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Kerry Trails Bush in Electoral Votes
Yahoo (AP) ^ | 7/24/04 | RON FOURNIER

Posted on 07/24/2004 2:13:59 PM PDT by The_Victor

BOSTON - John Kerry (news - web sites) narrowly trails President Bush (news - web sites) in the battle for the 270 electoral votes needed to win the White House, as he makes his case at the Democratic National Convention this week to topple the Republican incumbent. Tall hurdles remain in his path, including Electoral College (news - web sites) math that favors Bush.

With three months remaining in a volatile campaign, Kerry has 14 states and the District of Columbia in his column for 193 electoral votes. Bush has 25 states for 217 votes, according to an Associated Press analysis of state polls as well as interviews with strategists across the country.

"It's a tough, tough map. I think it's going to be a close race," said Democratic strategist Tad Devine, who helped plot Al Gore (news - web sites)'s state-by-state strategy in 2000 and plays the same role for Kerry.

"But looking back four years, we're much stronger now. I think we're going into this convention in great shape," he said.

Both candidates are short of the magic 270 electoral votes. The margin of victory will come from:

_TOSSUPS — Bush and Kerry are running even in 11 states with a combined 128 electoral votes. Florida, Ohio, Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, Wisconsin, Michigan and West Virginia are the toughest battlegrounds. Two other tossups, Pennsylvania and Oregon, could soon move to Kerry's column.

_LEAN KERRY — Maine, Minnesota and Washington (a combined 25 electoral votes) favor Kerry over Bush by a few percentage points. Gore carried them in 2000.

_LEAN BUSH — North Carolina, Colorado, Louisiana, Arizona, Virginia, Arkansas and Missouri (a combined 73 electoral votes) give Bush modest leads. He won all seven in 2000.

All total, 21 states are in play. Some will bounce between "lean" to "tossup" throughout the campaign.

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Four years ago, Bush won 30 states and their 271 electoral votes — one more than needed. Gore, who won the popular vote, claimed 20 states plus the District of Columbia for 267 electoral votes.

Since then, reapportionment added electoral votes to states with population gains and took them from states losing people. The result: Bush's states are now worth 278 electoral votes and Gore's are worth just 260.

Even if Kerry consolidates Gore's states, no easy task, the Democrat must take 10 electoral votes from Bush's column to close the electoral vote gap.

Kerry's best prospects may be in the five tossup states won by Bush in 2000: Ohio, Florida, Nevada, New Hampshire and West Virginia.

Winning either Ohio's 20 electoral votes or Florida's 27 would do the trick.

Bush easily won Ohio in 2000, but its lagging economy puts the state in play. Kerry must still reduce Bush's advantages among conservative, rural voters. Florida should favor Bush a bit more than in 2000, partly because of its relatively strong economy, but the war in Iraq (news - web sites) has helped keep the race close.

Nevada and West Virginia have a combined 10 electoral votes, enough to close the gap. New Hampshire, which neighbors Kerry's home state of Massachusetts, has four.

 

West Virginia voted Democratic for decades until Bush made values an issue in 2000; Kerry is stressing the theme this year. In Nevada, an influx of Hispanics and the administration's push to use Yucca Mountain as a nuclear waste site make the state tougher for Bush than in 2000.

Six of the 11 tossup states were won by Gore: Pennsylvania, Oregon, Michigan, Iowa, New Mexico and Wisconsin. But the margin of victory was just a few thousand votes in Iowa, New Mexico and Wisconsin — meaning Kerry has his work cut out to keep them.

Of the three, Bush likes his chances best in Wisconsin, where he is targeting rural voters in a bid to widen the electoral gap by 10 votes.

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Flush with money and leading a united party, Kerry increased his odds by expanding the playing field into a handful of GOP states that Bush easily won in 2000, including Arkansas, Louisiana, Arizona, Virginia and Colorado. Results have been mixed.

After testing the waters, Kerry pulled his ads from Arkansas and Louisiana, and downgraded his focus on Virginia and Arizona. Hispanic voters make Colorado a prime target, but Democrats acknowledge it's a tough state to win.

