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1 posted on 08/11/2004 7:08:08 AM PDT by The Wizard
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can I have an Amen


2 posted on 08/11/2004 7:08:33 AM PDT by The Wizard (DemonRATS: enemies of America)
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To: The Wizard

No.

It will be Washington, REAGAN, and Bush 43.

Don't include that liberal scumbag Lincoln in with the great presidents.


3 posted on 08/11/2004 7:09:48 AM PDT by HawkeyeLonewolf
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To: The Wizard

Right, but remember what happened to Winston Churchill in 1945.


4 posted on 08/11/2004 7:10:04 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves
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I believe you're right Wiz. From laying the groundwork for a democratic middle east, to destroying radical Islam, to revitalizing the economy, his presidency will be recorded as one of historic proportions. And that is indeed why they hate him so.


7 posted on 08/11/2004 7:14:25 AM PDT by The G Man (This election is a choice between a War on Terror and a Negotiation with Terror.)
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To: The Wizard
There will never be peace in the Middle East.

But I still hope that Reagan and Dubya end up on the Truly Great list.

11 posted on 08/11/2004 7:23:25 AM PDT by meowmeow
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To: The Wizard

Good article. You're right. George W. Bush will be considered one of the greatest President of the United States.


24 posted on 08/11/2004 7:38:42 AM PDT by Reader of news
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To: hole_n_one

You know where to look for the best part of this thread...


27 posted on 08/11/2004 7:41:03 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: The Wizard

Just FYI, it happened again.

I saw that thread-title, and thought: "That sounds like a The Wizard title!"

You have a style, and I'm onto it!

(c;

Dan


30 posted on 08/11/2004 7:43:31 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: The Wizard

The emancipation proclamation freed no one. The southern states had seceeded from the union (a right all states took as given by the way). As such, the union had no authority over the southern states, that is until they were forced back "into the fold" by military force. I can see Washington and Bush 43 in 25 years as being the great ones, but including lincoln is reprehensible.

See "THE REAL LINCOLN" Thomas DiLorenzo for information on just how much damage 16 did to the constitution!


34 posted on 08/11/2004 7:49:15 AM PDT by petro45acp ("Government might not be too bad...................if it weren't for all the polititians!")
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To: The Wizard

LOL


38 posted on 08/11/2004 7:53:17 AM PDT by Protagoras (" I believe that's the role of the federal government, to help people"...GWB, 7-23-04)
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keep your powder dry


51 posted on 08/11/2004 8:07:25 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: The Wizard

"We're not worthty....we're not worthy"


55 posted on 08/11/2004 8:10:49 AM PDT by GSWarrior
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To: The Wizard

I saw a tv show where the prez was talking to group of people about his policies. (this was on Monday night) He was amazing! I was very proud of him. The looks on the faces of these people was one of awe. This guy will go down in history as one the greats.


83 posted on 08/11/2004 8:50:26 AM PDT by 12.7mm
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Your view is a bit like that of Woodrow Wilson's admirers. In the end, they said, Wilson's vision of world peace through international organization would be vindicated, and make him one of the greatest of Presidents. But the problem was that Wilson did so many things wrong in his own day and made so many mistakes that he didn't bring the realization of his vision any closer to realization.

Had Wilson stayed out of foreign affairs and not made Americans pay the costs of war would we be any further from "world peace" than we were after Wilson led us into war? And "world peace" is itself something of an illusory goal, since peace is likely to be lost or partial, a truce between wars, rather than something whole and permanent. The same may be true of peace and democracy in the Middle East: achievements may only be temporary, and easily reversed when the outsiders who bring them turn away from the region.

I don't say that Bush is another Woodrow Wilson or that he's made the same sort of mistakes or that our situation now is the same as it was eighty or ninety years ago. But good intentions and distant visions aren't enough. Presidents have to look at the way things are, and make the right choices for the short and middle term as well as the long run. To be sure, most politicians make the opposite mistake and don't see past their own reelection, but doing the opposite and neglecting present circumstances to realize a vision of the future is no guarantee of success either.

98 posted on 08/11/2004 9:27:38 AM PDT by x
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I've always thought that history will look favorably upon President Bush 43. He will be remembered as a hero for taking a stand against strong opposition (at home and abroad). His birthday will be a national holiday one day and future politicians will be quoting his words. IMHO


100 posted on 08/11/2004 9:32:16 AM PDT by toomanygrasshoppers ("Hold on to your hats.....it's going to be a bumpy night")
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To: msdrby

ping


119 posted on 08/11/2004 10:43:44 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (I don't have a bald spot. I'm simply outgrowing my hair.)
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To: The Wizard

Wizard, that was beeeeautiful! What an up-lifting post! *~*


125 posted on 08/11/2004 11:06:44 AM PDT by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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***Fact: In 25 Years It Will Be Washington, Lincoln And Bush 43***

You seem to have a very loose grasp on what constitutes a "fact"... according to Merriam Webster: a thing done or an actual occurrence.

I'm glad you're a fan, but let's not go overboard. Reagan single-handedly defeated a comparable superpower in the best way possible: without risking the lives of millions of young men... and he may never be uttered in the same breath as Washington and Lincoln. Bush43 overwhelmed an already-weakened Iraq and a desolate Afghanistan... not the stuff of legend. (Can you recall which president beat up on withering Spain and took numerous valued territories?)

Unless devastating attacks on the scale of 9-11 continue (and of course nobody outside of Kerry-supporters hopes for that), Bush's (potential) defeat of the Jihadists will never be seen as a major accomplishment.

As for peace in the Middle East, you're simply dreaming. The utter conquest of the region has never successfully brought peace. Installing a few fragile democracies won't do it either. Anything short of annihilation or the Rapture will likely fail as well. The successful implementation of strong democracies in the region would be credited to those "Founding Fathers" that forge them... not the outsider who helped out against significant political pressure. (Do we pay homage to the French - and numerous others across the globe - for their help in distracting vast portions of the British Army during the mid 1770's?)

134 posted on 08/11/2004 11:27:16 AM PDT by Teacher317
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Wow, that's a reach there, Wiz.


139 posted on 08/11/2004 11:32:13 AM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: The Wizard

Agree with your predictions!


187 posted on 08/11/2004 12:24:45 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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