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Is a Terrorist Army Massing in the U.S.?
MichNews ^ | 08-28-2004 | Alan Caruba

Posted on 08/28/2004 6:49:37 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus

Is there is an invisible army of terrorists gathering in America today? The mainstream media and the Bush administration do not want to talk about it.

In July, Defense Watch reported that, in Arizona, an area called the Naco Strip has become a primary route of illegal entry by “significant numbers of Arab-speaking males.” It took a small town weekly newspaper, the Tombstone Tumbleweed, to reveal that, “males of possible Syrian and Iranian descent have been detained in the past few weeks.” Since October 1, 2003, 5,510 illegal aliens designated “Other Than Mexican” (OTM) have been apprehended while crossing the Arizona terrain. These OTM’s are not here to pick vegetables, mow lawns, pluck chickens, or wash cars.

Just do the math. If only five Muslim terrorists crossed the border every day for a year that would add up to 1,825 people ready to do the bidding of Osama bin Laden. If this has been going on for just the years since 9-11, that’s an army of 5,475. Then, too, there are an estimated 2.9 million Muslims in America. Extremists, worldwide, are estimated to be about ten percent of the overall population. Applied to the U.S., that represents a potential 290,000 American Muslims sympathetic to the Islamist cause. No matter how you slice and dice the numbers, it suggests that a substantial threat exists and is exacerbated by the failure to stop terrorists at our borders.

They constitute a virtual army of terrorists who, if not apprehended, could create a day of havoc from coast to coast when al Qaeda gives the signal. When that day comes, remember that you read about it here first.

Or, as some argue, there’s no proof that any al Qaeda operatives have crossed the border. If, however, any were captured, normal counter-terrorism procedures would be to deny this and seek to extract information from those in custody.The 9-11 operatives were here thanks to sloppy immigration procedures and, in the case of illegal aliens, the estimates are that eight to twelve million live among us. That is a huge margin for error.

The topic the Bush administration wants to stay away from until after November 2, Election Day is immigration. Some have called the Bush administration immigration policies “schizophrenic”, but they are not. They are globalist, i.e., the views of someone for whom national borders should be regarded as outmoded while we all join hands in one big, global neighborhood.

One can understand the “schizophrenic” label, given the hue and cry about Bush’s so-called unilateralism and willingness “to go it alone”, but this is the same administration that supports a variety of policies that are globalist, most of which come straight out of the United Nations. The way civics is taught in our schools today is designed to create generations of globalists for whom our national sovereignty and the Bill of Rights are just a bunch of 18th century “ideas.”

There are a number of problems with this see-no-evil immigration policy. On August 10, Jerry Seper of the Washington Times, reported that, under President Bush’s guest-worker program, “Millions of illegal aliens in the United States would be free from arrest and deportation, have access to tax-deferred savings accounts and Social Security credits, and get unrestricted travel to and from their home countries.” This constitutes a massive dollar transfer to Mexico.

Homeland Security Undersecretary, Asa Hutchinson, responsible for the nation’s borders and transportation security, has apparently lost his senses. In a recently reported response to questions from the Senate Judiciary Committee, Hutchinson supported the Bush immigration policies while acknowledging that the “incentives” being offered illegal aliens are generous to a fault. The National Border Patrol Council that represents 10,000 of the non-supervisory agents called the guest-worker plan a “slap in the face to anyone who has ever tried to enforce the immigration laws of the United States."

In January 2004, the Mexican government acknowledged that the number of their people entering the US illegally had increased 66% from 1990 to 2002. Naturally, Mexico’s president, Vicente Fox, wants Bush to grant de facto amnesty to an estimated eight to eleven million illegal aliens already working in the United States, the majority of whom are Mexican. Amnesty and any other program of this nature is simply a reward for breaking the laws of the United States of America. There are even some voices suggesting they should be given the right to vote!

One little discussed cost of the open door policy being pursued by the Bush administration is the increase in the cost of law enforcement where illegal aliens gather in numbers. Right now, according to Seper, “About 80,000 illegal criminal aliens, including convicted murders, rapists, drug dealers, and child molesters who served prison time and were releases, are loose on the streets of America, hiding from federal immigration authorities.”

They don’t have to hide that hard. According the figures for 2002 from the former Immigration and Naturalization Service and from US Immigration and Customs Enforcement, more than 375,000 known illegal aliens have been ordered deported, but have disappeared pending immigration hearings. Lee Boyd Malvo, the sniper who terrorized the Washington area, was one of them.

Recently, Brazil agreed to step up the policing of the Triple Border Area with Paraguay and Argentina. According to a Washington Times editorial, “It has long been identified as a fund-raising, training and procurement haven for diverse terrorist groups, including al Qaeda and Hezbollah.” The ease with which terrorists could be infiltrated into the US from these South American strongholds cannot be underestimated.

