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Is a Terrorist Army Massing in the U.S.?
MichNews ^ | 08-28-2004 | Alan Caruba

Posted on 08/28/2004 6:49:37 PM PDT by NewRomeTacitus

Is there is an invisible army of terrorists gathering in America today? The mainstream media and the Bush administration do not want to talk about it.

In July, Defense Watch reported that, in Arizona, an area called the Naco Strip has become a primary route of illegal entry by “significant numbers of Arab-speaking males.” It took a small town weekly newspaper, the Tombstone Tumbleweed, to reveal that, “males of possible Syrian and Iranian descent have been detained in the past few weeks.” Since October 1, 2003, 5,510 illegal aliens designated “Other Than Mexican” (OTM) have been apprehended while crossing the Arizona terrain. These OTM’s are not here to pick vegetables, mow lawns, pluck chickens, or wash cars.

Just do the math. If only five Muslim terrorists crossed the border every day for a year that would add up to 1,825 people ready to do the bidding of Osama bin Laden. If this has been going on for just the years since 9-11, that’s an army of 5,475. Then, too, there are an estimated 2.9 million Muslims in America. Extremists, worldwide, are estimated to be about ten percent of the overall population. Applied to the U.S., that represents a potential 290,000 American Muslims sympathetic to the Islamist cause. No matter how you slice and dice the numbers, it suggests that a substantial threat exists and is exacerbated by the failure to stop terrorists at our borders.

They constitute a virtual army of terrorists who, if not apprehended, could create a day of havoc from coast to coast when al Qaeda gives the signal. When that day comes, remember that you read about it here first.

Or, as some argue, there’s no proof that any al Qaeda operatives have crossed the border. If, however, any were captured, normal counter-terrorism procedures would be to deny this and seek to extract information from those in custody.The 9-11 operatives were here thanks to sloppy immigration procedures and, in the case of illegal aliens, the estimates are that eight to twelve million live among us. That is a huge margin for error.

The topic the Bush administration wants to stay away from until after November 2, Election Day is immigration. Some have called the Bush administration immigration policies “schizophrenic”, but they are not. They are globalist, i.e., the views of someone for whom national borders should be regarded as outmoded while we all join hands in one big, global neighborhood.

One can understand the “schizophrenic” label, given the hue and cry about Bush’s so-called unilateralism and willingness “to go it alone”, but this is the same administration that supports a variety of policies that are globalist, most of which come straight out of the United Nations. The way civics is taught in our schools today is designed to create generations of globalists for whom our national sovereignty and the Bill of Rights are just a bunch of 18th century “ideas.”

There are a number of problems with this see-no-evil immigration policy. On August 10, Jerry Seper of the Washington Times, reported that, under President Bush’s guest-worker program, “Millions of illegal aliens in the United States would be free from arrest and deportation, have access to tax-deferred savings accounts and Social Security credits, and get unrestricted travel to and from their home countries.” This constitutes a massive dollar transfer to Mexico.

Homeland Security Undersecretary, Asa Hutchinson, responsible for the nation’s borders and transportation security, has apparently lost his senses. In a recently reported response to questions from the Senate Judiciary Committee, Hutchinson supported the Bush immigration policies while acknowledging that the “incentives” being offered illegal aliens are generous to a fault. The National Border Patrol Council that represents 10,000 of the non-supervisory agents called the guest-worker plan a “slap in the face to anyone who has ever tried to enforce the immigration laws of the United States."

In January 2004, the Mexican government acknowledged that the number of their people entering the US illegally had increased 66% from 1990 to 2002. Naturally, Mexico’s president, Vicente Fox, wants Bush to grant de facto amnesty to an estimated eight to eleven million illegal aliens already working in the United States, the majority of whom are Mexican. Amnesty and any other program of this nature is simply a reward for breaking the laws of the United States of America. There are even some voices suggesting they should be given the right to vote!

One little discussed cost of the open door policy being pursued by the Bush administration is the increase in the cost of law enforcement where illegal aliens gather in numbers. Right now, according to Seper, “About 80,000 illegal criminal aliens, including convicted murders, rapists, drug dealers, and child molesters who served prison time and were releases, are loose on the streets of America, hiding from federal immigration authorities.”

