THE POINT OF NO RETURN - WHO'S KERRY? (by retired Admiral and Senator Jeremiah Denton)

Vets Against Kerry website ^ | 3-7-07 | Jeremiah Denton

[gov_bean_ counter]

I came to the party a little later than you. My folks worked the Goldwater campaign in LA and helped get Jack Edwards, Bill Dickinson and the Buchanan dolt elected to the US House.

You can understand why I now have to hold my nose and vote for Shelby for the good of the party. The campaign he ran against Denton was one of the nastiest I have ever seen.

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

"I spoke with his office today before posting this. John Kerry has no idea of the tsunami coming at him. Veterans are very, very, very angry and will not allow this man who turned on his country and fellow comrades in arms to become the commander in chief. They are determined."

Tsunami PING!!!

[LadyPilgrim]

He is a very humble and valiant man!

My heart broke for him even before I knew who he actually was.
I remember him from the Vietnam war and when he was set free. Then of course, they made the movie about him.

When he started to run for the Senate, here in Alabama, there was no way I couldn't help him.

Sadly he didn't stay in politics very long. He had health issues to deal with. But he stood for right while he was there.

We here in Alabama felt very honored to have him as our Senator!

God Bless Jeremiah Denton.

[Trust but Verify]

Who cares what veterans have to say? We want to hear what Natalie Portman and John Cusack have to say!

/sarcasm

[LadyPilgrim]

Well yes, it was. That's politics.

But keep holding your nose and cast that straight ticket.
Shelby is now one of us!!!

[netmilsmom]

>>God Bless Jeremiah Denton.<<

Amen!!!

[CyberCowboy777]

Last night NBC local affiliate KGW in Portland, OR ran a segment on Viet Nam veterans and John Kerry.

It was actually very good and interviewed a Oregon resident and Viet Nam vet who has a anti-kerry web-site.

They even shown the famous picture of Kerry with the Swift Boat captains and the edited version with the only two who support Kerry.

I am requesting the segment or transcript and will post when I get it.

[Conspiracy Guy]

Kerry 2004

I want to be the President,
Though all know I can’t lead.
I really want the power though,
It’s really what I need.
I’ll lie and cheat and fabricate,
I’ll flip and flop for sure.
The left’s so dumb they’ll vote for me,
For stupid, there’s no cure.
George Bush lied, I’ll chant and sing,
Though I know it’s not true.
I love America I’ll say,
Another lie for you.
I’ll back the UN’s global push,
No sovereignty for us.
The world rides free at our expense,
We’ll even buy the bus.
Let terror rain down on this land,
We really are to blame.
Oh yes, I fought in Viet Nam,
Four months, then home I came.
Three Purple Hearts for paper cuts,
Like some rite of passage.
You bet my name’s John Kerry,
And I approve this message.

Conspiracy Guy 7/30/2004

[Alberta's Child]

I stand in awe at this man's service record in the U.S. Navy -- he is one undoubtedly of the greatest Americans of the 20th century.

[lugsoul]

Shelby savaged him. I'm still amazed that no one seem to care very much at the time.

[doug from upland]

I know that Hillary's plan is for 2008. What she is doing behind the scenes only the Clintons know.

[doug from upland]

Is part of that film available? I want it.

[doug from upland]

Thanks for the great link.
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When John Kerry Slandered Me

Today, Senator John Kerry made a remarkable demand in this, an early political season for remarkable statements. Senator Kerry Challenges President Bush to Debate on Vietnam Service.

Flashback. Thirty-three years ago, in April, 1971, John Kerry and I had important months. In April, 1971, I was in the first month of my second deployment to Vietnam with the US Navy. That month my logbook shows 69.7 flight hours. That month my crew and I flew ten missions in support of Operation Market Time. On these flights we flew our unarmed P-3B airplane on “tracks” – flight paths during which we descended to within 200 feet of the water and, after fixing the contact’s position, speed, and course, took multiple photo runs to record a ship’s on-deck cargo, electronics, and weaponry. Sometimes the contacts turned out to be neutral freighters or US warships. Sometimes they turned out to be Soviet bloc ships or our primary targets, Chinese or North Vietnamese ships trying to sneak weapons into South Vietnam with which to arm the enemy. When we came across such a ship, sometimes they tried to shoot us down. We had nothing with which to shoot back since Secretary of Defense McNamara had prohibited us from carrying any weapons of self-defense (even pistols for our survival vests) in an attempt to appease the enemy and “facilitate the peace talks.” The weapons carried by the ships we aided in sinking never made it into enemy hands. In this way we saved the lives of our service comrades.

