Posted on 08/27/2004 6:22:46 PM PDT by Cableguy
Bob Dornan (R) and Pat Kadell (D) were just on Fox's Hannity & Colmes debating Kerry's predicament. Bob Dornan went on a savage attack, showing burned US flag and VC/Communist flags that were burned by Kerry's anti-war group in 1971. Dornan also wanted Fox to have anti-Kerry widows from the Vietnam war. Kadell was actually rational and his analysis I thought were excellent and on point. Kadell bascially said that Kerry/Democrats made a mistake making Kerry's Vietnam service the cornerstone of his campaign instead of talking about the issues.
No, Dornan did not say he still had the film, but how much you want to bet that he does?
And just so I don't mislead anyone, Dornan didn't say he had 8 hours of film, rather he followed Kerry for 8 hours and filmed Kerry. Clear?
Dornan held up a picture of Kerry at the museum in Vietnam with Vietnamese surrounding him. It really wasn't that clear on TV. I do not know the history of the picture.
I have been hoping that someone would produce the picture of the "wall" in that museum that is supposedly dedicated to Kerry's support of the North Vietnamese. Does anyone know if it's ever been published on the any web page?
Kadell bascially said that Kerry/Democrats made a mistake making Kerry's Vietnam service the cornerstone of his campaign instead of talking about the issues.
Too little too late. The lunatic Dem fringe has been skewering Bush on everything (real or imagined) since day one! Kerry can walk up to the plate like a big boy, or run and hide behind various aprons he has available! Does J.F-ing K. even have a CLUE what the REAL issues are? After 19 years in the Senate, one would HOPE! The real issues are socialism, taxation, and the UN....... all of which he seems to support!
Dornan stated that he'd followed Kerry around the day of the VVAW rally in Washington. He had photos that he had taken, and he said he'd also filmed him. He observed them tearing down approximately 50 American flags and urinating on them. And then he waved the North Vietnamese flag, identified it as the flag of a communist nation and that it was flying within feet of Kerry.
I certainly agree, but H&C is the # 1 rated show in that time slot. Lots of people who normally only flip though the channels are now watching to figure out what all the "swift boat vet" thing is all about.
Dornan did not come across as having a full deck.
Caddel looked like crap, he must have some health problems, but come across as logical and clear thinking.
He was sane. He was passionate. He was spot on, and Alan's arguments for Kerry were totally steamrollered. It was most excellent.
Thank you Bob Dornan.
"Dornan held up a picture of Kerry at the museum in Vietnam with Vietnamese surrounding him. It really wasn't that clear on TV. I do not know the history of the picture.
I have been hoping that someone would produce the picture of the "wall" in that museum that is supposedly dedicated to Kerry's support of the North Vietnamese. Does anyone know if it's ever been published on the any web page?"
It is on here, not sure who posted it but its been put on here several times. I will look and see if I can find it for you.
He's never made a comment out of left field in his life. His red, white and blue patriotic blood won't allow it. Out of right field, maybe.
That is so true! You can't play nice with these people. Dornan would not be shut down or silenced, and I, as an American was VERY proud of him tonight. And also of fellow FReeper trueblackman (Kevin) who made an amazing appearance in his segment.
Deep center Field maybe.
I did say a "little" Howard Deanish. Not the full blown ranting nut job we all know Dean is.
You mean to say that nothing he said sounded credible? If so, I disagree with you.
"Glenn who followed is so totally clueless"
Glenn has been clueless since he slipped many years ago in the bathtub and hit his head. Also, remember that he did nothing more in space than the monkey who orbited before he did. Monkey see...
The man was there when kerry BURNED the American flag and hoisted the Vietnamese communist one i dont think he was foaming at the mouth i think he was pissed because he seen what kerry really is and its WRONG for this country.
Bunch of drugged-out, long-haired, commie hippy freaks if I remember right. Just the right kind of company for Kerry. And he'd do the same thing again if we allow it. Only at a higer level.
That's disgusting. I am so beside myself that a traitor can be a presidential candidate, and that the media acts as though it's nothing. I was reading some of the FBI files the other day, and if the public were aware of some of what's in those files, Kerry would be toast. If I can get my hands on those files, professional journalists can, yet we don't hear a peep.
God bless all our vets from Vietnam and other wars, and particularly SBVT, who have put themselves in the line of fire for their country, again.
Agreed, except I disput the number of flags torn down from the building. I could be wrong, but I believe Dornan said 10 flags, although one is one too many.
Also, Dornan showed several communist flags, not just the NVN flag.
I was amazed at Pat's logic in this topic - hadn't seen him in awhile but was pleased that he could see the idiocy of Kerry making Vietnam the center of his campaign. Don't agree with his "we all did something we regret" during that war. ALL seemed like a strange word to use. I don't know the % of those protesting but I believe the majority of us were working daily, paying bills, raising families and watching the news when we got home from work.
I lived in Sacramento at the time and watched Governor Ronald Reagan take on the scum that were screaming their heads off on the college campuses. We haven't gotten rid of THAT generation and here we are raising another like it! Gads! Do we have hope?
He fabricated accusations when he came back from Vietnam when he spoke before the Senate Intelligence Committee when he said that his fellow Vietnam Veterans committed atrocities. He has never provided any proof that his accusations were true, and in fact now admits that his accusations were “over the top”. Over the top? They were untrue!
And his falsifications harmed POW’s, their families, and Vietnam Veterans in general.
POW’s who were in North Vietnam prison camps when Kerry was telling his fabricated stories to the Senate and the American public to bolster his political ambitions were tortured and threatened to be placed on trial as “War Criminals”.
POW’s were told by their captors “You will never go home” because of Kerry’s fabrications. Kerry’s untrue accusations are unforgivable.
General Vo Nguyen Gaip , the Commanding officer of the North Vietnamese Military and Bui Tin who served on the General Staff of the North Vietnam Army and received the unconditional surrender of South Vietnam on April 30, 1975 both claim that North Vietnam was poised to negotiate a surrender because of the Communist’s military failures during the 1968 Tet Offensive and thereafter. But because of the Anti-War movement in America (led by Jane Fonda and John Kerry) they felt that the Demonstrations “gave us confidence that we should hold on in the face of battlefield reverses."
America was kicking the Communist’s butt in every battle. General Westmoreland had the Communist’s number and was winning the war. America’s pullout of Vietnam was due to Kerry and his group of Demonstrators. Kerry’s ant-war activities played a very significant part in causing America to lose the war in Vietnam.
Because of John Kerry and others like him there are more names on the Vietnam Memorial in Washington D. C. than there otherwise would have been. There was also the slaughter of 3.5 million South Vietnamese, Laotians, and Cambodians when America pulled out that is significantly attributable to John Kerry and his now admittedly “over the top” accusations. John Kerry has blood dripping from his untrue accusations.
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