They don’t have to hide that hard. According the figures for 2002 from the former Immigration and Naturalization Service and from US Immigration and Customs Enforcement, more than 375,000 known illegal aliens have been ordered deported, but have disappeared pending immigration hearings. Lee Boyd Malvo, the sniper who terrorized the Washington area, was one of them.

Recently, Brazil agreed to step up the policing of the Triple Border Area with Paraguay and Argentina. According to a Washington Times editorial, “It has long been identified as a fund-raising, training and procurement haven for diverse terrorist groups, including al Qaeda and Hezbollah.” The ease with which terrorists could be infiltrated into the US from these South American strongholds cannot be underestimated.

When the facts are examined, there are few good reasons to permit the massive daily influx of Mexicans and other illegal aliens, but there is one very good reason to shut it down completely.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Mexico; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: aliens; alqaeda; asahutchinson; border; bushamnesty; caruba; homelandsecurity; illegalaliens; illegalimmigration; islam; jihadinamerica; muslims; terrorists; wot
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To: broadsword

Definitely.


261 posted on 08/29/2004 12:50:40 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: broadsword

John Kerry for one.


262 posted on 08/29/2004 12:51:06 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jet Jaguar

9/11 victims have the right to die like the rest of us when it happens to us.

Dying in an act of terrorism is "at will". Anyone of us can die in an act of terrorism.

Remember that dying for your country is to live!!


263 posted on 08/29/2004 12:51:30 AM PDT by Iberian
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To: Jim Robinson
Back to the lawyers.

I hear John Edwards will be available to start chasing ambulances again on Nov. 3.

264 posted on 08/29/2004 12:53:20 AM PDT by LisaMalia (In Memory of Sgt. James W."Billy" Lunsford..KIA 11-29-69 Binh Dinh S. Vietnam)
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To: LisaMalia

J & J Ambulance Co. Beautiful.


265 posted on 08/29/2004 12:54:37 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
John Kerry for one.

OK. He's the most dangerous of them, but what would you like to see done about the rest. How about the open borders? Not everyone who sees this problems is a Bush hater. The border problem is both series and hugh. (OK, I can be silly, too, but only so far. I want to keep my country American and my people alive.)
266 posted on 08/29/2004 12:55:03 AM PDT by broadsword (Let's respect "holy" Muslim sites like they respected those giant Buddhist statues in Afghanistan!)
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To: LisaMalia; All

Speaking of Lawyers:

PORTLAND - The Portland lawyer falsely accused of involvement in the Madrid terrorist bombings is suing the U.S. government.
Brandon Mayfield got a rare apology from the FBI after his release from two weeks of detention.
He's hired Gerry Spence, a well-known celebrity defense lawyer, to represent him.
Spence says the specific charges against the government will be revealed later.
Spence has successfully represented former Philippines first lady Imelda Marcos and plutonium factory worker Karen Silkwood.
Mayfield was arrested by FBI agents on May 6th after his fingerprint was incorrectly matched to ones found on a bag of detonators near a Madrid train station.
The March 11th train bombings in Spain killed 191 people and injured about two thousand more.


267 posted on 08/29/2004 1:00:11 AM PDT by oceanperch ( 04 Bush.....He will continue to lead America with the Lords Blessing)
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To: Jim Robinson
Gosh, that's right. PETA will worry about the big lizards getting their 100% nutritional needs met.

Oh dear. How ever will we supplement their diet?

268 posted on 08/29/2004 1:03:15 AM PDT by bd476
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To: Jim Robinson
Gosh, that's right. PETA will worry about the big lizards getting their 100% nutritional needs met.

Oh dear. How ever will we supplement their diet?

269 posted on 08/29/2004 1:03:27 AM PDT by bd476
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To: NewRomeTacitus

PING


270 posted on 08/29/2004 1:05:51 AM PDT by AnimalLover ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?))
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To: broadsword

I think I posted my recomendations somewhere above. Start by getting thousands and thousands of citizens in every congressional district in every state of the union to assemble and visit their congressional representatives enmasse with petions in hand demanding they enact laws regulating immigration and demanding steps are taken to enforce existing laws. If we can't do that as a minimum, nothing else should be expected to happen.


271 posted on 08/29/2004 1:08:56 AM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: NewRomeTacitus

Wow, this is some thread. Besides alligators or flaming moats, I haven't seen any constructive solutions to the problem outlined in the article.