April, 1971, was also a big month for Former-Lieutenant John Kerry, who had recently resigned his commission so as to be able to brand my shipmates and me monsters. During the so-called “Winter Soldier Investigation” hearings before Congress, Kerry said,

“I would like to talk, representing all those veterans, and say that several months ago in Detroit, we had an investigation at which over 150 honorably discharged and many very highly decorated veterans testified to war crimes committed in Southeast Asia, not isolated incidents but crimes committed on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command....

“They told the stories at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country.

“We call this investigation the "Winter Soldier Investigation." The term "Winter Soldier" is a play on words of Thomas Paine in 1776 when he spoke of the Sunshine Patriot and summertime soldiers who deserted at Valley Forge because the going was rough.

“We who have come here to Washington have come here because we f eel we have to be winter soldiers now. We could come back to this country; we could be quiet; we could hold our silence; we could not tell what went on in Vietnam, but we feel because of what threatens this country, the fact that the crimes threaten it, not reds, and not redcoats but the crimes which we are committing that threaten it, that we have to speak out…”

Congress, to its everlasting shame, demanded no proof of these allegations but let them fester in the then-political atmosphere of running as fast as we could to abandon our allies in Vietnam and the rest of Southeast Asia. Subsequent writings by high-ranking communist officials and generals forthrightly thank Mr. Kerry for helping them achieve their subsequent military victory in Vietnam, and realizing the deaths of at least two-and-a-half million of their own people who were deemed "unnecessary" for the future.

Today, to add further insult to injury, Mr. Kerry harps upon his curiously brief service in Vietnam while assiduously censoring any mention of his activities afterwards in which he blood-libeled my shipmates. Daily, Michael Moore and his other surrogates screech that President Bush “dodged the draft” by joining the National Guard and that he “deserted” from the Guard because 30+-year-old Guard records are incomplete (thereby demonstrating his ongoing total ignorance of the military and the vicissitudes of military paperwork). Then, he demonstrates an utter lack of shame in today scolding George Bush, “America deserves a better debate. If you want to debate the Vietnam era, and the impact of our experiences on our approaches to presidential leadership, I am prepared to do so. ..” Mr. Kerry dragged Vietnam into this campaign and now whines that somehow George Bush is at fault for bringing it up.

My shipmates and I served honorably in Vietnam and returned home, almost to a man, to resume normal lives, start families and businesses, get civilian jobs, pursue further education … all the normal stuff that veterans have been doing since after the Revolutionary War. That Mr. Kerry, a former naval officer and fellow Vietnam veteran, would say such things about us remains an indelible stain upon his name and honor. Mr. Kerry has disgraced himself, by action and word, showing the whole world that he is foremost a career minded, self-centered opportunist, abetted by situational morality and driven by a lust for personal fortune at any cost. If he had any sense of honor, before he ran for the presidency, he would not attack Mr. Bush but would first apologize to my shipmates, the rest of the US armed forces, and then to the American public, for they deserve far better than anything this stained, pitiful man has to offer.

Ken Sherman

CDR, US Naval Reserve (Retired)

North Grafton, MA

[Bob]

Yes- also Adm Denton was the speaker that the State of California Assembly refused...

A minor correction:

Yes- also Adm Denton was the speaker that the democRATs in the State of California Assembly refused...

He was invited by the Republicans and refused by the democRATs.

[E.G.C.]

BTTT!!!!!!

[Chieftain]

To put it bluntly, John Kerry exemplifies the very reasons that I switched to the Republican Party. Like the majority in his political party, he has proven by his words and actions that his list of priorities -- his ideas on what most needs to be done to improve this country -- are almost opposite to my own.

