: croixjr
Shouldn't they come out swinging...if they know these are fake?

First rule of politics - Never step in the way when your opponent is cutting his own throat.

79 posted on 09/10/2004 7:34:32 PM PDT by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: ambrose; Mitchell
Reynolds reported that Kerry recently began playing "Fortunate Son" at his rallies. This was a planned hit, done in concert with CBS.

Probable anti-Vietnam war apparatchiks, certainly non-mil, going after Bush for non-service in Vietnam? Bad, bad flashbacks they're having. 9/11 discombobulated their anti-american worldview.

What is Kerry, "Fortunate Husband?"

80 posted on 09/10/2004 7:34:52 PM PDT by Shermy
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