Berger Theft Summarized by me, Kerry and Clinton Connections, and Implications...

Self, and Others Posted via links ^ | July 20, 2004 | Joseph Ranos

[Sonar5]

Ok, this is what I have put together thus far, which I feel needs to be reported as one single story with dots being connected.

This is a serious Breach. As he is no longer in Government, what would happen if you or I did that? Would we still be walking around free? Somehow I doubt it.

BTW - You do realize Berger is one of Kerry's foremost advisor's, right....??

Is this the kind of people we want in Government, Not Me....

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From: John Kerry's web Site Link

Typically, before making a decision, Kerry solicits many opinions. His staff installed a long cord on his phone so he could pace while he listens. Some sources are obvious, such as Clinton's former national security adviser Samuel R. "Sandy" Berger. Some are not.

And..... This Guy is Kerry's Foreign Policy Advisor...

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From: John Kerry's web Site Link

“In a conference call with reporters before the speech, Kerry foreign policy advisor Samuel R. "Sandy" Berger said those remarks were not meant to embrace Bush's doctrine of launching preemptive attacks against states the U.S. views as a threat.

Berger, who was President Clinton's national security advisor, said there was "a profound difference between elevating preemption to a defining strategic doctrine," as Bush has, and "recognizing that no president is going to stand by, if he sees an immediate threat to the United States, and not take action."

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hmmmm, how long before these quotes disappear from Kerry's site, I wonder???

Look for Kerry to distance himself from Berger, and when he does, remember his pride in using him as an advisor, that I listed above... Coming Soon....

Flip-Flop Kerry to distance himself from Berger...

And you can take that one to the bank...

Now, I wonder what he allegedly STOLE from the Archives, and how damaging the information was to him, Richard Clarke, or Clinton, and why he allegedly felt the need to put them in his pants????

I can't wait for the flip-Flop from Kerry on this one.... And it will be interesting to see how the press downplays his role in Kerry's Campaign.

I have not even seen anyone mention these yet, have you????

Even Fox doesn't list him as a Kerry Advisor in this story.. Please.... tell me how his involvement with Kerry is NOT Relevant.....

Fox News Article

More background, as the press will refuse to report this stuff..

Now...here come the dots, connect at will....

Remember John Deutsch, Clinton's CIA Director, who was caught putting national security secret documents on his HOME COMPUTER.....

Well, him and Berger surely corresponded with each other, and guess what Clinton did for Deutsch....

He pardoned him for the act in his last days of office, before he could be charged with anything....

hmmm, pardoned before being charged, huh????

So when he is charged, and the dems start screaming partisan politics, remember the name of John Deutsch.

And I found this from CNN, via Drudge....

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From: CNN Article

“Berger was designated as the official from the Clinton administration who would review documents relevant to commission inquiries. He was also a witness at the 9/11 commission hearings and reviewed records to prepare for his personal testimony.”

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In best dean voice......

AAArrrrggghhhhhh......

How can the Press ignore this...

The Guy designated as the person to review documents in the 9/11 Investigation for Clinton's administration Steals them.....

Unbelievable.....

Come on now, If I can put this together, why can't the Press summarize all this....

To me this is a potential HUGE Smoking Gun... What did he steal that we don't know about?????

Innocent mistake my eye.... This guy is trained in Intelligence, every thing he does at his level is specific, and willful.

Man, Is this messed up....

It is so easy to connect these dots, they scream at you.....

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from the Foxnews article: Fox News Article

“However, some drafts of a sensitive after-action report on the Clinton administration's handling of Al Qaeda terror threats during the December 1999 millennium celebration are still missing, officials and lawyers said. Officials said the missing documents also identified America's terror vulnerabilities at airports to seaports.”

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Well, now isn't that convenient..... After action reports written by, guess who.....

The dems favorite terror expert...Richard Clarke...

You remember him, the guy who was responsible more than anyone for keeping terror from hitting our shores, and yet did hardly anything after continued attacks against our interests here and abroad..

Just add it up folks, and see who is allegedly hiding stuff from the 9/11 Commission regarding Terrorists.....

Clinton.....?
Deutsch....?
Berger.....?
Clarke.... ?

Now I wonder why these things disappeared... Hmmmm???

So in summary...

• 1)Berger was designated as the official from the Clinton administration who would review documents relevant to the 9/11 commission inquiries.
• 2)Missing documents may be after-action reports regarding Al-quaida.
• 3)The reports are by none other than Richard Clarke, who is single handedly responsible for more terrorist attack preventions than anyone else in either administration. And he has failed.
• 4)Berger simultaneously served while Deutsch was CIA Director.
• 5)Deutsch steals security documents and puts them on his home computer.( I say steals since they were not supposed to be there in the first place)
• 6)Deutsch gets Pardoned Before being Charged for stealing documents and putting them on his home computer.
• 7)Berger steals documents even though he is thoroughly trained in document handling.
• 8)Berger puts documents in pants and jacket hiding them from view since he knows he is allegedly stealing them.
• 9)Berger testifies before 9/11 Commission and does not disclose that he stole documents, thus skewing results.
• 10)Berger quoted twice on Kerry;s website acting in capacity as an adviser for Kerry. (Note links are actually on Kerry's website)
• 11)Press continues to label Berger as Former National Security adviser for Clinton, instead of Foreign Policy adviser for Kerry, which is his current role according to Kerry's own website.
• 12)Kerry met with and bragged about berger in April when they press showed them both during a briefing.
• 13)Why hasn't Kerry made a statement regarding his connections to all this?
• 14) Who else knew Berger stole documents. Clinton, Clarke, Holbrooke, KERRY...
• When did Kerry learn of this investigation, and did he continue to use Berger as an Advisor after he found out?