We have to expose the truth about sKerry to every person we know.

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

Why do the TV and Cable Newsrooms
hide Hanoi Kerry's past?

"It is a fact that in the entire Vietnam War we did not lose one major battle.
We lost the war at home and at home John Kerry was the field general"

- Bob Elder, Swift Boat Veteran For Truth

DD 214 shows 17 Feb 72 terminal date of Reserve Obligation.

http://www.johnkerry.com/pdf/jkmilservice/DD214.pdf

Kerry's anti war activities were doing this period!

What is Senator John Kerry's relationship to VVAW?
http://www.vvaw.org/faq/#4

Since Vietnam Veterans Against the War's inception in 1967, tens of thousands of vets, GIs and supporters have participated in and supported the actions of VVAW. One of those members in the early 1970s was John Kerry. Kerry was appointed to the VVAW Executive Committee to assist in preparing Dewey Canyon III, VVAW's limited incursion into the land of Congress in 1971 (Nicosia, 98-99). Kerry made his greatest contribution to the anti-war movement and to VVAW in his speech to the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations on April 23, 1971 (Brinkley, 371-373: Hunt, 109-110; Nicosia, 136-138; Wells, 495).
Content of the speech is found at: http://lists.village.virginia.edu/sixties/HTML_docs/Resources/Primary/Manifestos/VVAW_Kerry_Senate.html.
By 1972, John Kerry had moved on from VVAW (Brinkley, 406: Hunt, 127-128; Nicosia, 211).
He was not one of the original founding members of VVAW in 1967.

Hanoi Kerry flew Viet Cong flag
while US troops died in Viet Nam

Kerry Fitness Reports in Vietnam
Show Him Unfit for Command
(Explodes Central Kerry Campaign Lie)



VVAW supported demonstration, Washington Spring Offensive, April - May 1971

Kerry was a supporter of the "People's Peace Treaty," a supposed "people's" declaration to end the war, reportedly drawn up in communist East Germany.

It included nine points, all of which were taken from Viet Cong peace proposals at the Paris peace talks as conditions for ending the war.

One of the provisions stated: "The Vietnamese pledge that as soon as the U.S. government publicly sets a date for total withdrawal [from Vietnam], they will enter discussion to secure the release of all American prisoners, including pilots captured while bombing North Vietnam."

In other words, Kerry and his VVAW advocated the communist line to withdraw all U.S. troops from Vietnam first and then negotiate with Hanoi over the release of prisoners. Had the nine points of the "People's Peace Treaty" favored by Kerry been accepted by American negotiators, the United States would have totally lost all leverage to get the communists to release any POWs captured during the war years.



Vice President Spiro T. Agnew said that Kerry, "who drew rave notices in the media for his eloquent testimony before Congress," was using material ghosted for him by a former Kennedy speech writer (Adam Walinsky).

Picture #2, VVAW supported demonstration during the Washington Spring Offensive, April - May 1971.

Notice the North Vietnamese and Viet Cong flags.

[Interesting Times]

John Kerry has no idea of the tsunami coming at him. Veterans are very, very, very angry and will not allow this man who turned on his country and fellow comrades in arms to become the commander in chief. They are determined."

I think the Kerry campaign does have some idea what's coming, and that the wrap-me-in-the-flag nonsense in Boston was an attempt to defuse it. Now the focus of the battle shifts to the old media versus the new. The question now becomes whether the fading networks still have enough power to sell Kerry's lies to the public in the face of this onslaught by angry veterans and their supporters.

[CyberCowboy777]

So far no luck, KGW made sure the story about Jim Rassmann is on the web-site: http://www.kgw.com/politics/stories/072904ccjpConvOreRassmann.2776cbf9.html

But the other story, with the multible Vet who do not support Kerry is no where to be found.

I just got this email when I requested the video:

"Unfortunately, KGW does not provide transcripts of on-air stories.
You can purchase a copy of any recently aired, local news story by calling
Portland Media Monitor at 503-591-5600."

[chilepepper]

Let Jeremiah Denton speak at the Republican convention!!!