Berger Theft Summarized by me, Kerry and Clinton Connections, and Implications...

Self, and Others Posted via links ^ | July 20, 2004 | Joseph Ranos

[Sonar5]

Ok, this is what I have put together thus far, which I feel needs to be reported as one single story with dots being connected.

This is a serious Breach. As he is no longer in Government, what would happen if you or I did that? Would we still be walking around free? Somehow I doubt it.

BTW - You do realize Berger is one of Kerry's foremost advisor's, right....??

Is this the kind of people we want in Government, Not Me....

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From: John Kerry's web Site Link

Typically, before making a decision, Kerry solicits many opinions. His staff installed a long cord on his phone so he could pace while he listens. Some sources are obvious, such as Clinton's former national security adviser Samuel R. "Sandy" Berger. Some are not.

And..... This Guy is Kerry's Foreign Policy Advisor...

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From: John Kerry's web Site Link

“In a conference call with reporters before the speech, Kerry foreign policy advisor Samuel R. "Sandy" Berger said those remarks were not meant to embrace Bush's doctrine of launching preemptive attacks against states the U.S. views as a threat.

Berger, who was President Clinton's national security advisor, said there was "a profound difference between elevating preemption to a defining strategic doctrine," as Bush has, and "recognizing that no president is going to stand by, if he sees an immediate threat to the United States, and not take action."

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hmmmm, how long before these quotes disappear from Kerry's site, I wonder???

Look for Kerry to distance himself from Berger, and when he does, remember his pride in using him as an advisor, that I listed above... Coming Soon....

Flip-Flop Kerry to distance himself from Berger...

And you can take that one to the bank...

Now, I wonder what he allegedly STOLE from the Archives, and how damaging the information was to him, Richard Clarke, or Clinton, and why he allegedly felt the need to put them in his pants????

I can't wait for the flip-Flop from Kerry on this one.... And it will be interesting to see how the press downplays his role in Kerry's Campaign.

I have not even seen anyone mention these yet, have you????

Even Fox doesn't list him as a Kerry Advisor in this story.. Please.... tell me how his involvement with Kerry is NOT Relevant.....

Fox News Article

More background, as the press will refuse to report this stuff..

Now...here come the dots, connect at will....

Remember John Deutsch, Clinton's CIA Director, who was caught putting national security secret documents on his HOME COMPUTER.....

Well, him and Berger surely corresponded with each other, and guess what Clinton did for Deutsch....

He pardoned him for the act in his last days of office, before he could be charged with anything....

hmmm, pardoned before being charged, huh????

So when he is charged, and the dems start screaming partisan politics, remember the name of John Deutsch.

And I found this from CNN, via Drudge....

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From: CNN Article

“Berger was designated as the official from the Clinton administration who would review documents relevant to commission inquiries. He was also a witness at the 9/11 commission hearings and reviewed records to prepare for his personal testimony.”

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In best dean voice......

AAArrrrggghhhhhh......

How can the Press ignore this...

The Guy designated as the person to review documents in the 9/11 Investigation for Clinton's administration Steals them.....

Unbelievable.....

Come on now, If I can put this together, why can't the Press summarize all this....

To me this is a potential HUGE Smoking Gun... What did he steal that we don't know about?????

Innocent mistake my eye.... This guy is trained in Intelligence, every thing he does at his level is specific, and willful.

Man, Is this messed up....

It is so easy to connect these dots, they scream at you.....

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from the Foxnews article: Fox News Article

“However, some drafts of a sensitive after-action report on the Clinton administration's handling of Al Qaeda terror threats during the December 1999 millennium celebration are still missing, officials and lawyers said. Officials said the missing documents also identified America's terror vulnerabilities at airports to seaports.”

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Well, now isn't that convenient..... After action reports written by, guess who.....

The dems favorite terror expert...Richard Clarke...

You remember him, the guy who was responsible more than anyone for keeping terror from hitting our shores, and yet did hardly anything after continued attacks against our interests here and abroad..

Just add it up folks, and see who is allegedly hiding stuff from the 9/11 Commission regarding Terrorists.....

Clinton.....?
Deutsch....?
Berger.....?
Clarke.... ?

Now I wonder why these things disappeared... Hmmmm???

So in summary...

