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Is a Terrorist Army Massing in the U.S.?
MichNews ^ | 08-28-2004 | Alan Caruba

Posted on 08/28/2004 6:49:37 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus

Is there is an invisible army of terrorists gathering in America today? The mainstream media and the Bush administration do not want to talk about it.

In July, Defense Watch reported that, in Arizona, an area called the Naco Strip has become a primary route of illegal entry by “significant numbers of Arab-speaking males.” It took a small town weekly newspaper, the Tombstone Tumbleweed, to reveal that, “males of possible Syrian and Iranian descent have been detained in the past few weeks.” Since October 1, 2003, 5,510 illegal aliens designated “Other Than Mexican” (OTM) have been apprehended while crossing the Arizona terrain. These OTM’s are not here to pick vegetables, mow lawns, pluck chickens, or wash cars.

Just do the math. If only five Muslim terrorists crossed the border every day for a year that would add up to 1,825 people ready to do the bidding of Osama bin Laden. If this has been going on for just the years since 9-11, that’s an army of 5,475. Then, too, there are an estimated 2.9 million Muslims in America. Extremists, worldwide, are estimated to be about ten percent of the overall population. Applied to the U.S., that represents a potential 290,000 American Muslims sympathetic to the Islamist cause. No matter how you slice and dice the numbers, it suggests that a substantial threat exists and is exacerbated by the failure to stop terrorists at our borders.

They constitute a virtual army of terrorists who, if not apprehended, could create a day of havoc from coast to coast when al Qaeda gives the signal. When that day comes, remember that you read about it here first.

Or, as some argue, there’s no proof that any al Qaeda operatives have crossed the border. If, however, any were captured, normal counter-terrorism procedures would be to deny this and seek to extract information from those in custody.The 9-11 operatives were here thanks to sloppy immigration procedures and, in the case of illegal aliens, the estimates are that eight to twelve million live among us. That is a huge margin for error.

The topic the Bush administration wants to stay away from until after November 2, Election Day is immigration. Some have called the Bush administration immigration policies “schizophrenic”, but they are not. They are globalist, i.e., the views of someone for whom national borders should be regarded as outmoded while we all join hands in one big, global neighborhood.

One can understand the “schizophrenic” label, given the hue and cry about Bush’s so-called unilateralism and willingness “to go it alone”, but this is the same administration that supports a variety of policies that are globalist, most of which come straight out of the United Nations. The way civics is taught in our schools today is designed to create generations of globalists for whom our national sovereignty and the Bill of Rights are just a bunch of 18th century “ideas.”

There are a number of problems with this see-no-evil immigration policy. On August 10, Jerry Seper of the Washington Times, reported that, under President Bush’s guest-worker program, “Millions of illegal aliens in the United States would be free from arrest and deportation, have access to tax-deferred savings accounts and Social Security credits, and get unrestricted travel to and from their home countries.” This constitutes a massive dollar transfer to Mexico.

Homeland Security Undersecretary, Asa Hutchinson, responsible for the nation’s borders and transportation security, has apparently lost his senses. In a recently reported response to questions from the Senate Judiciary Committee, Hutchinson supported the Bush immigration policies while acknowledging that the “incentives” being offered illegal aliens are generous to a fault. The National Border Patrol Council that represents 10,000 of the non-supervisory agents called the guest-worker plan a “slap in the face to anyone who has ever tried to enforce the immigration laws of the United States."

In January 2004, the Mexican government acknowledged that the number of their people entering the US illegally had increased 66% from 1990 to 2002. Naturally, Mexico’s president, Vicente Fox, wants Bush to grant de facto amnesty to an estimated eight to eleven million illegal aliens already working in the United States, the majority of whom are Mexican. Amnesty and any other program of this nature is simply a reward for breaking the laws of the United States of America. There are even some voices suggesting they should be given the right to vote!

One little discussed cost of the open door policy being pursued by the Bush administration is the increase in the cost of law enforcement where illegal aliens gather in numbers. Right now, according to Seper, “About 80,000 illegal criminal aliens, including convicted murders, rapists, drug dealers, and child molesters who served prison time and were releases, are loose on the streets of America, hiding from federal immigration authorities.”

They don’t have to hide that hard. According the figures for 2002 from the former Immigration and Naturalization Service and from US Immigration and Customs Enforcement, more than 375,000 known illegal aliens have been ordered deported, but have disappeared pending immigration hearings. Lee Boyd Malvo, the sniper who terrorized the Washington area, was one of them.

