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Gen Xers tweak geezers' sacred cows
Albuquerque Tribune ^ | 7/9/04 | J.M. BarĂ³l

Posted on 07/09/2004 1:17:06 PM PDT by qam1

Like any organized religion, rock 'n' roll has its own dogma.

Rolling Stone magazine is the gospel.

Any male singer with big lips is worth glorifying.

To be a true guitar player, one must learn the intro to "Stairway to Heaven."

Elvis Presley was, is and always will be king.

With those tenets come a slew of albums as holy as the Bible. "Born in the U.S.A.," "Tommy," "The Dark Side of the Moon" and - amen, hallelujah - "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band."

But it's time, says a restless group of music critics, to look those canons straight in their beady little platinum eyes and flick them off their pedestals.

In the new book, "Kill Your Idols: A New Generation of Rock Writers Reconsiders the Classics," that's exactly what they do: debunk - no, annihilate - the myth of rock ¹n' roll righteousness.

"Rock 'n' roll's the devil's music, right? So it's absurd to treat it like a religion and have this canon that it's made of saints that we can't criticize," the book's creator and co-editor Jim DeRogatis says in that jaded, edgy tone only a rock music critic can get away with.

Thirty-four music writers - mostly in their 20s and 30s and mostly under the Spin/Rolling Stone readers' radar - took on the challenge of debunking society-in-general's cherished albums.

"Call it a spirited assault on a pantheon that has been foisted upon us, or a defiant rejection of the hegemonic view of rock history espoused by the critics who preceded us," DeRogatis writes in the introduction.

One of the book's contributors is Leanne Potts, a former Tribune reporter who now writes about pop culture for Albuquerque's morning newspaper.

Her target of choice? Lynyrd Skynyrd's debut album "Pronounced Leh-nerd Skin-nerd."

What? How could one of the most memorable rock albums in history, one that includes "Gimme Three Steps," "Simple Man" and "Free Bird" - hello! "Free Bird"! - be on anyone's worst-album ever list?

For Potts, 38, her contempt for the 1973 album is less about its sound - although she writes that Ronnie Van Zant's lyrics "lack the sort of telling details that make a good song great" - and more about the Southern stigma that came with it.

"I didn't like the whole American-by-birth, Southern-by-grace-of-God ethos that had come to be associated with Southern rock bands like Skynyrd," writes Potts, who was born and raised in Alabama.

"I wanted none of Skynyrd's talk of down-home values. It sounded like Moral Majority code speak, and this teenaged member of Greenpeace and fan of musical minimalists such as the Ramones and Devo was having none of this Confederate-flag-waving, axe-wielding mob of rednecks in bell-bottoms."

And just like that, Potts buzz-saws through an institution no critic has had the gall to berate under his or her breath, let alone in a much-anticipated 300-page paperback - a book that received tyrannical criticism on the Internet weeks before its release.

Potts admits she was only 7 when the album came out and didn't start listening to it intently until she was 15 - a ploy to impress her Skynyrd die-hard boyfriend.

But she resents the notion that just because she didn't grow up with the baby boomers, she wouldn't know what Lynyrd Skynyrd or any other music of the time was all about.

"It sticks in my craw that rock is so skewed to the boomers," Potts says. "Like 'You don't know; you weren't there,' in this condescending tone, like we were born too late.

"Skynyrd's album is the one I thought of partly because of the southern connection. Because they were classic rock and because I lived in the South, they were gods. They were always there."

One of the writers - DeRogatis' wife, Carmel Carrillo - chose not to efface an album. She instead came up with a list of songs each of her ex-boyfriends cherished, therefore killing their idols.

It's important to note that just because the writers protest their least favorite album doesn't mean they dislike that band. DeRogatis, for example, who targets the Beatles' "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band," says one of his all-time favorite albums is the Fab Four's "Revolver."

The majority of the book is criticism of albums from the '60s and '70s, a few '80s and '90s releases, and one from 2003.

So what's the gripe with classic rock?

"The business of canonizing things is a real particular baby boomer trait," DeRogatis says from his home office in Chicago. "It's the generation most reluctant to give up their youth and their place in history.

"Gen X never believed the hype."

DeRogatis, a 39-year-old pop music critic at the Chicago Sun-Times, shopped the book's concept for a couple of years but soon realized publishers weren't interested in books of all-negative reviews.

"But one of my favorite books is my colleague Roger Ebert's collection of all his pans," says DeRogatis, who finally landed with Barricade Books. "When I read a negative review it makes me think about my own perspective. I'm looking for another idea. I'm looking to be challenged."

Delve into DeRogatis' history as a writer, and it's no wonder he took on such an edgy project. According to reports, in 1996 DeRogatis was fired as a senior editor at Rolling Stone magazine for writing a blazing critique of a Hootie and the Blowfish album. His review was replaced by a much happier one.

