Posted on 07/12/2004 7:52:29 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
I clearly recall Buchanan's speech at the Houston GOP convention having watched it live and recoreded it on tape for future review.
I listened to it at least 3 times. This was when Pat was still a Republican and before he went off the deep end.
Personally, I thought this was one of the greatest speeched ever given at a convention. The media went NUTS. They talked about His hate filled, mean spirited speech for MONTHS on every single TV show and in every article written on the convention.
This year our convention will be full of moderates and boring speeches. Would you prefer conservative speeches that speak to many of our values AND the months of media criticism and labeling of the GOP as hateful? I would. Reagan spread the conservative word and I think the GOP of the 21st century should do the same and stop trying to run from our values.
I far prefer Guiliani, Arnold and the rest. Powerhouse speakers that will galvinize the swing voters.
it was a great speech. sadly, the GOP for the most part is just an echo of democrats. my goodness if they can't figure out marriage is between a man and a woman, what are they good for? like pjb, rinky-dink tax cuts aren't enough for me and the record on judicial appointments is mixed at best.
senate gop seems to go along to get along. tax cuts is their point of interest.
both parties aspire to win elections via coalitions but there's no room at the table for social conservatives. if we're going to have a decadent liberal society, might as well let Democrats run it. maybe people will then know whom to blame
Your recollection of the Houston convention is a bit hazy. Very few people remember this, but the initial media reaction to Pat's speech in 1992 was similar to yours -- they described it as one of the best speeches they ever heard.
The media didn't start referring to it as an "extemist" speech until about a week later, when the Clinton campaign began painting the GOP as a bunch of right-wing extremists. That's when "one of the best speeches ever heard" became a "hate-filled diatribe."
FWIW, the last 12 years in this country have utterly vindicated Pat Buchanan.
This speech probably cost the GOP the Jewish vote for at least two generations. It was probably the single biggest event in getting Clinton elected.
I've been a conservative independent ever since.
http://www.buchanan.org/pa-96-0622-texas.html
I think we need a variety of good speakers who have credentials and have actually done something. The theme should be "action not words" to contrast with dems like Kerry and Edwards who have never lead anyone or done anything. Buchanan falls into that category as well.
Your error is in imagining that there is only one group of potential swing voters. He who succeeds in defining the issues defines who are the swing voters. Those of us who are Conservative, would much prefer that it be our values, not our enemies values, that define the swing voter.
The ocean of difference between Reagan Republican politics and the present absurd farce may be explained in just these terms.
I am letting pass the idea that those you name are "powerhouse speakers." The present is hardly a shining era for American oratory, and what passes today would have been a joke in most eras.
William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site
Just win baby.
I'll challenge the assumption that Reagan won and got re-elected because he stood up for conservative values. He got re-elected because his conservative policies began working.
Reagan won in 1980 because Carter was a disgrace.
Reagan won re-election in 1984 because the economy started booming.
Reagan had approval ratings in the 30%-35% range in 1983.
Bush's re-election depends on one thing.. The economy. If the momentum continues until November, it's Bush by 6-8 points. If its stagnant, it's going to be dead-tight.
Simple as that. You also need to maximize your convention boost, and to do that you need star power like Rudy Guiliani, whose voice reaches everybody.
Rove picking NYC was stroke of genius. We're going to see a compare & contrast of moderate heroes like Rudy Guiliani speaking at the convention, while all the left wing kooks are raising hell outside.
The "Coalition of the Wild-Eyed" are walking right into the bear-trap.
Pat sold all his stocks in 1996 and missed the single biggest run-up in the history of the market.
As for Pat being "vindicated," he was an angry, unpleasant messenger in 1992, and he still is.
His speech pushed Reagan's last major address to Republicans out of prime time, one of the single dumbest things the GOP has ever done at a convention.
Patrick Buchanan at the Republican National Convention August 17, 1992
BUCHANAN: Well, we took the long way home, but we finally got here.
And I want to congratulate President Bush, and remove any doubt about where we stand: The primaries are over, the heart is strong again, and the Buchanan brigades are enlisted--all the way to a great comeback victory in November.
Like many of you last month, I watched that giant masquerade ball at Madison Square Garden--where 20,000 radicals and liberals came dressed up as moderates and centrists--in the greatest single exhibition of cross-dressing in American political history.
One by one, the prophets of doom appeared at the podium. The Reagan decade, they moaned, was a terrible time in America; and the only way to prevent even worse times, they said, is to entrust our nation's fate and future to the party that gave us McGovern, Mondale, Carter and Michael Dukakis.
No way, my friends. The American people are not going to buy back into the failed liberalism of the 1960s and '70s--no matter how slick the package in 1992.
The malcontents of Madison Square Garden notwithstanding, the 1980s were not terrible years. They were great years. You know it. I know it. And the only people who don't know it are the carping critics who sat on the sidelines of history, jeering at 1 of the great statesmen of modern time.
Out of Jimmy Carter's days of malaise, Ronald Reagan crafted the longest peacetime recovery in US history--3 million new businesses created, and 20 million new jobs.
