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Hear the Rumor on Cheney? Capital Buzzes, Denials Aside
NYTIMES ^ | Patriot11

Posted on 07/15/2004 11:38:50 AM PDT by Patriot11

By ELISABETH BUMILLER

WASHINGTON, July 14 - In the annals of Washington conspiracy theories, the latest one, about Vice President Dick Cheney's future on the Republican ticket, is as ingenious as it is far-fetched. But that has not stopped it from racing through Republican and Democratic circles like the latest low-carb diet.

The newest theory - advanced privately by prominent Democrats, including members of Congress - holds that Mr. Cheney recently dismissed his personal doctor so that he could see a new one, who will conveniently tell him in August that his heart problems make him unfit to run with Mr. Bush. The dismissed physician, Dr. Gary Malakoff, who four years ago declared that Mr. Cheney was "up to the task of the most sensitive public office" despite a history of heart disease, was dropped from Mr. Cheney's medical team because of an addiction to prescription drugs.

"I don't know where they get all these conspiracy theories," said Matthew Dowd, the Bush campaign's chief strategist, who has heard them all. "It's inside-the-Beltway coffee talk, is all it is."

It may be inside the Beltway, but in recent days the Washington summer clamor about dropping Mr. Cheney has so greatly intensified that Mr. Cheney himself was forced to address it on Wednesday. Asked in a C-Span interview if he could envision any circumstances under which he would step aside, Mr. Cheney replied: "Well, no, I can't. If I thought that were appropriate, I certainly would."

In the interview, to be broadcast Sunday, Mr. Cheney also said that Mr. Bush "has made very clear he doesn't want to break up the team," but that chatter of his stepping down was to be expected.

"I suppose right now, because we're in the run-up to the convention, people don't have much to talk about so you get speculation on that," he said. "It's normal. When we get to the convention, I think that'll put an end to that." Who would replace Mr. Cheney has nonetheless became a favorite Washington guessing game, with the names of Secretary of State Colin L. Powell and Senator John McCain of Arizona whispered about the most. Never mind that neither has a particularly cordial relationship with Mr. Bush, and that neither has expressed interest in the job. Other names that keep popping up include Condoleezza Rice, the national security adviser, and Bill Frist, the Senate majority leader.

There is also something of an under-the-radar campaign among Republicans promoting their friends for a job that may never come open. As an example, boosters of Rudolph W. Giuliani, the former mayor of New York, have long tried to toss his name in the mix, despite the fact that friends of the president say he would never pick Mr. Giuliani.

The rumblings about Mr. Cheney are similar to those that plagued Vice President Dan Quayle in 1992, when Secretary of State James A. Baker III led efforts to push Mr. Quayle off the ticket. But the reasons are different.

Mr. Quayle was seen as a bumbler who could not spell "potato," making him an easy target for Bill Clinton's campaign. Mr. Cheney, who has suffered four heart attacks, has faced persistent questions about his powerful role in promoting the war in Iraq and insisting that Saddam Hussein had unconventional weapons.

But like Mr. Quayle, Mr. Cheney suffers from low approval ratings. Last month, a New York Times/CBS News poll found that 21 percent of voters had a favorable impression of Mr. Cheney, compared with 39 percent for Mr. Bush.

Democrats, as part of their campaign to discredit the competition, are energetically promoting the idea that Mr. Cheney is a drag on the ticket. But none of them are suggesting that Mr. Bush should drop him.

"He has come to be a polarizing figure who repels voters," said Tad Devine, a senior adviser to Senator John Kerry. But asked if that did not make Mr. Cheney a dream candidate to run against, Mr. Devine demurred. "I'm not going to lob one in that direction," he said. "I don't want to be the Kerry guy who says 'We want Cheney.' "

Republicans close to the Bush campaign say that the Democrats are using Mr. Cheney as a powerful way to attack Mr. Bush and undermine the White House. "When the Democrats attacked Dan Quayle, it didn't matter a lot," said Vin Weber, a former congressman who is the Bush campaign's chairman for the upper Midwest. "Nobody thought Dan Quayle was the president's most trusted adviser, with broad responsibilities. But Democrats understand that when you go after this vice president, you really go after the administration.''

