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TWO Russian Airliners Have Crashed.

Posted on 08/24/2004 3:01:38 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55

Per Foxnews Alert. Into the red sea.

60 people aboard the first one.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Political Humor/Cartoons; Russia; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: chechentrash; georgia; plane; planecrash; religionofpeace; russia; russian911; russianplanes; terrorism; war
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To: COEXERJ145
Too many people here want to think that every freaking crash is terrorism.

Please go to "time out" until you can think like an adult.

461 posted on 08/24/2004 4:30:16 PM PDT by Glenn (The two keys to character: 1) Learn how to keep a secret. 2) ...)
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To: cmsgop
Uh Oh.....again.....guess where the missing plane was heading.....Missing Plane bound for Sochi..
462 posted on 08/24/2004 4:30:31 PM PDT by Dog (John Kerry will star in the MASH remake.....playing dual roles of Max Klinger and Frank Burns.)
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To: NJ_gent

What on earth is wrong with people speculating — even if they do so in a declarative way? What skin is it off your nose? I understand your point. However, unlike you and a couple of others on this thread, I just am not exercised over equally understandable speculation as to these being terrorist acts. After all, as noted, even Russian authorities are not ruling out terrorism as of latest reports.


463 posted on 08/24/2004 4:30:31 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Dork, dufus, dolt, dummy, dope, dweeb, Democrat — ain't alliteration grand!)
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To: COEXERJ145

Hey, do us all a favor please. SHUT UP. It's really getting tiresome.


464 posted on 08/24/2004 4:30:37 PM PDT by EggsAckley (........."YO" is "OY" spelled backwards.........)
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To: ChadGore
It quoted the Emergencies Ministry as saying contact with a Tu-154 flying from Moscow to the Black Sea resort of Sochi was lost at 1900 GMT

Do you know what time 1900 GMT is in Moscow local time?

465 posted on 08/24/2004 4:30:46 PM PDT by Momaw Nadon (Goals for 2004: Re-elect President Bush, over 60 Republicans in the Senate, and a Republican House.)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

That is the one that was arrested up north for riding his skateboard.

Apparently, he loved to get into religious or political arguments. We saw a couple skateboard hitchikers on 1 on a trip up Tuesday evening.


466 posted on 08/24/2004 4:30:47 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (https://www.swiftvets.com/swift/ccdonation.php?op=donate&site=SwiftVets)
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To: commish

I presume that's in your best William Shatner angst voice.


467 posted on 08/24/2004 4:30:54 PM PDT by capitan_refugio
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To: ChadGore
Re: I never said it was NOT terrorism

That was referring to today, not Sept. 11th.

And yes, the first plane on Sept. 11th could have easily been an accident.

468 posted on 08/24/2004 4:30:56 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (I Annoy Buchananites)
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To: Peach
I saw that thread you linked. At post 19 on that thread is another link to the Nov. 2003 story which ties George Soros to the Georgian revolt which ousted Shevardnadze.

Same leftist tactics used in Georgia then, organized protests, bussing in demonstrators. Soros funded.

Here's the link to that story

Prairie

469 posted on 08/24/2004 4:31:03 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (John Kerry's new theme song: "Ohh-ho, yes! I'm the Great Pretender...ooh,ooh")
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To: freeperfromnj
I think it's safe to assume this is no coincidence.

Looks that way, based on what we know so far.

470 posted on 08/24/2004 4:31:22 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Dork, dufus, dolt, dummy, dope, dweeb, Democrat — ain't alliteration grand!)
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To: Embedded Freeper

Is there any possibility that we can have James Kalstrom sent to the Russians in order to get things straight?


471 posted on 08/24/2004 4:31:23 PM PDT by blackdog (Hell is an endless hayfield needing to be raked, baled, and put up.)
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To: capitan_refugio

Of Course.


472 posted on 08/24/2004 4:31:40 PM PDT by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: EggsAckley
I don't think you have the power to tell me to stop giving my opinion. This forum doesn't belong to you.
473 posted on 08/24/2004 4:31:50 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (I Annoy Buchananites)
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To: commish
Always wrap them in 2 t-shirts and a pair of Jeans.

Um, why do you think my t-shirts and jeans smell like vodka? :-)

474 posted on 08/24/2004 4:31:56 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Freakazoid

Actually, 7500 is hijack. 7700 is Emergency.


475 posted on 08/24/2004 4:32:27 PM PDT by spodefly (I have posted nothing but BTTT over 1000 times!!!)
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To: MarMema

We need your help.


476 posted on 08/24/2004 4:32:34 PM PDT by cmsgop ( Bong Hits, Fraggle Rock Reruns and DU is no way to go through Life..........)
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To: Diogenesis
This from: http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=6060212
CORRECTED: Russian Plane Crashes, Another Missing
Tue Aug 24, 2004 07:06 PM ET (Corrects number of engines of Tu-134 in second paragraph. Corrects number of engines of Tu-154 in fourth paragraph.)

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Two Russian passenger planes with a total of more than 80 people on board went missing within minutes of each other late on Tuesday and one was confirmed to have crashed, the Emergencies Ministry said.

A ministry spokeswoman said a two-engine Tu-134 with 34 passengers and eight crew flying from Moscow to Volgograd crashed after contact with it was lost at 2256 Moscow time (2:56 p.m. EDT).

The wreckage was found near the town of Tula some 90 miles south of Moscow. Witnesses saw an explosion on board the plane just before it crashed, Interfax news agency quoted local authorities as saying.

Just three minutes later, air traffic controllers lost contact with another passenger plane -- a three-engine Tu-154 with 44 passengers and eight crew on board -- flying from Moscow to the Black Sea resort of Sochi, she said.

Contact was lost as the plane was flying near the southern city of Rostov-on-Don.

Initially, Itar-Tass news agency said that a Tu-154 with 54 passengers and eight crew on board had crashed near Tula.

Tupolev's Tu-154 jet remains the standard medium-range airliner on domestic flights in Russia, according to aviation Web Sites. Some 157 ft in length, it can carry up to 180 passengers for up to 2,500 miles.

© Reuters 2004. All Rights Reserved.


477 posted on 08/24/2004 4:32:48 PM PDT by ChadGore (Vote Bush. He's Earned It.)
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To: JellyJam

Yes. What the air traffic controllers see is actually a return signal from a box called a transponder...it receives the radar signal and sends back a coded burst of information such as altitude, airspeed, etc. The pilots set a four-digit code on the transponder as assigned by ATC.

If they turn off the transponder, then all that controllers will see is the "primary return" of the radar hitting the skin of the plane...just a blip without other information, and maybe not even that if the plane is far from a radar site.

The 9/11 hijackers turned the transponders off on all four aircraft after seizing control. It made it harder for ATC to track them.

}:-)4


478 posted on 08/24/2004 4:32:56 PM PDT by Moose4 (I've got two Viking Kittens locked and loaded, and I'm not afraid to use 'em. Back off!)
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To: Larry Lucido

LOL. I had a couple shirts that smelled like Paulaner Weizen after a trip back from germany.


479 posted on 08/24/2004 4:33:00 PM PDT by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: jriemer

that's the point - that was terrorism, not a double accident.


480 posted on 08/24/2004 4:33:32 PM PDT by oceanview
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