"I'll confess that in the midst of editing this collection, I had a brief crisis of conscience when I wondered if this book was too much of a childish exercise - the rock-critic equivalent of the bratty kid wiping his snot on the blackboard in feeble protestation of the injustices of third-grade life," he writes.

But in the end, "Kill Your Idols" happened, and DeRogatis "couldn't be prouder."

"It was a labor of love," he says. "It's an odd thing to say about a book about bands these writers hate."

So does even DeRogatis have his own sacred cows?

"I may have had a problem if someone in the book tried to take apart Kraftwerk or Black Sabbath or Velvet Underground," he admits.

For Potts, two of her all-time favorite albums are U2's "The Joshua Tree," and Nirvana's "Nevermind" - two albums that showed up in the book.

But she's OK with it.

"I love the spirit of argument," she says. "I don't understand people who get angry about music. Part of the benefit of music is we sit around and talk about it."

*** TARGETED IDOLS

The following albums are taken to pasture in "Kill Your Idols."

"Pet Sounds," the Beach Boys (1966)

"Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band," the Beatles (1967)

"Smile," the Beach Boys (1967)

"Sweetheart of the Rodeo," the Byrds (1968)

"Tommy," the Who (1969)

"Kick Out the Jams," the MC5 (1969)

"Trout Mask Replica," Captain Beefheart and his Magic Band (1969)

"Layla and Other Assorted Love Songs," Derek and the Dominos (1970)

"Ram," Paul and Linda McCartney (1971)

"Untitled ('IV')," Led Zeppelin (1971)

"Harvest," Neil Young (1972)

"Exile on Main St.," the Rolling Stones (1972)

"Desperado," the Eagles (1973)

"Pronounced Leh-nerd Skin-nerd," Lynyrd Skynyrd (1973)

"The Dark Side of the Moon," Pink Floyd (1973)

"GP/Grievous Angel," Gram Parsons (1973/1974; rereleased in 1990)

"Blood on the Tracks," Bob Dylan (1975)

"Born to Run," Bruce Springsteen (1975)

"Horses," Patti Smith (1975)

"Exodus," Bob Marley & the Wailers (1977)

"Rumours," Fleetwood Mac (1977)

"Never Mind the Bollocks . . . Here's the Sex Pistols," the Sex Pistols (1977)

"Double Fantasy," John Lennon/Yoko Ono (1980)

"Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables," Dead Kennedys (1980)

"Imperial Bedroom," Elvis Costello and the Attractions (1982)

"Born in the U.S.A.," Bruce Springsteen (1984)

"The Best of the Doors," the Doors (1985)

"The Joshua Tree," U2 (1987)

"It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back," Public Enemy (1988)

"Nevermind," Nirvana (1991)

"Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness," Smashing Pumpkins (1995)

"OK Computer," Radiohead (1997)

"Yankee Hotel Foxtrot," Wilco (2003)


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: babyboomers; disco; genx; glam; metal; music; punk
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To: k2blader; lavrenti; King Prout; Fedora
Hey pal!

If you wanted intelligence and erudition, you shouldn't have come to a thread that's the domain of us here social miscreants and assorted riffraff.

121 posted on 07/09/2004 4:07:58 PM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid (I'm flying. High in the sky. Like a kite. Or, a stone cold doper. One or the other.)
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To: annyokie
Yeah, I always thought Clapton was probably the best, certainly the best I ever saw in person, but there are some pretty good ones. I always wondered how good Stevie Ray Vaughan could have been had he lived.

Interesting to speculate.

122 posted on 07/09/2004 4:08:40 PM PDT by Proud_texan
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To: Mr. Bird
When people start vilifying the music, it just comes across as either snobbish or parochial. The only critique you can really trust is that of the die-hard fan. An REM fan who laments their latest release, or the Metallica fan who pines for the black album days. At least you can respect their point of view.

Oh man, those people are the worst. They rarely judge a new album on its merits. Instead they just listen to see if sounds like the last album, and if it doesn't, they trash it.

123 posted on 07/09/2004 4:09:23 PM PDT by Melas
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To: omniscient
"Hendrix"

Ya know, if he'd of stayed more on track with the stuff he was doing with the Isley Brothers I think I could agree but a lot of his stuff seemed to me to be drugged out junk.....

No question at all on his talent, I just think it was retarded by the drugs.

124 posted on 07/09/2004 4:11:34 PM PDT by Proud_texan
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Geez, more whining from the kids. How about you create your own music then create your own publication to write about it? Black Xers did it. What's keeping you guys? Oh, easier to sit on the bench and bitch...ok then, nevermind.


125 posted on 07/09/2004 4:11:58 PM PDT by wtc911 (moderate islam is the swamp where evil festers)
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To: omniscient
Hendrix vs. Clapton.. agreed, while Clapton is very good, Hendrix is truly the Genius..