But even some Republicans are now questioning whether Mr. Cheney should stay on the ticket. As one House Republican said, conspiratorially, outside the House chamber this week, "Watch Cheney." Another Republican member of Congress said that Mr. Cheney was increasingly viewed as a political liability.

"I don't think you fix the problem by changing the No. 2 horse, but Bush is facing so much heavy baggage going into November, he's going to have to throw some of that baggage off," said the Republican, who insisted on anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue.

One recent contribution to the buzz about Mr. Cheney came Tuesday in a column by Charlie Cook, the editor of the nonpartisan Cook Political Report. "Stipulating that dumping a totally loyal, integral part of his inner circle is something that is absolutely not in George W. Bush's DNA, losing with plenty of notice does not appear to be part of his genetic makeup either," Mr. Cook wrote. He concluded that in an election year as close as this one, "the president badly needs something to shake this race up, and I can think of just one thing. Cheney may need to watch his back."

Mr. Cook's column came less than a week after Alfonse M. D'Amato, the once-influential Republican senator from New York, said on the cable station NY1 that Mr. Bush should replace Mr. Cheney with Mr. Powell or Mr. McCain. Mr. D'Amato's motives have stirred speculation among New Yorkers, although some who know him well said that getting attention might have been primary among them. An assistant in Mr. D'Amato's office said Wednesday that he would have no further comment on the matter.

Representative Peter T. King, Republican of New York, said that Mr. D'Amato's comments had not thrown the White House into any evident frenzy. As Mr. King recounted it, he was recently at the White House with another member of Congress and had a brief conversation with Mr. Bush. The other member of Congress mentioned Mr. D'Amato's comments to Mr. Bush, Mr. King said, and Mr. Bush laughed.

"He didn't seem concerned or angry," Mr. King said. "And then I said that Al is getting married on Sunday and he's got other things on his mind." Mr. Bush responded, Mr. King said, by saying, "Tell him the president wishes him well on his wedding day."

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1 posted on 07/15/2004 11:38:51 AM PDT by Patriot11
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To: Patriot11

already posted


2 posted on 07/15/2004 11:40:36 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: Patriot11
The Democrats should be careful what they wish for. They should fear a Condi Rice as VP. True, Condi Rice may cause problems with Bush's conservative base which won't like her socially liberal beliefs, but she'd likely more than make up for it among women and blacks, two demographic groups that Democrats must win big among.

Why do I think Bush would pick Condi Rice? The same reason he picked Cheney -- she is close to him and he trusts her.

3 posted on 07/15/2004 11:43:25 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Patriot11
I'M SO SICK OF THIS "DUMP CHENEY" STUFF!

There's even a letter to the editor in our paper today about "that awful Cheney." It's compelled me to write a letter in response.

According to this article, Cheney has only 21% favorable rating. Sheesh...he must be the most disliked politician in America. I think it's bull.

4 posted on 07/15/2004 11:44:43 AM PDT by Wphile (Keep the UN out of Iraq)
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To: Patriot11
None of this really makes sense. Cheney needs a new doctor in order for him to say he needs to take a break? Why, his previous doctor wouldn't say that? However, what does make sense would be to keep the rumors flowing on through the Dem convention. Maybe even leak some "secret" meetings with some speculative names...

Keep the media interest on Republicans during a snoozer of a Dem convention... now that makes sense.

5 posted on 07/15/2004 11:47:16 AM PDT by rhombus
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To: Wphile

This story is as worn out as an old pair of panties.


6 posted on 07/15/2004 11:48:11 AM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: Question_Assumptions
I agree that if cheney goes it will be a Bush/Rice ticket for 2004. Not only for the reason that you stated, but also it would take the dem's thunder... they have been trying for years to get both a black and woman on the ticket that is electable. So if we can't have cheney.. I would love to see Rice do 4 years as veep and be ready to challenge Hillary for the Presidency in 2008.
7 posted on 07/15/2004 11:58:07 AM PDT by Americanwolf (John Kerry and John Edwards.... We're Socialist..... We want your money..oh and we have better hair.)
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To: rhombus

Maybe this is a test of control over the media


8 posted on 07/15/2004 11:59:06 AM PDT by saveliberty (Liberal= in need of therapy, but would rather ruin lives of those less fortunate to feel good)
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To: Patriot11

I always wondered about that potato thing. There are tons of people who make that mistake, yet Dan Quayle did made a spelling error and we're still hearing about it 14 years later.


