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TWO Russian Airliners Have Crashed.

Posted on 08/24/2004 3:01:38 PM PDT by ConservativeMan55

Per Foxnews Alert. Into the red sea.

60 people aboard the first one.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Political Humor/Cartoons; Russia; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: chechentrash; georgia; plane; planecrash; religionofpeace; russia; russian911; russianplanes; terrorism; war
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To: TankerKC
Tank, I missed your reply on the other thread because it was pulled before I saw it.
381 posted on 08/24/2004 4:11:21 PM PDT by Clive
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To: 8th Grader

Keeping in mind that many Al Quaida operatives received training by "fighting" in Chechnya... IF this was terrorism, and is claimed by the Chechnyan Terror groups, that does not necesssarily rule out an AQ connection.

Just a thought.


382 posted on 08/24/2004 4:11:53 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (I think the mistake a lot of us make is thinking the state-appointed shrink is our friend.)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

Joe........has the other plane crashed ....or is it still missing.


383 posted on 08/24/2004 4:12:17 PM PDT by Dog (John Kerry will star in the MASH remake.....playing dual roles of Max Klinger and Frank Burns.)
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To: 8th Grader

If indeed there is a second plane (which the Russian government has apparently acknowledged), to believe this is some sort of coincidental accident is drifting into "magic bullet" territory.


384 posted on 08/24/2004 4:12:50 PM PDT by Warren_Piece (Just thinkin' about women and glasses of beer.)
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To: Wolfstar

Shep did mention DHS is keeping a close eye on this.

I would hope so!!!

We had better be checking the baggage very closely.


385 posted on 08/24/2004 4:12:51 PM PDT by WestCoastGal (Jr...."I'm watching it on the big screen right here. BAM! ... Look, there goes my car! Great move!")
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To: COEXERJ145

" And of course people here refuse to realize the truth that eyewitnesses are wrong in almost every crash"

Truth=eyewitnesses are wrong in almost every crash?

What is 'almost every crash'? 90%, 80%, 51%? What study are you citing? How big a sample did that study have? 20 crashes, 30 crashes? without ANY empirical numbers how could anyone say 'almost every crash'?!!!


386 posted on 08/24/2004 4:13:01 PM PDT by Duke of Milan
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To: Camel Joe

Anyone know if any interceptor aircraft have gone up or possibly chasing?


387 posted on 08/24/2004 4:13:01 PM PDT by Calamari (Pass enough laws and everyone is guilty of something.)
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To: Dog

CNN is the only one staying live with this story now.


388 posted on 08/24/2004 4:13:30 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Dog
Joe........has the other plane crashed ....or is it still missing.

Three hours after the crash? You don't think they'd know where it's at by now?

Come on dog.

I vote terrorism.

389 posted on 08/24/2004 4:13:31 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Fitzcarraldo; COEXERJ145

at 1031 miles, three hours or so.

If I understand correctly, though, if the transponder is turned off, the aircraft would still have a radar signature, but lack all the information that the transponder transmits such as altitude, heading, horizontal and vertical speed etc. If it's off the radar completely, it's likely that the plane is down or flying very low, below the radar's reach. The latter is unlikely, since there would be eyewitnesses


390 posted on 08/24/2004 4:13:41 PM PDT by calif_reaganite
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To: Dog

the Chechens do not have a history of attacks against airlines. this is AQ.


391 posted on 08/24/2004 4:14:06 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: 8th Grader
The Chechens are with Al Qaeda.

Al Qaeda is with the Chechens.

Alot of Al Qaeda terrorists fought alongside the Chechens and alot of Chechens are fighting alongside Al Qaeda.

392 posted on 08/24/2004 4:14:18 PM PDT by chantal7
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To: texasflower
Without all the facts!!!!!!!! My, my, my. It appears you are being just a bit hypocritical then, in the way you are treating others who have reached that conclusion of this event.

Uh, no not at all. Think about it for a second. The first plane on Sept. 11th could easily have been an accident. Planes have hit buildings in the past so it was not unheard of. However when a second plane come flying in at close to 600 mph and slams into one of the towers, it is not going to be an accident and a terrorist attack is the only possibility.

393 posted on 08/24/2004 4:14:32 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (I Annoy Buchananites)
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To: Joe Hadenuf

Remember we were missing that A-10 for a long time.


394 posted on 08/24/2004 4:14:34 PM PDT by discostu (That which does not make me stronger kills me)
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To: The Raven
No one went down near tula the other was in radio contact and they lost radio contact, but wreckage has not been found.
395 posted on 08/24/2004 4:14:36 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (GEORGE WASHINGTON is nothing like a communist tyrant as stated by Kerry.)
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To: calif_reaganite
The latter is unlikely, since there would be eyewitnesses

Yes, but we all know that eyewitnesses are wrong in "almost every crash"... ;0)

396 posted on 08/24/2004 4:14:42 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (I think the mistake a lot of us make is thinking the state-appointed shrink is our friend.)
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To: ConservativeMan55
None of the major network websites are running this as their top story. Incredible.

Only FreeRepublic understands what real news is.

397 posted on 08/24/2004 4:14:44 PM PDT by Glenn (The two keys to character: 1) Learn how to keep a secret. 2) ...)
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To: oceanview

CNN moving on to a Howard Dean segment.


398 posted on 08/24/2004 4:14:56 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Joe I think it is terrorism.....I was just wondering if it was still flying.

Next question what is the range of this aircraft with a full load of fuel.

399 posted on 08/24/2004 4:15:14 PM PDT by Dog (John Kerry will star in the MASH remake.....playing dual roles of Max Klinger and Frank Burns.)
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To: Dog
Whoops, make that: Three hours after the aircraft turned up missing? You don't think they'd know where it's at by now?

Come on dog.

I vote terrorism.

400 posted on 08/24/2004 4:15:24 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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