"The race is still fundamentally tied, and the Electoral College map reflects that," said Bush strategist Matthew Dowd. "But there is beginning to be a slight tilt toward us with Arkansas, Tennessee, Missouri and Arizona no longer being seriously contested."

Kerry added another Republican-leaning state to his target list when he chose Sen. John Edwards (news - web sites) of North Carolina as his running mate. Aides are divided over whether North Carolina will remain a battleground through November, but its 15 electoral votes are too tempting to ignore.

Missouri, a traditional battleground, recently moved to the Bush-leaning category and is being written off by some Democrats. The Kerry campaign reduced its ad campaign in the state after polls showed him consistently 4 to 6 percentage points behind Bush, with little room for improvement.

Republican advantages in rural Missouri and the fast-growing exurbs make the state tough for Democrats, but Kerry will likely keep it on the table through November in case the political winds shift. Besides, abandoning a traditional battleground would be embarrassing.

The four-term Massachusetts senator has begun to gather strength in traditionally Democratic states such as Maine, Minnesota and Washington. All were tossups in the spring, but now lean toward Kerry. A good convention could push Pennsylvania and Oregon into the lean-Kerry category.

Recent polls give Kerry an edge in both states, but strategists for Kerry and Bush say the races are still tossup.

"There is an angry feeling toward the incumbent because of Iraq," said David Sweet, who managed Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell's 2000 campaign. "I think Kerry will win in the end, but that's partly based on an assumption of things to come. It's close."

Of the states won by Gore, Pennsylvania is by far Bush's top target. The president has spent millions of dollars in the state on commercials and has visited it more than any other contested state — 30 trips since his inauguration.

For Kerry, losing Pennsylvania would create a virtually insurmountable electoral vote gap.

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On the Net:

http://www.johnkerry.com

http://www.georgewbush.com



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DEFINETLY JOINED AT THE HIP

21 posted on 07/24/2004 5:11:44 PM PDT by Smartass ( BUSH & CHENEY IN 2004 - Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió.)
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To: Smartass

I thought they were connected by union joints


22 posted on 07/24/2004 5:23:52 PM PDT by Lady Jag (Googolplex Star Thinker of the Seventh Galaxy of Light and Ingenuity)
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To: Lady Jag
As fond and touchy as they are toward one another, explains
why they didn't show up to vote on the "Marriage" bill.



23 posted on 07/24/2004 5:38:05 PM PDT by Smartass ( BUSH & CHENEY IN 2004 - Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió.)
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To: The_Victor; All
Why do the TV and Cable Newsrooms
hide Hanoi Kerry's past?

24 posted on 07/24/2004 5:50:21 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Kerry is a traitor!)
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To: The_Victor

I found this today
not too sure of its accuracy
for all I know it could be right on.
I hope not

http://www.electoral-vote.com/


25 posted on 07/24/2004 5:50:38 PM PDT by Rightly Biased (I'll vote Republican till the day I die then I'll vote democrat.)
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To: unspun

You make some VERY valid points!

Thanks!


26 posted on 07/24/2004 5:53:59 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Kerry is a traitor!)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
And hopefully, Bush-Rove will not bother spending in California as they did in 2000.

Yep. If they had spent that money and time in FL instead it would not have been close. The election would have been decided by 9pm in November of 2000.

27 posted on 07/24/2004 6:01:58 PM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (An optimist believes we live in the best of all possible worlds, a pessimist fears this is true.)
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To: Smartass

Thanks for the ping!


28 posted on 07/24/2004 10:41:26 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: unspun; The_Victor; Davis; southernnorthcarolina; Porterville; Stepan12; Christian Muniz

Your scenarios and the comments to them are all well and good, but I really see this election being about something much more fundamental.

George Bush and John Kerry represent two totally different paths. For all of the exagerated rhetoric here at FR about traitors and what-not this split has happened at previous times in US history.

The choice of direction is then often made as a result of events and the most likely catalyst this time will be a terrorist attack.

However, assuming that no dramatic and unpredictable event changes the election, the electorate, as they consider the issues, will ultimately make an econmic decision.

