[Ohioan]

I far prefer Guiliani, Arnold and the rest. Powerhouse speakers that will galvinize the swing voters.

Your error is in imagining that there is only one group of potential swing voters. He who succeeds in defining the issues defines who are the swing voters. Those of us who are Conservative, would much prefer that it be our values, not our enemies values, that define the swing voter.

The ocean of difference between Reagan Republican politics and the present absurd farce may be explained in just these terms.

I am letting pass the idea that those you name are "powerhouse speakers." The present is hardly a shining era for American oratory, and what passes today would have been a joke in most eras.

William Flax Return Of The Gods Web Site

[steve-b]

would much prefer that it be our values, not our enemies values, that define the swing voter

Yeah, and I would much prefer that my mortgage company marked my account "paid in full" and that the IRS would lose all records that I exist. That ain't gonna happen either.