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52 Hours of Horror and Death for Captives at Russian School (Hostages speak)
NY Times ^ | 9/5/04 | C. J. CHIVERS

Posted on 09/04/2004 2:08:00 PM PDT by jimbo123

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To: B4Ranch; JustPiper; dbwz; Fun Bob; Freemeorkillme

We already know where the next AQ targets are located here in America.>>

Sure do.

Hey soccer moms, aren't most schools in the USA GUN FREE SCHOOL ZONES??

You know what they say, CRIMINALS JUST LOVE GUN CONTROL, IT MAKES THEIR JOB MUCH EASIER.


41 posted on 09/04/2004 9:54:14 PM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: B4Ranch; MamaDearest; Labyrinthos; drymans wife; nwctwx; Quix; DAVEY CROCKETT; texasbluebell; ...
all the "gun free zones" (ie, Federal, State, City property, courthouses, etc)will be ideal targets.
Why attack somewhere that could be heavily armed with the civilians carrying concealed weapons?

Sometimes it takes walking away from an issue one is innudated with, such as months of the WOT and step away, step back, and see Ranch's opinion on targets!

Thanks friend!

42 posted on 09/04/2004 11:51:26 PM PDT by JustPiper (Zell " We are LIBERATOR'S NOT Obstructionists!!!" Miller- OCCUPY THIS KERRY !!!)
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To: JustPiper; glock rocks; Happy2BMe
To further understand the hazards of the gun free zone.
Think about what time of day you are visiting one. I prefer first thing in the morning for ease of business but later in the day is the safest time.

Is this day a particular day when the terrorists might gain some 'respect' amongst the Islamics, ie. one of our holidays or one of theirs. Is the crowd going to be more than normal? Will a Senator be there or someone else who is a 'target'?

If so, don't go. Wait until the hazardous days have passed.

When you are in the building:
Take a look at the people who are there with you? Is there a small group that gives you reason for worry? If so get out! Tell the security guards what you are thinking.

In schools, talk with your children about what they would do if they heard a gunshot in the building.

This is my advice, nothing that has been approved by any authority!

Tell them to forget what the teacher is saying and get out the closest window as fast as possible. Stay quiet! No talking whatsoever! Do not run across open ground to get to the parking area if it is more than 20 feet to the parked vehicles because someone could be on the roof ready to shoot them.

Then run along the wall to a corner of the building. This gives them the choice of what 'side' of the building they think is safest. Two steps and they are on the safer side.

Now look for shadows on the ground from humans on the roof. Take a breather. Observe what is going on around them. Are they as far as possible away from the direction they think the shot came from? Yes, then lay down amd be quiet.

If they do see some group they think could be attacking the building, either run away from them using the building as a protection shield or lay down and pretend to be DEAD.

When the group is inside the building, BE QUIET and pretend to be DEAD. Let the cops tell them when it is safe to run away from the building.

Again !! This is my advice, nothing that has been approved by any authority!

I just don't like the idea of being inside the building because that is where the attackers want to be.

If they are in a mall or a Wal-Mart or some other big store where there is lots of people and shooting starts inside the building, the same advice holds true. Look for a door with a FIRE sign above it and go out that door. The crowd is going to use th exite same door they came in. Bad move unless you can get to the door before the crowd can.

Once they are outside do a quick ground scan for the roof shadows and head for the dumpster or a big truck. Somewhere where they can sit down and take a breather to determine what to do next.

Once more!! This is my advice, nothing that has been approved by any authority!

While pretending to be DEAD remind your kids that corpses do not swat flies, talk or change positions. They are silent and do not move. Sure it's uncomfortable to have four flies walking around on your face but a bullet hole in your chest is not uncomfortable, it hurts like hell and you will die from it!

The trick to staying alive is staying aware of what's happening around you. Just like driving a car at 65 mph.

So, just because they have made it away from the building where they heard the shooting doesn't mean the next building is safe to enter.

Look for cops with cop cars. Cops that look worried and hiding behind their own car for protection. Those guys are our cops not someone wearing a stolen uniform.

Once more!! This is my advice, nothing that has been approved by any authority!

If sleeping in a dumpster is the best choice they have when nighfall comes. DO IT! You are still alive and nobody is shooting at you, so stay there for the next 4, 6, 12 or 24 hours.

Stay aware and stay alive.

