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My reply from NY Times about the paper burying the story on page 17.

USA Today managed to have it on the front page.

Should I reply to this letter or let it go? The "thanks for holding us up to a higher standards" truly made me want to hurt somebody.

borders@nytimes.com

1 posted on 07/20/2004 2:46:06 PM PDT by Republican Red
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Stealing classified documents, not once, not twice, not three times, not four times, but possibly five times....major media won't be able to sweep this under the carpet and spin for the Clintons.

This one has too much of a head of steam. We got the daily blitz of Abu Ghraib, which actually happened last October. That could explain why the media were just too busy to break the Berger thefts, which happened (IIRC) actually last November and the investigation started in January or February.

(Ironically, this story seems closely patterned to Abu Ghraib---which was investigated in January-February but didn't stir much press ink until the photos were released in April.)


29 posted on 07/20/2004 3:20:19 PM PDT by TomGuy (After 20 years in the Senate, all Kerry has to run on is 4 months of service in Viet Nam.)
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Kudos, Red!


30 posted on 07/20/2004 3:21:40 PM PDT by krunkygirl
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I'll have to check the L.A. Times tomorrow. I didn't see the story on the front page.


31 posted on 07/20/2004 3:27:30 PM PDT by StayoutdaBushesWay
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To: Republican Red
Best words spoken in Berger's defense thus far:
"He is a sloppy person"

33 posted on 07/20/2004 3:29:21 PM PDT by syriacus (WJC escapes personal blame by blaming his demons. Will WJC agree to see an exorcist?)
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The story broke late? I think I saw it on FR after 8pm, EDT. Newspapers wait up after midnight to report the winner of the SuperBowl and all the Oscars. Is the NYT saying that this story is less important than the winner of the SuperBowl or Best Picture at the Academy Awards?


34 posted on 07/20/2004 3:30:07 PM PDT by rabidralph (My pit bull drives an SUV.)
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The NY Times has an early deadline, something like 11 p.m. Eastern. The editor may be telling the truth.


35 posted on 07/20/2004 3:32:49 PM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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While Sandy had paper in his pants, you are getting smoke blown up yours.


36 posted on 07/20/2004 3:34:26 PM PDT by Blue Screen of Death (/i)
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Dear Mr. Red

Please act upon your instincts.
Go kick the hell out of some french canadian.

You'll feel better.


37 posted on 07/20/2004 3:36:19 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (MA)
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it does not really matter what you do, the are going to mislead you anyway, the NYTimes is garbage propaganda


38 posted on 07/20/2004 3:37:20 PM PDT by erik22lax
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Like Reagan said, trust but verify. See what they do tomorrow.


40 posted on 07/20/2004 3:39:59 PM PDT by Cableguy
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It was good that he replied. Tell him you will hold him to his word and send the email to Bill O'Reilly and FoxNews with a letter explaining its relevance, asking them to hold the NYTimes to account for their reporting on this story.


41 posted on 07/20/2004 3:40:50 PM PDT by af_vet_1981
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I got the exact same reply to my email...

Do you not think that the revelation of Clinton Administration National Security adviser Sandy Berger taking classified memoes and documents in his pants and SOCKS deserves a little more coverage than seven paragraphs of AP wire copy on page SIXTEEN of your rotten biased paper?

And you scratch your heads and wonder why your circulation is dwindling? You are so blatantly biased to the loony left you are disgusting...a pox on you.

42 posted on 07/20/2004 3:42:10 PM PDT by Geronimo
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The story broke around 8PM EST. I first heard it on Michael Savage's program, around 8:10. Michael Savage quoted the AP report and he had much more information than the NY Times printed, including the part in which Berger says some of the documents had been "unintentionally discarded."

In addition to USA Today having the story on its front page, the NY Sun had it on its front page and the Wall Street Journal had a long writeup on page two.

So the NY Times is being disingenuous, to put it euphemistically. I think they were just hoping the story would go away.


43 posted on 07/20/2004 3:47:06 PM PDT by DianeDePoitiers
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Thanks all for the advise. My email to NY Times was not calm (I am a FEMALE redhead after all) but I wrote nothing about "evil intent". I brought up the story being on page 17 and asked how they would have treated the story if Condo Rice was in Berger's place. I also let it be known that they managed to get a rumor on the front page last week about Cheney being replace but relegated real hard news to page 17.

We will see what happens tomorrow.


44 posted on 07/20/2004 3:48:44 PM PDT by Republican Red (Is that a classified document in your pants Sandy or are you just glad to see me?)
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The NY Times was probably waiting to see if the story had legs (and hoping it did not) before putting it on the front page. Now they will have to cover it to the very end no matter where the story leads.


46 posted on 07/20/2004 4:01:18 PM PDT by Uncle Hal
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Wait till they bury the story tomorrow, then send the turd a link to this thread!!!


52 posted on 07/20/2004 5:00:46 PM PDT by Coroner
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I can understand your reaction. The Berger story was badly underplayed, but not out of any evil intent. The news broke very late last night, and editors rushed just a few paragraphs into the paper -- all they had at the time.

You might want to point out to him that the Washington Post had a much longer article about the story, and it was on page 2. And they have similar timeframes as far as story deadlines.

54 posted on 07/20/2004 5:38:01 PM PDT by NYCVirago
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To: Timesink; *CCRM; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; PianoMan; GOPJ; ...
Media Schadenfreude and Media Shenanigans PING
56 posted on 07/20/2004 6:20:16 PM PDT by weegee (Government does not solve problems; it subsidizes them. ~~Ronald Reagan)
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After a complaint to the Times about 2 months ago and an email exchange with their ombudsman's assistant, Bill Borders called me on my cell phone. We spoke for about 20 minutes and I was reasonably satisfied that their omission in a table (that favored a liberal view on taxation) was an innocent mistake.

Let's see what tomorrow's edition holds on the Berger theft and the Ketchup Gigolo's dropping of him; if they essentially ignore it, let's open up with both barrels.

58 posted on 07/20/2004 6:34:02 PM PDT by Pharmboy (History's greatest agent for freedom: The US Armed Forces)
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I'm surprised that you got the answer you did!

I think the Times knows it has lost the respect it once had.

When I read the article, tomorrow, I will keep in mind all the points of distortion that Bob Kohn listed in his excellent book "Journalistic Fraud" ---- How the NYT distorts the news and why it can no longer be trusted.

59 posted on 07/20/2004 7:03:14 PM PDT by Exit148
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