9 posted on 07/15/2004 12:02:00 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: Wphile

I like Cheney; I think he does a great job. Maybe I even like Dick Cheney better than George Bush, and I like George a lot. But politics is the art of compromising to get what you want. Objectively, Cheney is not well-liked; compaired to either Powell or Rice he does not help the ticket, and there is no chance that he'll be a candidate in 2008. The goal of Keeping George Bush in office, and keeping Kerry out of office, is too important to be subordinated to any other goal, including keeping Cheney in the V.P. spot. It's necessary, in my view, to replace Cheney with either of the above if it makes GWB's reelection more likely. IMHO.


10 posted on 07/15/2004 12:05:23 PM PDT by PUGACHEV
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To: PUGACHEV
It's necessary, in my view, to replace Cheney with either of the above if it makes GWB's reelection more likely.

I don't know if you've noticed or not, but George Bush operates on principal not polls or politics. That's what most of us like about the man. Dumping Cheney for some perceived advantage is cheap politics. The race is not as close as it looks anyway.

11 posted on 07/15/2004 12:22:22 PM PDT by tbpiper (Michael Moore…..the Erich von Däniken of political documentary)
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To: Patriot11

After Edwards was announced as Lurch's running mate, conservatives were tripping over themselves saying VPs don't make a difference. Why all of a sudden is it going to make a difference now?

Almost all pollsters agree that it will end up breaking one way or another, and if that is true then replacing Cheney becomes a non-factor.

I like Cheney and think he has done a fantastic job. I also like the idea of not being beholden to any one candidate in '08.


12 posted on 07/15/2004 12:31:17 PM PDT by ConservativeLawStudent
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To: tbpiper

"The race is not as close as it looks anyway", is correct. The election is close only in the depraved, insane liberal's and Commie media's mind's.


13 posted on 07/15/2004 12:50:44 PM PDT by Uncle George
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To: Wphile
I'M SO SICK OF THIS "DUMP CHENEY" STUFF!

Me too. Too bad she sheeple never *listens* to W. When he was asked why Cheney would remain his VP, W's response was, "Because he can be President. Next?"

The libs remind me of my daughter when she was three years old, "Diana, what is it about the word 'no' that you do not understand?"

14 posted on 07/15/2004 1:34:09 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: tbpiper
I don't know if you've noticed or not, but George Bush operates on principal not polls or politics. That's what most of us like about the man. Dumping Cheney for some perceived advantage is cheap politics. The race is not as close as it looks anyway.

I agree. W will not even consider letting Cheney go. If anything, W's stroking his VP to stay on the Team. Cheney and Rummy are the best thing that's come along inside the Beltway in decades. W knows how to put together a Team. Despite whjat some folks ay about W as being a dolt, and a flippin cowboy, personally, I appreciate his management style... and guts... and consistency. Too bad he's too Liberal on domestic issues.

15 posted on 07/15/2004 1:40:24 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Babes should wear Bullet Bras - www.BulletBras.net)
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To: Patriot11; Liz; Howlin; ALOHA RONNIE; RonDog; Mudboy Slim
The newest theory - advanced privately by prominent Democrats, including members of Congress - holds that Mr. Cheney recently dismissed his personal doctor so that he could see a new one, who will conveniently tell him in August that his heart problems make him unfit to run with Mr. Bush.

I don't care what was in the memo. How did the RATS get their filthy paws on it?

There needs to be an investigation...

16 posted on 07/15/2004 2:32:17 PM PDT by Libloather (The United States is, by far, the COOLEST country to live in - EVER!)
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Only They have the Right to Privacy......when they plan to kill the unborn.


17 posted on 07/15/2004 4:07:07 PM PDT by Liz
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To: Libloather

Cheney ROCKS...MUD


18 posted on 07/15/2004 6:14:10 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim (RE-IMPEACH William Jefferson Blythe Clinton!!)
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