Recently, Brazil agreed to step up the policing of the Triple Border Area with Paraguay and Argentina. According to a Washington Times editorial, “It has long been identified as a fund-raising, training and procurement haven for diverse terrorist groups, including al Qaeda and Hezbollah.” The ease with which terrorists could be infiltrated into the US from these South American strongholds cannot be underestimated.

When the facts are examined, there are few good reasons to permit the massive daily influx of Mexicans and other illegal aliens, but there is one very good reason to shut it down completely.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; alqaeda; asahutchinson; border; bushamnesty; caruba; homelandsecurity; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; islam; jihadinamerica; muslims; terrorists; wot
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To: Jim Robinson
...watch the poll we run after the Republican Convention. Any guesses as to how many FReepers will like to see Bush voted out?

If he doesn't change his mind about letting all the mexicans come here, I would like to see him voted out. As I said before, with Kerry in office the end will come sooner and we start over again that much quicker.

Also, a bit of gridlock will make it better just like under Clinton when Gingrich shaped the legislative agenda. Of course, Frist is no Gingrich.

321 posted on 08/29/2004 4:51:08 AM PDT by raybbr (My 1.4 cents - It used to be 2 cents, but after taxes - you get the idea.)
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To: azhenfud
I think we can freep GW all we want but will turn a bling eye to us on this issue. He is hell bent on getting as many mexicans as possible into this country.
322 posted on 08/29/2004 4:59:15 AM PDT by raybbr (My 1.4 cents - It used to be 2 cents, but after taxes - you get the idea.)
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To: NewRomeTacitus; Happy2BMe
What's wrong with this picture ¿¿



323 posted on 08/29/2004 5:19:18 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: TheLion

I know that I would be very uncomfortable in an area where there were a lot of them.


324 posted on 08/29/2004 5:48:26 AM PDT by sweetliberty ("A wise man's heart inclines him to the right, but a fool's heart to the left." (Eccl. 10:2))
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To: johnfkerrysucks
"Scary stuff! This IS REALLY happening and people should wake up!"

Specifically, Bush, Cheney, Rove, Ridge and Asa "should wake up!"

325 posted on 08/29/2004 5:51:07 AM PDT by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity', it's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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To: TheSpottedOwl; american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; Polycarp IV; narses; ...
Islam has been compared to a Satanic cult. Who else but Satan could devise such a trap for the Western world?

Excellent points and very well taken. Their 'holy book' is a bastardized version of the Bible, so poorly translated from its original sources that "77 grapes" promised to the victorious is understood by some as "77 virgins". And, only Satan could author such a book!

Catholic Ping - let me know if you want on/off this list


326 posted on 08/29/2004 5:52:11 AM PDT by NYer (When you have done something good, remember the words "without Me you can do nothing." (John 15:5).)
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To: TheSpottedOwl
We should all put our heads together after the election and discuss candidates who share our views on illegal immigration and securing the border.

Fugedaboudit, I'm already reading articles about the coronation of Prince Jeb.

327 posted on 08/29/2004 5:57:48 AM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan)
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To: NewRomeTacitus

No, they were already here.

More are coming but their cadre were already here and have been here since the '60s.

Many hold national political offices.


328 posted on 08/29/2004 6:02:40 AM PDT by sport
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To: Jim Robinson

The border could be a lot better controlled --- right now it's pretty much wide open, there are fences in the towns that do keep many on their own side and thanks to Operation Hold-the-Line, there are agents placed pretty close together so that you can see extreme violence and crime in a city like Ciudad Juarez yet El Paso is relatively calm and the car theft rates are down from what they were.

One problem is the Mexican cartels haven't been shut down, they have the ability to smuggle huge amounts of drugs and people over the border --- shut down the smuggling operations and that takes care of much of the problem. The smugglers are working with dishonest employers on the USA --- like slavers supplying them the cheapest possible labor so those employers should also suffer some consequence. Big fines to reimburse the taxpayers for what their cheap employees have cost --- it's the taxpayers who pay when an illegal without workman's comp and insurance gets injured, or when his kids get sick or girlfriend has a baby, or when the kids need to go to Headstart.


329 posted on 08/29/2004 6:21:02 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: rwfromkansas
Their ethnicity doesn't prove anything

Rrrrriiiiiiiight.

Keep inspecting Granny at the airport, ignore the Arabs.

Have another slurp of KoolAid.