I hope that my life returns to "normal" here in the very near future. I'm looking towards 2006 and 2008, but for now have to take care of business. We should all put our heads together after the election and discuss candidates who share our views on illegal immigration and securing the border.


272 posted on 08/29/2004 1:09:16 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl ("In the Kingdom of the Deluded, the Most Outrageous Liar is King".)
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To: Jim Robinson
One out of ten US marines have been forced to fill in a survey asking if they'd fire on U.S. citizens. It's coming. Lay in the spam, man.

If I remember correctly, I read about that way back in the days when we could post sound files here LOL. Perhaps around '96 or a bit later in '97 at the latest. It may have been around sooner, but I think I picked up on it here around that time. Maybe it's in the musty archives Jim. As I remember it there was a lot of material posted about that.

I think that Joseph Farah or NewsMax (before it was NewsMax -- I forget the fellow's name that's the honcho over there -- it's late and I'm lazy) also picked up on it as I seem to remember one of them, or both, on Putnam's or Briem's program talking about it.

Wasn't it a classified survey given to the Marines at Twenty-Nine Palms posing a hypothetical question of if, when the citizens were ordered to surrender their arms and they didn't or they were verging on "rebellion", would the service man fire upon the citizens? (OK poor grammar -- sorry but I think you get the drift). Dornan apparently asked either the Marines and/or Navy about the survey and the results and was told they were "classified."

That is if my memory serves me correctly.

273 posted on 08/29/2004 1:13:32 AM PDT by Boomer Geezer (God Bless ALL of our military and Vets -- past and present!)
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To: Jim Robinson
The problem of illegals in the US is due to the deplorable socio-economic problems that exist in their home countries. Until those governments reform and remedy the situation their people will flee. When Vincente Fox was elected, I thought Mexico would have changed for the better for its populace; news & records have disappointed me. The US can't keep up with regime changes but changing the mindset of the Mexican politicians ought to be a priority.
274 posted on 08/29/2004 1:13:57 AM PDT by BIGLOOK (I once opposed keelhauling but have recently come to my senses.)
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To: Jim Robinson
OK. That's cool. I apologize for missing it. I was beginning to think somebody hijacked your keyboard... you know... like those few mean guys hijacked the sweet Religion of Peace.

8o)
275 posted on 08/29/2004 1:15:02 AM PDT by broadsword (Let's respect "holy" Muslim sites like they respected those giant Buddhist statues in Afghanistan!)
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To: TheSpottedOwl

Did you read the article, or simply skim it? If you read the article, under which shrub did you find any truth?


276 posted on 08/29/2004 1:17:32 AM PDT by bd476
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To: All
-Islam, a Religion of Peace®? Some links...--

-Time to kick the tires & light the fires, folks- terrorism gathers across the World...--

-Jihad! Across the World....--

-All Terror, All the Time-- FR's links to NBC Warfare, Terror, and More...--

-IRAQ- some links to terror--

-The Web of Terror--

-Terror Tips--

-The Fire Down South...( Latin America--)--

Castro, the Carribean, and Terrorism

-Terror Strike! Madrid--

Nuclear, Biological, & Chemical Warfare- Survival Skills, Pt. II

-The Poor-Boy Nuke-- Bioterrorism***

-Jemaah Islamiah- Islamic Community, or Islamic Threat?--

277 posted on 08/29/2004 1:18:27 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: Jim Robinson

Oh I forgot to mention -- I think the survey that Dornan was referring to was given in 1994. A previous poster (now that I'm catching up in reading) mentioned an earlier survey, but the one Dornan was briging to light was in 1994 ... I'm almost certain of it.


278 posted on 08/29/2004 1:19:07 AM PDT by Boomer Geezer (God Bless ALL of our military and Vets -- past and present!)
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To: bd476

There is truth in the article, my friend. Please don't let your anger over a few crass lines poison your consideration of the larger issue.

The borders are a problem.

Terrorist cells in this country are a problem.


279 posted on 08/29/2004 1:19:37 AM PDT by broadsword (Let's respect "holy" Muslim sites like they respected those giant Buddhist statues in Afghanistan!)
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To: potlatch
....and I'm hoping Bush will do something when he no longer has to worry about the vote.

Oh, he will. He'll grant amnesty.

280 posted on 08/29/2004 1:20:58 AM PDT by Brownie74
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