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Per FoxNews: Pentagon questioning PO Box Number
FoxNews | 10 SEP 2004 | me

Posted on 09/10/2004 11:09:40 AM PDT by aft_lizard

James Rosen just reported that the Pentagon questions the use of a PO Box on a memo, and that the PO Box may never have been used by that unit saying it seems highly unlikely that they would have PO Box containing sequential numbers. Standard military practice has always been to place the actual physical address on the letter head.


TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: 60minutes; bush; cbs; communistparty; danrather; forgerie; forgery; fraud; liar; napalminthemorning; nationalguard; pobox34567; rathergate; selectricgate
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To: Arrowhead1952

It's not like the memo had dead giveaway info on it, like CC to Johnny Johnson in Johnson City, Texas or anything. ;)


101 posted on 09/10/2004 11:39:10 AM PDT by Fawnn (Canteen wOOhOO Consultant and CookingWithPam.com person - Faith makes things possible, not easy.)
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To: PhiKapMom

FYI


102 posted on 09/10/2004 11:40:03 AM PDT by Mo1 (FR NEWS ALERT .... John Kerry over dosed on Botox and thinks he's Bob KerrEy)
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To: Catphish

OK those documents raise even more questions.

Why does the 147th FIG have the same PO Box as the 111th?

Why do the killian document list an address that according to the USA today link had bushing living there in 1969 but in jan 1971 he lived at a different address?

Curious.


103 posted on 09/10/2004 11:40:22 AM PDT by aft_lizard (I actually voted for John Kerry before I voted against him)
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To: aft_lizard
Ping for the Pentagon:


104 posted on 09/10/2004 11:40:28 AM PDT by thingumbob
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To: Old Professer
Agreed. My first name is William (you can call me Bill) and the only thing you can read in my signature is that big ol' W. The rest is totally illegible!

Regarding the K, you can also see in one doc where the top of it is cut off, as if cut and pasted, and then xeroxed, just as we used to do in the days before computers.

The plot thickens...

105 posted on 09/10/2004 11:40:44 AM PDT by RetroSexual
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To: TaxRelief; george wythe
This use of the term is too modern.

I kinda got the same feeling when he referred to GHWB as GWB's "dad". For some reason, I would think as a by-the-book military guy in the early 70's, he would have used the term "father" on a memo. But what do I know.

106 posted on 09/10/2004 11:41:15 AM PDT by jtminton (<><)
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To: All


CRAP!

The DNC was right! If you connect the dots it clearly spells out HALIBURTON!

Bush is doomed!
107 posted on 09/10/2004 11:41:17 AM PDT by j_k_l
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To: SOSCEO

Obviously Hollywood was not involved in this or it might have been PO Box 90210.


108 posted on 09/10/2004 11:41:27 AM PDT by applpie
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To: aft_lizard
DEBUNKED

For anyone just skimming through this thread, the same address was used in one of the known legit Bush documents. I think we can put this one to bed, for the most part, although another poster noted that the address was for the flight Group, and not the Squadron (I dont know if that means anything anyways).

Anyways, I think this angle of "forgery" should be put to bed, the Pentagon not withstanding.

109 posted on 09/10/2004 11:42:28 AM PDT by Paradox (Occam was probably right.)
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To: Hank All-American
My last overseas unit was on my DD214 as:

401 CRS (USAFE)
(Torrejon AB SPAIN)
APO NY 09283

NO P.O. Box number ever, on 3 stateside bases and 1 OS base. Actually, each base has it's own ZIP code and post office.

110 posted on 09/10/2004 11:42:51 AM PDT by BobS
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To: aft_lizard

"why would he even bother putting an address header on a memo to himself?"

exactly;

a. either he would use a letterhead and follow the memo format for a Memordandum for Record;

b. or if it was something quick for his own use, why bother with formalities -- why anything but a date? why an odd signature block? Just write it, date it, initial or sign it.

If a unit clerk typed it, it would be case a.
If he did it himself, it would more likely be case a if he was a stickler about military formality; or case b if he just wanted a quick memo for himself. It would not be some mishmash in between.