Under the Reagan Doctrine, 1 by 1, the communist dominos began to fall. First, Grenada was liberated, by US troops. Then, the Red Army was run out of Afghanistan, by US weapons. In Nicaragua, the Marxist regime was forced to hold free elections--by Ronald Reagan's contra army--and the communists were thrown out of power.
Have they forgotten? It was under our party that the Berlin Wall came down, and Europe was reunited. It was under our party that the Soviet Empire collapsed, and the captive nations broke free.
It is said that each president will be recalled by posterity--with but a single sentence. George Washington was the father of our country. Abraham Lincoln preserved the Union. And Ronald Reagan won the Cold War. And it is time my old colleagues, the columnists and commentators, looking down on us tonight from their anchor booths and sky boxes, gave Ronald Reagan the credit he deserves--for leading America to victory in the Cold War.
Most of all, Ronald Reagan made us proud to be Americans again. We never felt better about our country; and we never stood taller in the eyes of the world.
But we are here, not only to celebrate, but to nominate. And an American president has many, many roles.
He is our first diplomat, the architect of American foreign policy. And which of these 2 men is more qualified for that role? George Bush has been UN ambassador, CIA director, envoy to China. As vice president, he coauthored the policies that won the Cold War. As president, George Bush presided over the liberation of Eastern Europe and the termination of the Warsaw Pact. And Mr Clinton? Well, Bill Clinton couldn't find 150 words to discuss foreign policy in an acceptance speech that lasted an hour. As was said of an earlier Democratic candidate, Bill Clinton's foreign policy experience is pretty much confined to having had breakfast once at the Intl House of Pancakes.
The presidency is also America's bully pulpit, what Mr Truman called, "preeminently a place of moral leadership." George Bush is a defender of right-to-life, and lifelong champion of the Judeo-Christian values and beliefs upon which this nation was built.
Mr Clinton, however, has a different agenda. At its top is unrestricted abortion on demand. When the Irish-Catholic governor of Pennsylvania, Robert Casey, asked to say a few words on behalf of the 25 million unborn children destroyed since Roe v Wade, he was told there was no place for him at the podium of Bill Clinton's convention, no room at the inn.
Yet a militant leader of the homosexual rights movement could rise at that convention and exult: "Bill Clinton and Al Gore represent the most pro-lesbian and pro-gay ticket in history." And so they do.
Bill Clinton supports school choice--but only for state-run schools. Parents who send their children to Christian schools, or Catholic schools, need not apply.
Elect me, and you get 2 for the price of 1, Mr Clinton says of his lawyer-spouse. And what does Hillary believe?
Well Hillary believes that 12-year-olds should have a right to sue their parents, and she has compared marriage as an institution to slavery--and life on an Indian reservation.
Well, speak for yourself, Hillary.
Friends, this is radical feminism. The agenda Clinton & Clinton would impose on America--abortion on demand, a litmus test for the Supreme Court, homosexual rights, discrimination against religious schools, women in combat--that's change, all right. But it is not the kind of change America wants. It is not the kind of change America needs. And it is not the kind of change we can tolerate in a nation that we still call God's country.
A president is also commander in chief, the man we empower to send sons and brothers, fathers and friends, to war.
George Bush was 17 when they bombed Pearl Harbor. He left his high school class, walked down to the recruiting office, and signed up to become the youngest fighter pilot in the Pacific war. And Mr Clinton? When Bill Clinton's turn came in Vietnam, he sat up in a dormitory in Oxford, England, and figured out how to dodge the draft.
Which of these 2 men has won the moral authority to call on Americans to put their lives at risk? I suggest, respectfully, it is the patriot and war hero, Navy Lieutenant J G George Herbert Walker Bush.
My friends, this campaign is about philosophy, and it is about character; and George Bush wins on both counts--going away; and it is time all of us came home and stood beside him.
As running mate, Mr Clinton chose Albert Gore. And just how moderate is Prince Albert? Well, according to the Taxpayers Union, Al Gore beat out Teddy Kennedy, 2 straight years, for the title of biggest spender in the Senate.
And Teddy Kennedy isn't moderate about anything.
In New York, Mr Gore made a startling declaration. Henceforth, he said, the "central organizing principle" of all governments must be: the environment.
Wrong, Albert!
The central organizing principle of this republic is freedom. And from the ancient forests of Oregon, to the Inland Empire of California, America's great middle class has got to start standing up to the environmental extremists who put insects, rats and birds ahead of families, workers and jobs.
One year ago, my friends, I could not have dreamt I would be here. I was then still just one of many panelists on what President Bush calls "those crazy Sunday talk shows."
But I disagreed with the president; and so we challenged the president in the Republican primaries and fought as best we could. From February to June, he won 33 primaries. I can't recall exactly how many we won.
But tonight I want to talk to the 3 million Americans who voted for me. I will never forget you, nor the great honor you have done me. But I do believe, deep in my heart, that the right place for us to be now--in this presidential campaign--is right beside George Bush. The party is our home; this party is where we belong. And don't let anyone tell you any different.
Yes, we disagreed with President Bush, but we stand with him for freedom of choice (word missing?) religious schools, and we stand with him against the amoral idea that gay and lesbian couples should have the same standing in law as married men and women.
