TWO Russian Airliners Have Crashed.

[ConservativeMan55]

Per Foxnews Alert. Into the red sea.

60 people aboard the first one.

[Embedded Freeper]

Some of us believe what we see, not what the government tells us.
Or gov operatives.
My lying eyes.
Right?

[MindBender26]

Michael Rivero!!!!!!!!

Good Gawd. That is a name I haven't thought of in years!!!!

[max_rpf]

Shep teases they are going to bring live coverage from Moscow... We shall see.

[Clive]

That was the famous "Gimli glider" episode.

The drag strip was the runway of an abandoned WWII military training aerodrome.

Still, it was good flying on the part of the captain.

[COEXERJ145]

Anyone claiming it was an accident after the second plane hit the WTC was either misinformed or being stupid. It was obvious to everyone watching that it was a terrorist attack. Hell, I was the first to say on Airliners.net that a second plane had hit the second tower and that it had to be a terrorist attack.

[eno_]

You can turn off the transponder. You can't make that much aluminum invisble.

[BossLady]

Flew some sort of 4-6 person plane from Tahiti to Moorea a few years ago (Moorea was only a few miles away) and they literally had lawn chairs stapled to the floor and no seat belts. At one point the pilot asked me....can you push that big red button there on the panel...I can't reach it! LOL! I took a boat back to Tahiti. ;)

[texasflower]

You have made your point. You are starting to sound a bit like a horses behind.

Maybe it's time to give it up?

[The KG9 Kid]

"... Anything on the weather in the area?"

Today: Scattered parts and low lying coastal black smoke clouds throughout the evening.

Tomorrow: Slightly macabre with a chill wind toward the middle-east.

[shadowman99]

Shep on Fox said an explosion was seen on one of the flights.

[TankerKC]

There are no plausible non-terrorist explanations.

Now, that is silly.

[nw_arizona_granny]

Do you recall Post #3719, at the Threat Matrix, it said that they liked Tuesdays and Fridays for a hit.

[calif_reaganite]

Rostov (URRR) to Athens (ATH) is 1031 statute miles (great circle route) Click here for the map.

[Wolfstar]

I'm no aviation expert either, but don't most airliners fly above all but the worst weather (like hurricanes, which extend into high into the upper atmosphere)? The real point being that even the Russian authorities are not ruling out the possibility of terrorism.

[ChadGore]

The 5 day forcast: Sunshine toward morning with an increasing chance of darkness toward nightfall.

[Camel Joe]

2nd plane is missing and not confirmed down, transponder is turned off... very very bad!!

[discostu]

Actually yes. Numerous studies have been done on the veracity of eye witness testimony and they've all come to the same conclusion: eye witnesses are easily manipulated by slight alterations in how a question is asked or by things over heard and by and large cannot be believed especially not on high profile things that generate lots of confused media chatter. All it takes is for a person who saw the accident to hear on the radio that witnesses saw an explosion for them to have seen an explosion too, even if 5 minutes earlier they didn't think they saw an explosion, even if there never was an explosion to see in the first place.

This isn't to say that you should trust the government, it's just to say that you should use even MORE grains of salt when dealing with "eye witness" testimony than you do the government, the government at least has a plan when they lie to you, eye witnesses might not even know they're lying.

[Joe Hadenuf]

CNN reporting that the first plane had 42 on board, and crashed 26 minutes later, no survivers found, witnesses said explosion before crash, the other aircraft took off moments after the other craft, 52 on board, lost communication just 3 minutes after losing contact with the first aircraft......

I'd be shocked if this wasn't terrorism.

[oceanview]

never in history have two planes that have taken off from the same airport, crashed within minutes of each other.