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HAS SANDY BERGER BEEN CLEARED?

Posted on 07/30/2004 3:19:48 AM PDT by itsinthebag

I just heard on the radio news that Sandy Berger has been cleared of any wrongdoing. Apparently the National Archives is saying that all documents have been accounted for. Has anyone else heard this? And no, this should not be posted under humor! I'm serious, I really did hear this on the morning news just now. WMAL 6:30 here in Washington, D.C., the Fred Gandy Show.


TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: cya; nara; sandyberger; tomdavis
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To: Diogenesis
I think they're waiting till after the election. I don't believe there's a statute of limitations on treason :)
41 posted on 07/30/2004 4:10:42 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: leadpenny

LOL! Trust me. If Fred Grandy and Susan Collins were married to each other they would have nothing to argue about.


42 posted on 07/30/2004 4:11:04 AM PDT by BufordP (FLASH! Bush rumored to drop Cheney from ticket. Log Cabin Republicans respond: "WE WANT DICK!")
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To: Diogenesis
Your graphic is amusing, but if Berger was involved in altering and/or destroying top secret records, it was probably for something more damning than a judgment call about how to handle Bin Ladin pre-911. It's more likely that it was to cover something up that was criminal in nature.
43 posted on 07/30/2004 4:13:20 AM PDT by independentmind
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44 posted on 07/30/2004 4:13:27 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: BufordP

They could do a "Love Boat" sequel.


45 posted on 07/30/2004 4:13:43 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: mewzilla
America is at war.
Thus, one could reasonably argue that President Bush owes it to America
to arrest traitors NOW, TODAY.
Is the election a reason to encourage treason and CODE-levWhy?

And what happens if the DNC holds sway after the election?

46 posted on 07/30/2004 4:15:35 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Re: Protection from up on high, Keyser Sose has nothing on Sandy Berger, the DNC Burglar)
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To: BufordP
Since I don't have a WSJ subscription, I will ask you if anywhere in that article it says that he was cleared of removing classified documents from a secure location.

There are two parts to this: one is whether he withheld things from the commission. (This does not, of course, cover the fact that he may have ADDED things to the documents which were given to the commission.)

The second part is whether he broke security laws by removing the documents. This is beyond dispute; he has already confessed to doing so.

47 posted on 07/30/2004 4:18:24 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: independentmind

Virtually everything Clinton did was criminal in nature.


48 posted on 07/30/2004 4:18:58 AM PDT by livius
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To: Diogenesis

Look at it this way. If, God forbid, 43 loses, they can still charge Berger and co. and leave Hamster Breath with a judicial and political nightmare to deal with upon taking the oath.


49 posted on 07/30/2004 4:19:04 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Miss Marple
The second part is whether he broke security laws by removing the documents. This is beyond dispute; he has already confessed to doing so.

And given what you have to do in order to get access to docs this secret, the inadvertance defense won't wash, either.

50 posted on 07/30/2004 4:21:16 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: livius

Which is what makes this story so interesting. I still want to know if Berger's motive was to remove copies because the originals had been altered. (P.S. Things like this actually happen in real life.)


51 posted on 07/30/2004 4:22:05 AM PDT by independentmind
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To: Miss Marple
Good thing he was only destroying CODE-level documents
and not jay-walking or smoking a joint.


52 posted on 07/30/2004 4:23:00 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Re: Protection from up on high, Keyser Sose has nothing on Sandy Berger, the DNC Burglar)
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To: Miss Marple

Unfortunately I don't have a subscription either. I'm hoping someone on this thread does and would use the link and get back on this.


53 posted on 07/30/2004 4:23:49 AM PDT by BufordP (FLASH! Bush rumored to drop Cheney from ticket. Log Cabin Republicans respond: "WE WANT DICK!")
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To: itsinthebag

Gandy was not a staunch conservative. He was a girlyman dipstick who redmeat Republicans can be happy is quit of the House of Representatives.


54 posted on 07/30/2004 4:26:12 AM PDT by gaspar
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To: Diogenesis
HAS he been cleared of all possible charges? I doubt that.

Comments from the 9/11 commission that they think he didn't withhold anything and comments from the Archives that all items have been returned (nevermind about the ones he ADMITS to "inadvertently discarding") do not constitute clearing him of all charges.

55 posted on 07/30/2004 4:27:45 AM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: leadpenny
hehe. Read post 54
56 posted on 07/30/2004 4:28:59 AM PDT by BufordP (FLASH! Bush rumored to drop Cheney from ticket. Log Cabin Republicans respond: "WE WANT DICK!")
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To: Diogenesis

The Federal labor rules protect the "we were here first" crowd. It takes more than four years to root them out. There is a very large cohort reaching retirement age in the next four years.

Ted Kennedy told the Democrat National Convention: "The only thing we have to Fear is Four More Years of George W Bush!" Lets make their worst fears come true.


57 posted on 07/30/2004 4:29:35 AM PDT by SubMareener
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To: independentmind

Yes, they do happen. BTW, I read that other copies of some of the documents had been obtained from the Clinton Library when investigators were trying to figure out what had happened. So it appears that there was another set of these documents (or at least some of them).


58 posted on 07/30/2004 4:29:36 AM PDT by livius
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To: Diogenesis

I'll bet 900 FBI files that this quietly goes away.


59 posted on 07/30/2004 4:31:22 AM PDT by RedwM
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To: itsinthebag

If you rob a bank, get caught, and then give the money back are you no longer a bank robber?


60 posted on 07/30/2004 4:31:29 AM PDT by Feckless
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