Since he could not type (per his wife), it would have to be case a, a clerk typing it. A secretary or clerk WOULD use the letterhead and MFR format -- even if not perfectly (could be a new clerk or something).
But it violates too many conventions to have been case a.

Since he couldn't type (which we did not know for sure yest. before the widow spoke up) it wasn't case b, either.



111 posted on 09/10/2004 11:45:00 AM PDT by AMDG&BVMH
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To: GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY

Just a thought and a fantasy.............
Wouldn't this be great if this was, in fact, a sting? A sting in a federal criminal investigation? Sweet.
(I can dream, can't I?)


112 posted on 09/10/2004 11:45:05 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights (What part of SHALL PASS NO LAW do they not understand?)
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To: xkaydet65

Yeah--the physical address....


113 posted on 09/10/2004 11:45:10 AM PDT by Cogadh na Sith (--Scots Gaelic: 'War or Peace'--)
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To: aft_lizard
While I would wholeheartedly agree that the use of a PO Box number on official "correspondance" does indeed "smell", I found at least one other document [can NOT vouch for authenticity!!] which would seem to at least validate the number itself:

Link to source

If this is an invalid source. I would appreciate a ping to tell me so - so I can stop using it . . .

114 posted on 09/10/2004 11:45:18 AM PDT by An.American.Expatriate (A vote for JF'nK is a vote for Peace in our Time!)
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To: Paradox

DEBUNKED:

Not. The PO Box was used in an earlier paperwork for the 147th FIG, now why would the 111th use the same PO Box as another unit?


115 posted on 09/10/2004 11:45:42 AM PDT by aft_lizard (I actually voted for John Kerry before I voted against him)
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To: aft_lizard

34567 on a phone pad spells “films” so I suspect the forger is Michael Moore.


116 posted on 09/10/2004 11:46:01 AM PDT by tractorman
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To: GAGOPSWEEPTOVICTORY
Whoever forged these documents is pretty darn stupid.

My guess is that the person is non-military, too young to remember old typewriters and too lazy to do their homework.

117 posted on 09/10/2004 11:46:32 AM PDT by twigs
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To: george wythe
I haven't watched anything on CBS in years, but I might just have to watch the "news" tonight. I don't think reading about Dan Rather's implosion will be satisfaction enough. I gotta see it!
118 posted on 09/10/2004 11:46:57 AM PDT by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 am EDT, until she's safe. http://www.terrisfight.org)
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To: RetroSexual
The IBM Executive model, which was in common use during the 1970s, was capable of all of these things. It was famous for having proportional typing capabilities. Centering was as simple as setting a tab stop and using the correct keys to backspace half of the line length.

Maybe so, but would typing that letter on the IBM Executive have the *exact* overlay that typing it on MS Word does? I think not.

I work at a Help Desk. One of the partners in my firm wrote a book when we were using Word Perfect. He wanted to print out a few more copies but we had since converted to MS Word. Now, we used the same computers (different software, though), the same font (Times New Roman, coincidentally), the same pitch and could not get the text to line up exactly. We had to change the parameters (i.e, condensing white space, kerning, line height spacing) for almost *every line* in a 200+ page book to get the same line breaks and page breaks in Word as we did in WordPerfect.

And this was no 30 YEAR DIFFERENCE in technology -- no more than 3!

So if you can show me that you can get an exact overlay from a 30 year old typewriter as you can from MS Word I would be very interested to see it!

119 posted on 09/10/2004 11:47:18 AM PDT by HateBill (John Kerry -- the only hope for suicidal jihadists.)
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To: aft_lizard
All I can say is, whover wrote these fake documents sure had a good sense of humor.

Wouldn't surprise me one bit if they (CBSDNC) were to trot out some 7th grader who then sheepishly admits that he and some friends did it as a lark. Therefore the whole thing should just be laughed off......

sKerry has been reduced to a punchline.

120 posted on 09/10/2004 11:47:50 AM PDT by There's millions of'em (Please give the mic to Terayza...)
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