The primary choice, IMHO is about wealth redistribution.

Do the majority of Americans feel that there are too few persons with power and are they willing to vote in individuals who claim they will redistribute it? Or do the American people realize that the road to universal wealth and prosperity is paved by the very wealthy and prosperous. In a meritocracy the answer is obvious. In a land of aristocrcy it is not. So are the waelthy elite there because the earned it or inherited it? The way you answer the question will determine who you will vote for as well as, if not better than any other denominator.

To me this is a good reason to 1. support most of W's policies and 2. to have an estate tax.


29 posted on 07/25/2004 2:15:42 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (Tax Energy not Labour.)
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To: Smartass

bttt


30 posted on 07/25/2004 5:25:32 AM PDT by lainde (Heads up...We're coming and we've got tongue blades!!)
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To: Rightly Biased
I found this today not too sure of its accuracy for all I know it could be right on. I hope not

http://www.electoral-vote.com/

This prediction is exceedingly biased. Check out the links to Bush on this page here: http://www.electoral-vote.com/info/bush-record.html

31 posted on 07/25/2004 5:28:48 AM PDT by The_Victor
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
You may be right. Our conditions in world events may be "settled" enough for the people to vote on money matters. However, in a nation which kills 20+% of its children and is on the verge of corrupting even the epistemological foundation of its most basic buildingblock, i.e., marriage and family, that would be unfortunate.
32 posted on 07/25/2004 1:17:27 PM PDT by unspun (RU working your precinct, churchmembers, etc. 4 good votes? | Not "Unspun w/ AnnaZ" but I appreciate)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

I don't see the election coming down to this. Has any Democrat since LBJ really done a lot to enact redistribution? They might've blocked efforts to undo redistributive efforts of the past, but I think this election is going to be about national security, plain and simple, especially if we get another attack between now and the election.


33 posted on 07/26/2004 7:55:40 PM PDT by Christian Muniz (http://www.christianmuniz.com)
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To: The_Victor
"It's a tough, tough map. I think it's going to be a close race," said Democratic strategist Tad Devine...

This means that Bush is no more than 12 points ahead.
34 posted on 07/26/2004 9:20:06 PM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

35 posted on 07/26/2004 9:31:52 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Frumious Bandersnatch
"It's a tough, tough map. I think it's going to be a close race," said Democratic strategist Tad Devine...
This means that Bush is no more than 12 points ahead.


Tour de Farce

36 posted on 07/26/2004 9:38:10 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo; All

Kerry was a supporter of the "People's Peace Treaty," a supposed "people's" declaration to end the war, reportedly drawn up in communist East Germany.

It included nine points, all of which were taken from Viet Cong peace proposals at the Paris peace talks as conditions for ending the war.

One of the provisions stated: "The Vietnamese pledge that as soon as the U.S. government publicly sets a date for total withdrawal [from Vietnam], they will enter discussion to secure the release of all American prisoners, including pilots captured while bombing North Vietnam."

In other words, Kerry and his VVAW advocated the communist line to withdraw all U.S. troops from Vietnam first and then negotiate with Hanoi over the release of prisoners. Had the nine points of the "People's Peace Treaty" favored by Kerry been accepted by American negotiators, the United States would have totally lost all leverage to get the communists to release any POWs captured during the war years.

VVAW supported demonstration, Washington Spring Offensive, April - May 1971

250 + Swift Boat Vets tell the truth about Hanoi Kerry

http://www.swiftvets.com/article.php?story=20040629220813790

More than 250 Swift boat veterans have now signed an open letter to Senator Kerry
challenging his fitness to serve as commander-in-chief of America's armed forces.

http://www.swiftvets.com/index.php?topic=KerryinVietnam

"So far as we are able to determine, Kerry was the only Swift sailor
ever to leave Vietnam without completing the standard one-year tour of duty,
other than those who were seriously wounded or killed."

http://www.swiftvets.com/staticpages/index.php?page=Fitreps

Analysis of John Kerry's Fitness Reports


37 posted on 07/26/2004 9:39:48 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Hanoi Kerry is a traitor!)
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