330 posted on 08/29/2004 6:24:41 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: LisaMalia
Does one seal off our borders completely? Try getting re-elected if you go that route.

How would that hurt re-election chances? The only reason Silvestre Reyes got elected to Congress is because he was the border patrol chief who put Operation Blockade and Operation Hold-the-Line into place --- he stood up to the Mexican government which obviously condemned him for those and that made him quite popular in the area along the border. Along the border, people definitely do not want the border open --- and we're talking mostly "hispanic" people.

331 posted on 08/29/2004 6:26:52 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Jim Robinson

Even if you arbitrarily cut Caruba's number in half--to only 2500 or so Arab-speaking illegals--are you trying to tell us that there is absolutely NO danger or threat present by virtue of their access to this country?

Since all of my grandparents got here the old-fashioned way (LEGALLY), it's not too much to ask that others do the same.

Is there a problem with following the laws of the country?


332 posted on 08/29/2004 6:28:08 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: Cedar
Mexican officials say they are closely scrutinizing visa requests from the Middle East and have heightened surveillance at the nation's largest airports since Sept. 11.

All we have to do with the Arabs coming over the Mexican border is assume they're really Mexicans -- and deport them to Mexico -- fly them to Mexico City or Guadalajara and let the Mexicans take care of them. A few months in a Mexican prison might be a good deterrant.

333 posted on 08/29/2004 6:30:33 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: potlatch

Yup. Both my boys play paintball, and when Hildebeeste gets elected President, they, too, will be declared 'terrorists.'

Under the provisions of the Patriot Act, their case will be heard by a Secret Court (no defense necessary, or invited) and could be subject to sneak-and-peek, OR immediate jailing for the 'safety' of the citizens.


334 posted on 08/29/2004 6:32:22 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: MegaSilver
It may not be possible to outlaw the practicing of Islam as a religion, just as it was not possible to forbid membership in the Communist Party in the 1950's

Since an estimated 80% of the mosques are built by Saudi government money, I think many should be shut down for that reason --- they are agents of a foreign government. And Muslims should be treated just like Nazi groups in the USA are --- watched very closely. We've got Nazis --- I guess that hasn't been forbidden either. We have to be careful about Nazi symbols being used to spread their hate --- but even much more careful about Islamic symbols being used.

335 posted on 08/29/2004 6:36:00 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: hershey
when adults come here with every intention of going home once they've made enough money, and they have kids who go to school and mix with others...the kids become Americans.

Yeah.

Read CityJournal--go find their article on 3rd-generation Mexicans. It's not exactly what you portray.

336 posted on 08/29/2004 6:38:51 AM PDT by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: hershey
The kids were arrested, probably rightfully so on marijuana charges, and jailed.

They were lucky --- one kid who attended high school here -- not an American kid but the family was living here -- got involved in the drug trade in Mexico and his was one of the 13 bodies dug up buried under some backyard patio in Juarez --- those guys were tortured severely and killed by the police over there working for the competing cartel.

337 posted on 08/29/2004 6:42:22 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: ninenot

It used to be that way but assimilation is difficult when you're placed into Spanish speaking classrooms and never have the opportunity to hear English speaking people.


338 posted on 08/29/2004 6:44:00 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: oceanperch
Here in PA the fruit trees are full. Apples (I planted 5 more trees this spring) and pears (Bartlett and winter pears). There's been a flock of turkeys in the neighborhood too. And some of the biggest gray squirrels I've ever seen, thanks to full chestnut trees.
339 posted on 08/29/2004 6:54:25 AM PDT by airborne (2/504 PIR - 'Devils In Baggy Pants')
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To: Casloy

>>Not sure I would consider it such a horrendous threat. I would fear a small group of highly trained terrorists over a massive influx. What exactly can this massive army accomplish? They can barely communicate with each other if at all, they have no support, no weapons to speak of (other than what they can buy, which would certainly set off alarms), no understanding of the culture, and no training.<<

Exactly how are the illegal aliens who come from Mexico and countries South get along? There is people here of their ethnic background who assist them.

How long have we had ME's living in the US? Certainly long enough to allow an illegal alien (terrorist) from the Middle East to disappear into our communities and our law enforcement doesn't even have the capabilities to detect their arrival.

Should a group of ME's launch another attack on America, more people will die and then your eyes may be opened a bit wider to reality.


340 posted on 08/29/2004 7:46:36 AM PDT by B4Ranch (You can evade reality, but you cannot evade the consequences of evading reality - Ayn Rand)
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