Threat Matrix: Daily Terror Threat - Thread Thirteen

WND ^ | 7-11-04 | N/A

[JustPiper]

Picture credit: TheCabal

"I will never cower before any master nor bend to any threat"

LINK TO THREAD TWELVE

LUCKY THREAD NUMBER:

HOMELAND INSECURITY

Backup electrical systems failed to kick in

A mysterious power failure at Logan Airport that delayed dozens of flights for more than five hours has still not been explained – six days later.

Airport officials insist airline security was not compromised during the blackout Monday at Logan International's Terminal E, but backup electrical systems failed to kick in as they are programmed under such circumstances.

We are the "Stotters" who make ourselves aware of the enemy who wishes to do us harm

Meet It!
Greet It!
Defeat It!

[Rushmore Rocks]

FOX back on now. It was out nationwide apparently.

Weird.

[rickylc]

I don't have access to fox news(no cable or dish, the plight of the unemployed ;) but is foxnews the only thing that isn't coming through?

[milkncookies]

Athens hit by power blackout ahead of Olympics

[StillProud2BeFree]

< sarcasm>You know, someone really needs to talk to those birds and find out why they are consistendly attacking power lines going into airports all of a sudden! Between the birds and the lightning strikes, we don't have time to worry about terrorists. </ sarcasm>

[DAVEY CROCKETT]

Just curious.......anyone getting FOX news? It's not coming through on either of my satellite dishes, nor on my XM Radio.



Mine too I am on CNN uuuuggggggghhhhhhhhh

[Quix]

Sorry. I didn't. I don't think I get USA. Is it on Direct-TV?

[Calpernia]

>>>In basements several stories down . . .

Not sure if either of you were active in thread 1? Thread 2?

But we were discussing underground tunnels then.

I know a few mosques here were built on/very near some.

These tunnels are now listed as 'legend' in official NJ pages. But they aren't legend, I grew up by a few entrances and they were used in the Revolutionary War Routes.

When this was brought up on the older threads....a few freepers referenced underground tunnels in their hometowns too.

Opinion?

[Quix]

I receive your whack. Thanks.

But actually, in this case, I think it was laziness.

Has been for other reasons, more in keeping with your whack, in years past.

[carl in alaska]

That message looks like PysOps to me. The claim that "one third of your country will be irradiated" indicates the writer knows little or nothing about nukes. Hiroshima-type fission nukes produce very little radioactive fallout. The only time significant fallout has actually been produced by nukes is when some huge hydrogen bombs were tested out on islands in the Pacific. So there is no way that a few small nukes could irradiate a large area of the US. Indications are that the current serious threat is from conventional explosives and chemical weapons, possibly combined into a chemical weapons bomb.

[Rushmore Rocks]

All the other channels were just fine.

[Labyrinthos]

The thought crossed my mind. I wish I could recall when I read the article, which may have been posted here by Sean from NEIN at around the time the diver was found in the Hudson River. My thought then is it is now, is there are literally thousands of places in the Catskill Mountains where someone could stash a nuke without any fear of it ever being found unless you knew where to look.

[Calpernia]

bump!

[Quix]

It's fairly easy for me to bow to your sensibilities on such matters.

I'm not sure how your post relates to mine at 168, though.

I was encouraging FREEPERS to do some analysis and put some number estimates to data. And, I was encouraging FREEPERS to collect first hand data. I'd consider that well sourced. I think any alphabet group would at least find it interesting if not impressive in a sense--at least for amateurs.

imho, of course.

[milkncookies]

Birds?!! Man, I was wondering how that one bird was responsible for so many outtages so far apart. I guess my short-sightedness is showing. : >)

[milkncookies]

Brits...Mexico...caves...

[Calpernia]

Seems like it is gone now.

[Quix]

I think it's admirable for us to aspire to being cyper sleuths--especially those of you doing so much grunt work with the search engines.

I think it's also crucial--for humility reasons, for one--TO KEEP IN MIND THAT WE *ARE* amateurs.

Perhaps some warrant a more lofty label--Jill etc. who have been confirmed by some officialdom. AND, I think you, granny et al do honorable, laudable, worthy work of value to us and potentially our nation.

We realistically are a group of lay persons with an above average inclination toward paranoia, obsessiveness etc. who are trying hard to blunt the advantages of the enemy in our resisting terror. It's a worthy task and no other personality types are likely to bother, much less to this extent.

AND, having been involved in highly classified communications and seen government efforts up close and personal--I'd guess we can do as much good as a lot of government orgs, sadly!

Alas, we can be as diligent about sourced data as possible; we can be as 'professional' in our wording and analysis as possible . . . etc. . . . and most alphabet orgs would still look down on us rather disdainfully. Arrogance is epidemic in our society and particularly in such organizations. In far too many cases, if THEY didn't come up with it--then it's not worth consideration. So we needn't fool ourselves.