We stand with President Bush for right-to-life, and for voluntary prayer in the public schools, and against putting American women in combat. And we stand with President Bush in favor of the right of small towns and communities to control the raw sewage of pornography that pollutes our popular culture.
We stand with President Bush in favor of federal judges who interpret the law as written, and against Supreme Court justices who think they have a mandate to rewrite our Constitution.
My friends, this election is about much more than who gets what. It is about who we are. It is about what we believe. It is about what we stand for as Americans. There is a religious war going on in our country for the soul of America. It is a cultural war, as critical to the kind of nation we will one day be as was the Cold War itself. And in that struggle for the soul of America, Clinton & Clinton are on the other side, and George Bush is on our side. And so, we have to come home, and stand beside him.
My friends, in those 6 months, from Concord to California, I came to know our country better than ever before in my life, and I collected memories that will be with me always.
There was that daylong ride through the great state of Georgia in a bus Vice President Bush himself had used in 1988--a bus they called Asphalt One. The ride ended with a 9:00 PM speech in front of a magnificent southern mansion, in a town called Fitzgerald.
There were the workers at the James River Paper Mill, in the frozen North Country of New Hampshire--hard, tough men, 1 of whom was silent, until I shook his hand. Then he looked up in my eyes and said, "Save our jobs!" There was the legal secretary at the Manchester airport on Christmas Day who told me she was going to vote for me, then broke down crying, saying, "I've lost my job, I don't have any money; they've going to take away my daughter. What am I going to do?"
My friends, even in tough times, these people are with us. They don't read Adam Smith or Edmund Burke, but they came from the same schoolyards and playgrounds and towns as we did. They share our beliefs and convictions, our hopes and our dreams. They are the conservatives of the heart. They are our people. And we need to reconnect with them. We need to let them know we know they're hurting. They don't expect miracles, but they need to know we care.
There were the people of Hayfork, the tiny town high up in California's Trinity Alps, a town that is now under a sentence of death because a federal judge has set aside 9 million acres for the habitat of the spotted owl--forgetting about the habitat of the men and women who live and work in Hayfork. And there were the brave people of Koreatown who took the worst of the LA riots, but still live the family values we treasure, and who still believe deeply in the American dream.
Friends, in those wonderful 25 weeks, the saddest days were the days of the bloody riot in LA, the worst in our history. But even out of that awful tragedy can come a message of hope.
Hours after the violence ended I visited the Army compound in south LA, where an officer of the 18th Cavalry, that had come to rescue the city, introduced me to 2 of his troopers. They could not have been 20 years old. He told them to recount their story.
They had come into LA late on the 2d day, and they walked up a dark street, where the mob had looted and burned every building but 1, a convalescent home for the aged. The mob was heading in, to ransack and loot the apartments of the terrified old men and women. When the troopers arrived, M-16s at the ready, the mob threatened and cursed, but the mob retreated. It had met the 1 thing that could stop it: force, rooted in justice, backed by courage.
Greater love than this hath no man than that he lay down his life for his friend. Here were 19-year-old boys ready to lay down their lives to stop a mob from molesting old people they did not even know. And as they took back the streets of LA, block by block, so we must take back our cities, and take back our culture, and take back our country.
God bless you, and God bless America.
Rudy's a natural choice and a good one. But Pataki? Why not showcase our younger guys like Santorum et al?
I thought it was the greatist speach I ever heard at a convention. Pat was right, there was (and still is) a cultural war and unfortunately, the right side is not winning. Pat told the truth, but most people can't handle the truth.
LOL, what a line.
It wasn't just the speech (though that was a big part of it). It was also the damage he did to Bush by challenging him in the primary.
Those are two pretty wild statements. Do you have any figures to suggest that the Jewish vote for Republicans was measurably reduced in 1992 and thereafter? It wasn't that large in 1988, but you are saying that it plummeted from those figures. Did it?
As for Buchanan contributing to Clinton being elected? That is pure nonsense. Clinton's major asset is his insinuating boyish delivery and manner, that has a very strong appeal to women. It has nothing to do with what he is actually saying, or what others are saying about him. If you understand why Hollywood has succeeded in promoting Leftist values over the past two generations, you understand the Clinton phenomenon.
William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site
I think the key for Bush/Rove, from this convention, is to not give any of the WhiffleBalls, CrossDressers, and Larry Queen Live talk shows any fodder to hammer the GOP on.
Parading very popular moderates like Guiliani and Arnold out there is the best way to achieve this. Arnold has some baggage, but everybody is sick of that.
It's not going to affect the conservative base like some people think it will.
By the time November comes around, social conservatives won't be holding their nose saying, "I'm not voting today because Arnold was at the convention". That will be long and forgotten by social conservatives who are smart enough to know that it's extremely important to keep the #1 and #4 Senate liberals out of the White House.
The grassroots campaign organized by Rove and the GOP has been extraordinary. No real social conservative is going to be staying home Nov. 2nd out of spite. Trust me.
Ridiculous
Most of Buchanan's supporters likely voted for Perot in the election. Yes, his challenge to Bush damaged GHW's re-election chances just as much, or more, than this speech.
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