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This speech probably cost the GOP the Jewish vote for at least two generations. It was probably the single biggest event in getting Clinton elected.


5 posted on 07/12/2004 8:03:32 AM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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This speech probably cost the GOP the Jewish vote for at least two generations. It was probably the single biggest event in getting Clinton elected.

Those are two pretty wild statements. Do you have any figures to suggest that the Jewish vote for Republicans was measurably reduced in 1992 and thereafter? It wasn't that large in 1988, but you are saying that it plummeted from those figures. Did it?

As for Buchanan contributing to Clinton being elected? That is pure nonsense. Clinton's major asset is his insinuating boyish delivery and manner, that has a very strong appeal to women. It has nothing to do with what he is actually saying, or what others are saying about him. If you understand why Hollywood has succeeded in promoting Leftist values over the past two generations, you understand the Clinton phenomenon.

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17 posted on 07/12/2004 8:14:43 AM PDT by Ohioan
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When did the Republicans ever have the Jewish vote? They love big government socialism in every country in which they vote. They are far more frightened of Christians than they are of Al Queda.


21 posted on 07/12/2004 8:18:26 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Doctor Stochastic
This speech probably cost the GOP the Jewish vote for at least two generations.

I find that hard to believe. I challenge anyone to read the text of his speech and point out a single thing in it that would drive someone to vote against Bush who wasn't already a leftist to begin with.

It was probably the single biggest event in getting Clinton elected.

Absolutely not. The single biggest event in getting Clinton elected was Ross Perot's decision to enter the race.

26 posted on 07/12/2004 8:21:00 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium . . . sed ego sum homo indomitus")
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To: Doctor Stochastic

This speech probably cost the GOP the Jewish vote for at least two generations. It was probably the single biggest event in getting Clinton elected.>>>>

What a bunch of malarky. First off, the Repubs never get the Jewish vote.

However, I did read the speech again. Perhaps you could point out a couple things that you think would be offensive to Jewish people. Or do you think just letting Pat speak was offensive?


76 posted on 07/12/2004 8:59:03 AM PDT by jmeagan
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To: Doctor Stochastic

That speech cost a lot of things in addition to the Jews that would vote republican. I agree with you but the Buchanan idealogues don't get it.


112 posted on 07/12/2004 11:30:56 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: Doctor Stochastic
"This speech probably cost the GOP the Jewish vote for at least two generations. It was probably the single biggest event in getting Clinton elected."

Perhaps we should have former NYC Mayor Ed Koch - Jew - Democrat - New Yorker - Bush Suporter.

115 posted on 07/12/2004 11:33:24 AM PDT by Positive (There's nothing sadder than seeing a group of great ideas being murdered by a bunch of brutal facts!)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
This speech...was probably the single biggest event in getting Clinton elected.

That's the way I remember it, too. It was raw steak for the sharks in the media and DNC.

184 posted on 07/12/2004 5:51:23 PM PDT by giotto
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I thought we were all Americans? Take a memo; Multi-culturalism will become as hated as Communism regardless of the propaganda.


215 posted on 07/13/2004 6:43:35 AM PDT by junta
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