We can be comforted that Old Sarge et al have some sympathy for our efforts here and therefore we have channels to those who can do something about what we find and our analysis. That's probably the best we can routinely hope for. That's enough.

Just, imho.

[Valin]

Todays ray of hope

IRAQ THE MODEL
Sunday, July 11, 2004
http://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com/

Iraqi army takes initiative.
Last Wednesday I was at the hospital just as any other day. It was an ordinary morning and everything seemed quite except for 2 American helicopters that was patrolling above us. There was nothing abnormal in that but I noticed that they were flying at an altitude lower than usual sometimes maneuvering in between the buildings of the medical center just at the eastern bank of the tigris.

I didn’t expect anything serious as it’s been a while since we heard serious fighting at these hours of the day. Even the gun shots that we could hear frequently at night has considerably decreased in their frequency lately. However you could hear several explosions everyday without any particular timing.

Suddenly and out of no where fire was opened heavily on the other side of the river just in front of our eyes and we saw people running in every direction trying to take shelter. It was unfamiliar at this time of the day but I thought it won’t take long before it gets quite again, but as minutes passed the gun fire kept being heard and grew lauder and was followed by sounds of several mortar shells and RPGs exploding everywhere.

From the sounds I heard I thought that it was a confrontation between terrorist and IP or Iraqi army since the only heavy fire you could hear was that of mortars and RPGs. The strange thing was that it took this long, as after nearly an hour the fighting was still going on and getting more fierce. One of these bombs, and I guess it was a mortar shell, even crossed the river to land about a hundred meter away from our hospital causing the whole building to shake strongly.

All these events made me and the others wonder what was going on. it can’t be a terrorist attack because these thugs usually cut and run whether they faced resistance or not. They come after a certain target and after blowing it up they flee away fearing the response.
Why are they still fighting?
Where is the American support?
Could it be that these terrorists are trapped?
Why are they so confused to shoot in this random way?

My father happened to be at the area where the fighting ensued and he told me later that as he was driving in Haifa Street, a man armed with an AK47 jumped into the street and started shooting into the air! My father rushed back with his car from where he came but he found the entrance blocked with units of the Iraqi National Guard and he barely got away from that place.

After more than an hour of what seemed to be a fierce fighting, 2 American helicopters came in and kept flying above that area but they didn’t open fire. I remember hearing heavy machine guns only once and I think it was American. Few minutes later it was quite again with sporadic shooting every few minutes. I kept thinking about this and it didn’t make sense to me at the beginning as it didn’t simulate any other fighting I saw or heard in the past few weeks. I asked my friends about what they thought and whether they heard anything about it but no one had an explanation to what happened.

The only thing that I thought was logical is that it was a trap or a very well planned attack but I couldn’t tell who was trapped and who was the trapper but I favored the possibility of the Iraqi army attacking the Ba’athists and terrorists who took shelters in Haifa Street’s building although I had a difficulty in imagining that the Iraqi army was already strong enough to take the initiative instead of keep defending its places.

A friend of mine who his relative work in the Iraqi army told me later that it was indeed a trap carried by units of the Iraqi National Guard against the terrorists in that area and that dozens of those thugs were killed and others were arrested. I didn’t really take that to be the exact truth since I didn’t hear or see anything in the local or foreign news to support this story and I’ve seen so many “eyewitnesses” on Al Jazeera and other channels tell stories that only a fool can buy and that appeared to be just lies or exaggerations.

It appeared that my guess and what my friend told me was right as yesterday it was announced that it was a very well planned attack carried by the Iraqi national Guard and resulted in killing and capturing several terrorists. Here’s Al Sabah story:

In an operation to attack dens of terrorism in Baghdad, a platoon of the Iraqi National Guard has carried out a successful operation Wednesday against groups of Saddam's remnants and a number of Al- Zarqawi followers who were gathered in four buildings in the said street. That operation comes as a practical indication to transfer the initiative of the attack to the hand of the National Guard." An accurate intelligence information reported a group of Saddam's men and Al- Zarqawi followers were crowded in four buildings in Haifa street " Mr. Hazim Sh'lan the minister of defense elaborated, adding that the operation started in installing search points in front of these buildings for instigating the hostile elements who thought they could control the battalion of the national guard. Clarifying the details of the operation, the minister said that the battalion was able to be sheltered and specify the hostile fire sources further for cordoning the four buildings in pure Iraqi efforts, saying that the multi –national forces took the role of the monitor by the helicopters. Fighting were occurred from floor to another, from flat to another, about 19 terrorists killed and nine others arrested. Meanwhile one member of the National Guard was killed and 12 others wounded. Among the prisoners and dead were a number of Arab infiltrators.

-By Ali.


- posted by Omar @ 01:49

[WestCoastGal]

That was our discussion last night about a twexus search for

4444 Texas Bush

which was because of the 2000 dollar bill stuff.

[StillProud2BeFree]

Not surprising :) Federal authories were notified of the hijacking as soon as I found it. I figured they'd shut it down pretty darned quick!