When the facts are examined, there are few good reasons to permit the massive daily influx of Mexicans and other illegal aliens, but there is one very good reason to shut it down completely.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; alqaeda; asahutchinson; border; bushamnesty; caruba; homelandsecurity; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; islam; jihadinamerica; muslims; terrorists; wot
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To: MegaSilver

I saw that "60 Minutes" episode and thought "Man that dude is so fired". Then they had one last year about arming the pilots. There Mineta still was, obstructing progress every way possible and supposedly clueless about the need for it. Today his Democrat butt is STILL THERE! What's the deal, is he holding the FBI files for Hillary? Sheesh.


181 posted on 08/28/2004 10:47:32 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus
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To: airborne

I just saw the new mom and her three doe, I will stick to the fish and vegies. Put my crab rings out and I would be a happy gal. Salmon runs are fantastic as is the OceanPerch.

Probably add goats for milk have to learn how to make feta cheese. : )

The last month I have been walking out front for snacks of plums and blackberries with my Labrador canine companions. Now the apple tree is hanging low with fruit and the two pups jump up and help themselves.


182 posted on 08/28/2004 10:48:51 PM PDT by oceanperch ( 04 Bush.....He will continue to lead America with the Lords Blessing)
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To: Jim Robinson
Congress should pass a law outlawing Islam as a valid religion in the U.S. That ought to solve everything. Ooops. Guess they'll have to repeal the first amendment first.

On one hand, perhaps.

On the other hand, Islam is an expansionist religio-political system basing its theology largely on that of Judaism but drawing its actual identity largely from the darkness of heathan Araby. True confessional Islam does not draw distinctions between religion and politics and does allow for the existance of any system of government or religion but its own. Muslims are commanded to fight against unbelievers until they convert to Islam or (if they are Christians, Jews, or Zoroastrians) quietly submits to the overrule of Islam. A compelling case can be made that Islam in the United States is a fifth column, that the Islamic political ideology is driving those who would destroy us, and that preventing our destruction (by terrorism or other means) should thus involve denying Islam a foothold in the West.

It may not be possible to outlaw the practicing of Islam as a religion, just as it was not possible to forbid membership in the Communist Party in the 1950's. Then, however, as now, we are not powerless. To begin with, we can deny immigration privileges to Muslims. Second, if we show that that Islam is a political body, not merely a religious one, we can argue that Islam has declared war on the United States (since, according to Islamic theology, we are a part of the Dar al-Harb, or House of War). We could then deny zoning permits for Mosques on the grounds that they would constitute embassies for our enemy during wartime. (Admittedly, such solutions are not at present politically viable.)

183 posted on 08/28/2004 10:52:13 PM PDT by MegaSilver
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To: zip; BOBWADE

ping


184 posted on 08/28/2004 10:52:14 PM PDT by Mrs Zip
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To: tpaine
We cannot win if we fight it by being fanatical in return.

I disagree. We stand a much better chance of winning it through commitment and ruthlessness (the western way of war) than the PC, "why do they hate us?", "more sensitive" war approach.

185 posted on 08/28/2004 10:52:34 PM PDT by Publius6961 (I don't do diplomacy either)
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To: NewRomeTacitus

The lease on the two Hermes 450 UAVs expires in a month. I have only seen them occasionally and the numbskulls are flying them at night with the nav beacons on -- in areas that have no other significant air traffic. Might as well put up the Goodyear blimp with its fancy side panel light show.

Speaking of blimps, fellow Freeper AZHSer turned me on to a company that produces excellent tethered blimps at outrageously reasonable prices. The entire rig -- deflated blimp, camera payload, tether assembly and helium tankage would fit on my truck. I can even use the same payload control system as ABP's UAVs...


186 posted on 08/28/2004 10:52:48 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a mean-spirited and divisive loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: Iberian; Jim Robinson
Now we are facing threats we understand but can't control.

Well, all I can tell you is that I and my loved ones haven't been attacked by terrorists. Doesn't that tell you that our president is doing something right?

IMO, 9-11 was a result of 8 years of loafing on National Security issues courtesy of Clinton.

I certainly hope most Americans don't buy into the "sensitive" approach to terrorism that Kerry wants to take.

187 posted on 08/28/2004 10:54:02 PM PDT by LisaMalia (In Memory of Sgt. James W."Billy" Lunsford..KIA 11-29-69 Binh Dinh S. Vietnam)
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To: John Lenin
It's amazing to watch a people give up their culture without a single bullet being fired.

So that's a 'no' on corned beef and cabbage for Sunday dinner then? Darn those Irish.

188 posted on 08/28/2004 10:54:56 PM PDT by asgardshill (The Republican's best weapon lies midway between John Kerry's nose and lower chin.)
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To: MegaSilver
" (Admittedly, such solutions are not at present politically viable.)"

LOL. Looks like your solutions are at least as good as mine. Maybe better.

189 posted on 08/28/2004 10:55:55 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Dane
Uh Joe, there is no outsourcing crisis.