• 1)Berger was designated as the official from the Clinton administration who would review documents relevant to the 9/11 commission inquiries.
• 2)Missing documents may be after-action reports regarding Al-quaida.
• 3)The reports are by none other than Richard Clarke, who is single handedly responsible for more terrorist attack preventions than anyone else in either administration. And he has failed.
• 4)Berger simultaneously served while Deutsch was CIA Director.
• 5)Deutsch steals security documents and puts them on his home computer.( I say steals since they were not supposed to be there in the first place)
• 6)Deutsch gets Pardoned Before being Charged for stealing documents and putting them on his home computer.
• 7)Berger steals documents even though he is thoroughly trained in document handling.
• 8)Berger puts documents in pants and jacket hiding them from view since he knows he is allegedly stealing them.
• 9)Berger testifies before 9/11 Commission and does not disclose that he stole documents, thus skewing results.
• 10)Berger quoted twice on Kerry;s website acting in capacity as an adviser for Kerry. (Note links are actually on Kerry's website)
• 11)Press continues to label Berger as Former National Security adviser for Clinton, instead of Foreign Policy adviser for Kerry, which is his current role according to Kerry's own website.
• 12)Kerry met with and bragged about berger in April when they press showed them both during a briefing.
• 13)Why hasn't Kerry made a statement regarding his connections to all this?
• 14) Who else knew Berger stole documents. Clinton, Clarke, Holbrooke, KERRY...
• When did Kerry learn of this investigation, and did he continue to use Berger as an Advisor after he found out?

I am especially interested in when Kerry found out about this investigation, and whether he continued using berger as an Advisor after he learned of it?

So how do you connect the dots???

I think mine connect pretty well as a massive attempt to disparage the truth about what Clinton's ADministration did in response to terrorism, and their lack of action in a feeble attempt to Blame others instead of taking responsibility.

Feel free to repost this with attribution back here to my original post.

Regards,
Sonar5

[George Smiley]

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[MizSterious]

Someone else susggested "shortsgate" and I think there was a "pantsgate" and "trousergate" as well. Many great ideas in Freeperland!

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[beyond the sea]

Hey Sandy. Are those documents in your pants or are you just glad to see me?

[Ernest_at_the_Beach]

Excellent summary!!!!!

Madivan....anything in the London papers as yet????

[Grampa Dave]

All of them are good, but to me Soxgate is so easy and catchy.

Just the image of this fat slob stuffing documents into his Sox should bring smiles to every Republican in the land and hopefully a lot of moderate voters.

[Roarkdude]

thank you.

[Roarkdude]

thank you.

[farmfriend]

Thanks Ernie.

[Freee-dame]

The security folks at the archive site did not call the FBI, or anyone in government once they found Berger stealing: Archive security called Clinton's attorneys.

reminiscent of the handling of the Vince Foster death by the PARK POLICE

[HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity]

What a dork!

To paraphrase that eminent philosopher Steve Martin (in "King Tut"), "He gave his life for liberalism."

[pickemuphere]

Sorry, dude, but this convoluted patchwork of half-truths will never find legs. Even in reading your summary, I couldn't follow any discernable, concrete pattern of criminality. Most of your points have no relevance to anything. Kerry has a long phone cord -- so what??

Simply put, "Nixon ordered a break-in" this ain't. While I'm all for prosecuting the Clintons, I can't see how this "story" will amount to that.

[Labyrinthos]

Here's a dot to connect. When the geeks at the National Archives catch Berger with his hands in his pants, they don't call the DOJ, FBI, or anyone else in the Administration, but rather, they call one of Billary Clintoon's favorite hitman, Bruce Lindsey. And now, many months after the NA notifies Lindsey, and the FBI probe begins, the story ends up in the press just prior to the DUM Convention. Should we blame GOP operatives for the timing of the story? Perhaps. I'm sure that's what Billary and Bruce would like us to think. Look for more of this stuff as long as Bush's lead is in the low single digits. Remember, if Kerry wins, then statitically, Billary's next real chance to win is 2016.

[Christian4Bush]

bump

[Revolting cat!]

In October 28, 1996, when Ira Sockowitz, a Clinton appointee of Commerce , admists he removed classified documents when he took a new job a the Small Busines adminstration.

Sockowitz?! Aha! There is a history of sock related crimes!

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[TruthShallSetYouFree]

“Look at the timing, not the happenstance.”

Although your doggerel is no threat to Dr. Seuss, your last line makes an excellent point. It is the exact same methodology the dims used with the Mamuel Miranda memos. As you may recall Miranda uncovered incriminating information stored on a common server used by both dems and republicans. The information contained a smoking gun showing that one of Ted Kennedy's staffers was trying to interfere with a judicial appointment prior to the Affirmative Action case involving the University of Michigan. All of the reaction by the democrats (and, sadly, some republicans) involved the "illegal" efforts used to obtain the data, rather than the incriminating data itself.

[snooker]

I would add Gorelick to the mix. I think the 'wall' is a big part of the reason we got sucker punched on 9/11.

Ashcroft made this clear in his committee testimony.

[tsomer]

Simply put, "Nixon ordered a break-in" this ain't.

Did Nixon order the break-in? I recall he was only charged with the coverup.

[Mia T]

kerry, clinton + sandy berger's pants