43 posted on 09/05/2004 1:20:15 AM PDT by B4Ranch (You can evade reality, but you cannot evade the consequences of evading reality - Ayn Rand)
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To: stockpirate

So were the other children and parents, Muslums?

From what I've read, the area is predominantly Orthodox, i.e., Christian--almost certainly why that area was targeted. Reportedly, two other schools in Beslan were cased by the terrorists. But I would not assume that all the students/ families were either/ or Muslim/ Christian. Entirely possible that some of the victims were ''none of the above''.

44 posted on 09/05/2004 5:47:07 AM PDT by elli1
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To: Judith Anne

I have read elsewhere that this was a parochial Christian school.

I've not read that nor does Google turn up anything. Do you recall where you read it? What I have read is that the terrorists cased out two other schools in Beslan & that Putin has announced that the school will be razed and a new school will be built in a new location. Also, the school is referred to as ''Middle School One'' which sounds very much more like a public school than a parochial Christian school.

45 posted on 09/05/2004 6:00:53 AM PDT by elli1
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To: jimbo123
Islam is a death cult.

No. A murder cult.

46 posted on 09/05/2004 6:13:07 AM PDT by veronica (http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com/ - read the truth about John Kerry!)
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To: jimbo123
three hostages said, carried toothbrushes, razors and toothpaste, tucked beside their ammunition on their camouflage-clad chests.

Ah, personal hygiene is important when you're on a mission to kill children.

47 posted on 09/05/2004 6:25:10 AM PDT by csvset
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To: csvset

Islam is about self and nothing else. So personal hygene is appropriate when your waiting to get your virgins.


48 posted on 09/05/2004 8:04:35 AM PDT by highpockets
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To: B4Ranch; dennisw; SJackson; MeekOneGOP; TrueBeliever9; Geist Krieger; JohnHuang2; Salem; Sanch; ...
In reaction to the "Messengers of Allah" killing over 150 school children in Russia, B4Ranch advises American School Children in how to survive an Islamic Attack . . .

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"Tell them to forget what the teacher is saying and get out the closest window as fast as possible. Stay quiet! No talking whatsoever! Do not run across open ground to get to the parking area if it is more than 20 feet to the parked vehicles because someone could be on the roof ready to shoot them.

Then run along the wall to a corner of the building. This gives them the choice of what 'side' of the building they think is safest. Two steps and they are on the safer side.

Now look for shadows on the ground from humans on the roof. Take a breather. Observe what is going on around them. Are they as far as possible away from the direction they think the shot came from? Yes, then lay down and be quiet.

If they do see some group they think could be attacking the building, either run away from them using the building as a protection shield or lay down and pretend to be DEAD."

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Is this a "tin foil" or "the sky is falling" panic?

Why don't we ask the children of Beslan . .

Whoever thought they would see the day in America we would be having THIS conversation? - ping.

HINT: If they did it in Beslan, they'll do it in Detroit.

Cleric supports targeting children

Boy who begged for water was bayoneted

49 posted on 09/05/2004 9:47:59 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Jihad - coming to a school near you.)
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To: Happy2BMe; B4Ranch

50 posted on 09/05/2004 9:59:49 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Happy2BMe
It can happen here!!!

51 posted on 09/05/2004 10:57:49 AM PDT by Robert Drobot (God, family, country. All else is meaningless.)
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To: Happy2BMe; PhilDragoo; Ragtime Cowgirl; Cindy; SusanTK; AdmSmith; Valin; Luis Gonzalez; ...


ISLAMOFACISTS ABUSE CHILDREN WORLD WIDE








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52 posted on 09/05/2004 2:03:18 PM PDT by Smartass (BUSH & CHENEY 2004 Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: csvset

The razors were for shaving their beards and mustaches when they tried to escape and blend into the local population.


53 posted on 09/05/2004 2:40:26 PM PDT by jimbo123
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To: EternalVigilance

Story about Christians at this school is posted here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1207457/posts


54 posted on 09/05/2004 3:14:09 PM PDT by JulieRNR21 (I trust NOBODY BUT BUSH! Take W-04....Across America!)
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To: elli1

I'm sorry I don't remember.


55 posted on 09/05/2004 5:42:54 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Grandma is beating off the Indians, and they keep on coming...)
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To: Smartass

Thanks for the ping!


56 posted on 09/05/2004 7:25:11 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Smartass

BTTT


57 posted on 09/06/2004 3:40:40 AM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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