Allman Brothers.. While Greg did some very good stuff, it was Duane that was the Allman Bros. Band's very soul..
It is my opinion, had he lived, he would have possibly equaled Hendrix in some respects..

Prince.. I like his music, love his guitar work, think "Graffitti Bridge" was OK, but his best album was "Diamonds & Pearls"..

Let's not forget Les Paul.. inventor of the electric guitar, and extraordinary player and innovator..

126 posted on 07/09/2004 4:12:06 PM PDT by Drammach (Freedom; not just a job, it's an adventure..)
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To: Xenalyte
If this were Gunner, I'd marry him in a second.

Just damn. I've always been the David Lee Roth type.


127 posted on 07/09/2004 4:17:08 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Xenalyte

You didn't even mention my favorite Skynard song, "Simple Man"


128 posted on 07/09/2004 4:21:14 PM PDT by Melas
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To: Proud_texan

Just a correction of sorts....the best technical guitar player I've ever seen in person is John McLaughlin but I was thinking more of technical as well as the "feeling" that was evoked.

I guess if I was in whatever cult McLaughlin was in I'd have a different take on it, he's certainly the fastest, most technically proficient I've ever seen, but I consider more than just that.


129 posted on 07/09/2004 4:23:43 PM PDT by Proud_texan
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To: Melas

That's not a song. That's a dirge.


130 posted on 07/09/2004 4:27:04 PM PDT by Xenalyte (No one will be sitting in sackcloth and ashes wailing, "Oh, if only we had listened to Art Bell!")
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To: qam1
Those who can't play, critique.

So as FZ once said "shut up and play yer guitar!" (which I'm doing right now). BTW - he also said "my guitar wants to kill your momma", and "Jazz isn't dead - it just smells funny".

131 posted on 07/09/2004 4:27:38 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: Proud_texan
I always wondered how good Stevie Ray Vaughan could have been had he lived.

Ironically, he was better when he was using (same for Eddie VH.) If one learns to play while always wasted, that's how one is used to playing.

After going clean - one has more precision but less fire.

132 posted on 07/09/2004 4:30:51 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: Mr. Bird

"When people start vilifying the music, it just comes across as either snobbish or parochial."

I was talking about musical tastes with an older (90+) gal from our church, and how the kids always seem to need listen to something just to go against their parents.

She said HER mom didn't like her taste in music. I asked her what was so different? She said that when she was young the kids liked the music with strings AND horns - but her parents thought the horns were just so much noise!


133 posted on 07/09/2004 4:31:21 PM PDT by geopyg (Peace..................through decisive and ultimate VICTORY. (Democracy, whiskey, sexy))
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To: wtc911

>>How about you create your own music

Am I missing something? Boomers created rock and roll? They were what ... 5-10 or so when the first rock started. Bill Haley and the Comets were boomers? 1925 (Haley's birthdate) qualifies as a post WWII birthdate?

What about Chuck Berry (born 1926). Boomer?

Elvis (1935). Boomer?

I don't really know much about Rolling Stone's history, so maybe that was started by a Boomer. Rock-n-roll however is from the generation before the Boomers (aka The Silent Generation), my parent's generation actually. They would fall off their chairs laughing if they heard one of their Boomer friends claim Boomers invented rock-n-roll.


134 posted on 07/09/2004 4:34:32 PM PDT by Betis70
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To: The Scourge of Yazid

I'd come on the thread but I'm busy.


135 posted on 07/09/2004 4:46:20 PM PDT by lavrenti (I'm not bad, just misunderstood.)
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To: Betis70
"Hey, what about me?"


136 posted on 07/09/2004 4:49:00 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: lavrenti
A likely excuse.

Crazed, overly motivated youth sports league coach:

WHAT ARE YA, SOME KINDA CRYBABY?(!) GET YER LAZY ASS ON THE FIELD SON! THIS AIN'T A THREAD FOR WUSSIES!!!

137 posted on 07/09/2004 4:49:28 PM PDT by The Scourge of Yazid (I'm flying. High in the sky. Like a kite. Or, a stone cold doper. One or the other.)
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To: Xenalyte
That's not a song. That's a dirge.

lol You always tell it like you see it. I so admire that.

138 posted on 07/09/2004 4:52:51 PM PDT by Melas
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To: lavrenti

Don't do that. It'd get all sticky and we'd have to clean it.


139 posted on 07/09/2004 4:53:46 PM PDT by Xenalyte (No one will be sitting in sackcloth and ashes wailing, "Oh, if only we had listened to Art Bell!")
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To: Melas

That's one of the many benefits of being a big well-armed broad. :)


140 posted on 07/09/2004 4:54:07 PM PDT by Xenalyte (No one will be sitting in sackcloth and ashes wailing, "Oh, if only we had listened to Art Bell!")
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