Erm...

And BTW, you are calling for more govt. intrusion in telling businesses how to operate. Quite hypocritical of you, IMO.

The federal government has always had a right to regulate our relations with other nations. Why should it not have the right to do so in matters of commerce? Or are borders and sovereignty just things of the past?

190 posted on 08/28/2004 10:56:36 PM PDT by MegaSilver
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To: Jim Robinson
Can't pee into an arroyo causes there could be endangered species of rare shrimp in there just waiting for water to spring into life.

They can do like I do. Go to the border fence and aim south. No EPA to worry about and it has the added benefit of offending the Mexican military personnel who direct smuggler traffic.

191 posted on 08/28/2004 10:59:38 PM PDT by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a mean-spirited and divisive loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: LisaMalia

I take a nip or two every day from my Aunt's secret recipe for snake bite medicine. Have never been snake bit yet. Definitely works (my Aunt's never been bitten either and she's well up into her 80s).


192 posted on 08/28/2004 10:59:38 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: LisaMalia
IMO, 9-11 was a result of 8 years of loafing on National Security issues courtesy of Clinton.

Your post reminded me of something. How far into Clinton's Presidency was the first WTC bombing?

193 posted on 08/28/2004 11:00:10 PM PDT by Netizen (Abortion is not a choice -- it's murder. The only 'choice' is which method of birth control to use.)
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To: JackelopeBreeder

Better watch them alligators. Chomp. Chomp.


194 posted on 08/28/2004 11:00:46 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
As I stated, they are now affecting every single American in this country.

Well, that makes it even simpler yet. If every American is as ticked off as you and me, it should be a cinch to vote them ALL out. Man this gets easier and easier as it goes.

That's not what I said. I said it was now affecting all American's.

You implied that we should vote them ALL out. I guess that would mean starting a new party, one that would put America and American's first, one that would have our best interest in mind, one where we wouldn't have to beg our own leaders to stop selling our own country out. There are many choices in life, except when it comes to politics. In politics we seem to only have the same old two choices. When it comes to the large issues, those that I mentioned earlier, those two choices seemed to have all but merged.

195 posted on 08/28/2004 11:03:57 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: NewRomeTacitus

Not sure I would consider it such a horrendous threat. I would fear a small group of highly trained terrorists over a massive influx. What exactly can this massive army accomplish? They can barely communicate with each other if at all, they have no support, no weapons to speak of (other than what they can buy, which would certainly set off alarms), no understanding of the culture, and no training. This sounds more like the "Japanese are coming ashore in subs," scare of 1942.


196 posted on 08/28/2004 11:04:58 PM PDT by Casloy
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To: LisaMalia

LisaMalia, I think the prez. is doing everything right.

Those same results of 8 years of "loafing" make our immigration policy look like childs play.

I don't think anyone on this board will vote for Kerry anytime soon, BUT I hope like hell we deal with the immigration issues.


197 posted on 08/28/2004 11:04:59 PM PDT by Iberian
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To: Publius6961
As long as the cult of Islam is regarded as a religion precious little can be done about it under the law.
NewRomeTacitus


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Congress should pass a law outlawing Islam as a valid religion in the U.S. That ought to solve everything.

Ooops. Guess they'll have to repeal the first amendment first.
133 JR


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Publius6961 wrote:
Interesting take on the concept of "religion".
Both Germany and Japan obviously neglected the perfect vehicle for their world adventures in the thirties and forties.
Just think how differently things might have played out if they had simply referred to their aggression, what they did, as their religion.
Then dressed their million man (religious) armies in civilian clothes and sent them overseas as "students" and "tourists".


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Germany & Japan didn't want to destroy our Western 'culture', they wanted to control it, and us.
-- Like it or not, we are in a 'holy war', -- a religious war against fanatics.

We cannot win if we fight it by being fanatical in return.
153 tpaine


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I disagree. We stand a much better chance of winning it through commitment and ruthlessness (the western way of war) than the PC, "why do they hate us?", "more sensitive" war approach.
185 -Pub-


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I have no problem with the "western way of war".
We should go after the fundamentalist leaders, and kill them all. IMO, our politicians are too 'PC', not me.

--- I was referring to being fanatical enough to violate our own Constitutions BOR's, as you well know.  
198 posted on 08/28/2004 11:06:39 PM PDT by tpaine (No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another. - T. Jefferson)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Hey, if they're all so affected, I don't see any reason why we couldn't start a new party. Great idea! Get all the affected-to-the-hilt-aint-gonna-take-it-no-more Republicans and affected-to-the-hilt-aint-gonna-take-it-no-more Democrats together and just start one big happy big tent party. Piece of cake.
199 posted on 08/28/2004 11:09:15 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: pepsionice

"If these folks are in the country...they must be captured or killed"

Captured would do.


200 posted on 08/28/2004 11:18:53 PM PDT by Cedar
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