I am especially interested in when Kerry found out about this investigation, and whether he continued using berger as an Advisor after he learned of it?

So how do you connect the dots???

I think mine connect pretty well as a massive attempt to disparage the truth about what Clinton's ADministration did in response to terrorism, and their lack of action in a feeble attempt to Blame others instead of taking responsibility.

Feel free to repost this with attribution back here to my original post.

Regards,
Sonar5

[Lander]

Sandy Berger took a chance.
And stuff the evidence down his pants.
Then asked why? - it’s endless rants.
“It’s so sloppy in my pants”
Then newsroom lefties begin their dance.
“Look at the timing, not the happenstance.”

[Sonar5]

Great, I had this posted to other topics and keywords that were relevent, and somebody moved it to Chat ONLY, and deleted all the keywords...

Thanks, as I busted my butt to put this together.

You know, I've been a member here since 1998, and even though I don't post millions of messages, a little common courtesy would be appreciated.

I am very dissapointed...

[petercooper]

nice work

[Vermonter]

#9 in your last section should be Berger, no?

If you contact the mods, maybe they can change it

[pierrem15]

Here's what I think:

a) as documents were prepared for the 9/11 Commission (or the Senate or the President himself), that person was screening possibly embarassing items and alerting Lindsey;

b) Lindsey got the ex-Clinton administration figure (like Berger) involved to ask for a "review" of the documents (for accuracy, of course);

c) the former Clinton administration officials then pulled or replaced incriminating documents before the 9/11 Commission or anyone else could see them;

Berger was just too lazy and/or arrogant to bring replacements, or the missing documents could not be covered up.

The most frightening thing is we have no idea if Berger's case is an isolated example of former Clinton administration officials.

If it is not, and if many people in government in different departments (CIA, FBI, Satte, etc.) were involved in pre-screening and deep-sixing documents, then neither the 9/11 Commission nor the Senate Committees ever saw the whole truth.

It's also quite possible that no one in the present administation has seen the whole truth either.

[Sonar5]

yes, #9 should say Kerry, Thanks...

And the Mods made an error and will be correcting the keywords, etc...

Thanks Mods.. :)

Regards,
Joe

[pierrem15]

that person= the person at the National Archives who alerted Clinton's lawyer Lindsey

[N. Theknow]

His staff installed a long cord on his phone so he could pace while he listens.

I guess cordless technology, as many other things, is beyond him.

[Grampa Dave]

Great summary and worthy of the new key Index word: Soxgate.

It is now an official Soxgate referernce.

Freepers wanting to see the various thread tieins can to key words and enter soxgate to see the various threads.

[Sonar5]

Soxgate...Priceless..

[AmericanMade1776]

What kind of man, steals archived Documents in his socks?

It is so reminiscent of the Clinton years, when the documents from Vincent Foster's Office were missing after his suicide on July 20,1993, and somehow turned up mysteriously in the Clinton's personal residence in the White House on July 26, 1993.

Or How on May 16, 1995, Judge Royce Lamberth orders the release of ducuments on Commerce Secretary Ron Brown's trade missions and possible political influence on them, under a freedome of Information Act Suit filed by Judicial Watch, a Conservative legal watchdog group.

In October 28, 1996, when Ira Sockowitz, a Clinton appointee of Commerce , admists he removed classified documents when he took a new job a the Small Busines adminstration. The Documents are seized bye the SBA's Inspector General . In Novemeber, Dalia Traynham, , a Commerce Employee Admits Shredding Documentss from Brown's Files after his death.

[Ben Hecks]

Bump. Your #14 could be a political earthquake.

[AmericanMade1776]

By the WAy ..WHO STOLE the few FBI files on John Kerry?

[Grampa Dave]

Soxgate...Priceless..

We can thank Ernest at the Beach for this incredible Keyword.

I predict before the month is over, Soxgate will be a standard on Free Republic and many other conservate sites and news sites.

[votelife]

14) Who else knew Berger stole documents. Clinton, Clarke, Holbrooke, KERRY...

[Grampa Dave]

This link was posted this past March, and it ties in with Clarke, whose stuff was what was stolen by the Soxgate Bergerlar.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1105766/posts

GOP Moves to Declassify Clarke Testimony (Perjury Trap ?)
Yahoo News/AP ^ | 3/26/2004 | DAVID ESPO


Posted on 03/26/2004 12:56:27 PM PST by AMDG


Top Republicans in Congress sought Friday to declassify two-year-old testimony by former White House aide Richard Clarke, suggesting he may have lied this week when he faulted President Bush (news - web sites)'s handling of the war on terror.

"Mr. Clarke has told two entirely different stories under oath," Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist said in a speech on the Senate floor.

The Tennessee Republican said he hopes Clarke's testimony in July 2002 before the House and Senate intelligence committees can be declassified. Then, he said, it can be compared with the account the former aide provided in his nationally televised appearance Wednesday before the bipartisan commission investigating the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1105766/posts

[aShepard]

So how do you connect the dots??? ............

A few more dots!

The security folks at the archive site did not call the FBI, or anyone in government once they found Berger stealing: Archive security called Clinton's attorneys.

So Clinton's lawyers knew that security knew Berger was stealing; so Clinton probably knew; so McAullife probably knew;

but, Kerry didn't dump this spoiled merchandise guy from his advisory position, so Kerry DIDN'T KNOW.

Bill and Hill give Kerry the total shaft the week before HIS convention!

Game;Set;Match!

[Fedora]

More here.

[MizSterious]

Good dot connecting. And don't forget, he "inadvertentely" stuffed them in his pants, his socks, and wherever (I don't want to know) a total of five times, according to some articles.