Posted on 09/09/2004 11:44:01 AM PDT by Peach
Thursday, September 09, 2004 2:41 PM EST
By Melanie Hunter CNSNews.com Deputy Managing Editor September 09, 2004 02:34 pm
'60 Minutes' Documents on Bush Might Be Fake
(CNSNews.com) - The 32-year-old documents produced Wednesday by the CBS News program "60 Minutes," shedding a negative light on President Bush's service in the Texas Air National Guard, may have been forged using a current word processing program, according to typography experts. Three independent typography experts told CNSNews.com they were suspicious of the documents from 1972 and 1973 because they were typed using a proportional font, not common at that time, and they used a superscript font feature found in today's Microsoft Word program. More to Come
"But HOW do we get the word out about the fraud beyond the world of the Internet?"
Email. Pass the word along to everyone in your address book so they can pass the story to everyone in theirs. At some point, Fox or some other non-internet outlet will pick it up.
Ahem, I am a dudette. :-)
And thanks to the people who did the legwork; I just put the thread up.
I understand that, but there are certain commonalities that really don't change, especially with regard to the first letter of a first or last name. My signature always starts out with an identifiably similar "B" and then goes to hell from there, but the "B" is always structurally the same. The "K" in "Killian" in these signatures is significantly different.
A font expert weighs in:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1211248/posts
Which proves that, what? MS copied an IBM executive (not selectric) typewriter font and spacing exactly? I would have hoped that they would.
If CBS has the originals, it should be a piece of cake to prove that they were at least done on a real typewriter (impact marks, etc.)
We're handing them lots of ammunition to fire back at us.
Believe me, if we would nail Dan Rather with this, I'd be jumping for joy. But I smell a trap.
"Ahem, I am a dudette. :-)"
Sorry, I meant my comments with all dude respect.
I saw your handle and it made me think of General Howlin Mad Smith!
No problem; lots of people use to make that mistake.
I'm a gull that posts like a really mean guy. :-)
< I truly salute the Freepers who did the analyses on this. Some of the most amazing investigations I've ever seen, and done in such a short time period too. >
Affirmative on that.
I never knew you were a dudette until today! I'm a bubbette but finally removed it from my tag.
My understanding is that there were very high end typewriters with such things. Since these were done for the personal CYA file of this Lt Col. I'll bet he didn't even do them at the squadron. We're talking ANG, right? Did he have a day job? Maybe in a law office, with a secretary that would NOT have typed things exactly the military way?
I'm just guessing, but I think CBS is going to win this one, and they'll be able to trash us as idiots for pursuing it. At the same time, we're handing them attention on this subject, when we should be getting it behind us.
Fonts are copywrited
Agreed, but what about the signatures on the memos?
Secretaries often signed for their bosses. I'm going to try and find this guys resume somewhere. I'll bet he had a secretary in a posh office and that explains the non-military terms, high end typewriter and signature.
We're going to get embarrassed here.
(I really hope it's ME that gets embarrassed when someone nails CBS, but I'm afraid that CBS might just be right - these memo's are really worthless - we shouldn't even keep them in the press)
Yep, I am. Nasty, are't I? :-)
Not to worry. Mash here: http://www.indcjournal.com/
They interviewed one of the top forensic typography experts in the world, and he is 90+% sure they are fakes, based on the font in the fakes not matching fonts on machines available at the time, based on an encyclopedic catalog of all available fonts.
That is to say noting of the dozens of other indicators of forgery which have yet to be refuted.
Would it be possible to date the paper of the original?
Looks like the AP is trying to claim the WH released forged documents:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1211250/posts
It'd be so great to nail Dan Rather for the Rat slime he is.
< But HOW do we get the word out about the fraud beyond the world of the Internet? >
No problem. It's called news competition - along with (equally important) not wanting to look bad. There's a point where they have to go with it. They may try to spin it, but they can not ignore it; and if they do, they only degrade themselves even further as news sources.
We are evolving into the stage where the media begins to blame Kerry and his people (It's not our fault, says the media, it's Kerry's).
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