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Defiant Saddam Rejects War Crimes Charges
Associated Press ^ | 7/1/04 | HAMZA HENDAWI

Posted on 07/01/2004 5:58:01 AM PDT by TexKat

BAGHDAD, Iraq - A defiant Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) rejected charges of war crimes and genocide against him in a court appearance Thursday, telling a judge "this is all theater, the real criminal is Bush," according to a reporter in an official media pool.

Saddam's hands were cuffed when he was brought to the court but the shackles were removed for the 30-minute arraignment at Camp Victory, a former Saddam palace on the outskirts of Baghdad.

"I am Saddam Hussein, the president of Iraq," Saddam twice said, according to the CNN reporter, who described him as alternately downcast and defiant. Other times, he appeared confused.

In his first public appearance since he was captured seven months ago, Saddam refused to sign a list of charges against him unless a lawyer was present, and he questioned the court's jurisdiction, according to the reporter. Saddam defended the invasion of Kuwait, saying it was "for the Iraqi people."

The seven broad charges against Saddam are the killing of religious figures in 1974; gassing of Kurds in Halabja in 1988; killing the Kurdish Barzani clan in 1983; killing members of political parties in the last 30 years; the 1986-88 "Anfal" campaign of displacing Kurds; the suppression of the 1991 uprisings by Kurds and Shiites; and the 1990 invasion of Kuwait.

Specific charges will be filed later, Iraqi officials said. Those charges were expected to include war crimes, genocide and crimes against humanity. A formal indictment with specific charges is expected later, said Salem Chalabi, director of the Iraqi Special Tribunal. The trial is not expected until 2005.

Saddam wore a gray, pinstriped suit with an open-collar white shirt and black shoes. His beard was trimmed and he had heavy bags under his eyes, according to the first televised images of his appearance. He sat calmly, occasionally gesturing with his hands while addressing the court.

Saddam sometimes took notes on a piece of yellow paper and gestured with his hands. He was wearing a white with no tie and a charcoal-colored pinstriped jacket. He often stroked his trimmed beard and appeared thoughtful.

Saddam was flown by helicopter from an undisclosed location and driven to a courtroom on a U.S. base, the report said. He was led from an armored bus escorted by two Iraqi prison guards and ushered through a door guarded by six more Iraqi policemen. The bus was escorted by four Humvees and an ambulance.

Strict pool arrangements severely limited media access to the hearing.

"The next legal step would be that the investigations start proper with investigative judges and investigators beginning the process of gathering evidence," Chalabi said. "Down the line, there will be an indictment, if there is enough evidence — obviously, and a timetable starts with respect to a trial date."

Saddam and 11 of his top lieutenants were transferred to Iraqi custody Wednesday. They no longer are prisoners of war but are still locked up, with U.S. forces as their jailers.

"They were surprised that they were told they're in Iraqi custody," Chalabi told AP Radio.

President Ghazi al-Yawer told an Arab newspaper that Iraq's new government has decided to reinstate the death penalty, which was suspended during the U.S. occupation.

U.S. and Iraqi officials hope the trial will lay bare the atrocities of Saddam's regime and help push the country toward normalcy after years of tyranny, the U.S.-led invasion and the insurgency that blossomed in its aftermath.

But the trial could have the opposite effect, possibly widening the chasm among Iraq's disparate groups — Kurds, Shiites and Sunnis.

"It's going to be the trial of the century," National Security Adviser Mouwafak al-Rubaie told Associated Press Television News. "Everybody is going to watch this trial, and we are going to demonstrate to the outside world that we in the new Iraq are going to be an example of what the new Iraq is all about."

Wednesday's transfer of legal custody took place in secret. Chalabi said the defendants were brought one-by-one into a room at an undisclosed location and informed of the change in their status to criminal suspects. They were told they will appear in court within 24 hours to hear charges, he said.

According to Chalabi, the 67-year-old Saddam said, "Good morning," as he entered the room, listened to the official explanation, and was told he could respond to complaints Thursday. He then was hustled away.

"Some of them looked very worried," Chalabi said of the other defendants, who include former Deputy Prime Minister Tariq Aziz, the regime's best-known spokesman in the West; Ali Hasan al-Majid, known as "Chemical Ali;" and former Vice President Taha Yassin Ramadan.

The initial proceedings are taking place under a blanket of secrecy because of fears that insurgents, many of them Saddam supporters, might exact revenge on participants.

U.S. and Iraqi officials refused to say where Thursday's hearing would take place or release the name of the presiding judge. No pictures will be allowed of any Iraqi participants — except for the defendants — to protect them from attack. Only a few journalists will be allowed to attend.

Issam Ghazawi, a member of Saddam's defense team, said he received threats in a telephone call Wednesday from someone claiming to be a minister of justice, who promised that anyone trying to defend Saddam would be "chopped to pieces."

U.S. officials had hoped to delay proceedings against Saddam until the Iraqis set up a special court and trained a legal team. But Prime Minister Iyad Allawi, whose government regained sovereignty Monday, insisted publicly on taking legal custody of Saddam quickly. The Americans agreed on condition they keep him under U.S. lock and key.

Trying Saddam and top regime figures presents a major challenge to the Iraqis and their American backers.

Allawi's government is due to leave office after January elections, and a second national ballot will be held by December 2005. That raises the possibility that national policy on the prosecution of Saddam and his backers could change depending on the makeup of the government.

Most of Iraq's 25 million people were overjoyed when Saddam's regime collapsed, and many are looking forward to the day he will be punished.

"Everyone all over the world agrees that Saddam Hussein should be put on trial in front of the Iraqi people," Baghdad resident Ahmad al-Lami said.

However, the turmoil of the past 14 months has led to a longing for the stability and order of the ousted dictatorship, at least among Sunni Arab Muslims who now feel threatened by the possibility of a Shiite-dominated government.

Nostalgia for Saddam — a Sunni — is strongest in Sunni-dominated parts of the country most heavily involved in the insurgency.

"Saddam Hussein was a national hero and better than the traitors in the new government," a resident of Saddam's hometown of Tikrit told APTN, refusing to give his name.

In Fallujah, an insurgent stronghold west of Baghdad, resident Ammar Mohammed suggested the Americans should be put on trial first because they "killed thousands of Iraqis in one year of occupation."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: fryhisass; iraqijustice; iraqitrial; prisonersaddam; saddamhussein; warcrimes
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1 posted on 07/01/2004 5:58:02 AM PDT by TexKat
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To: TexKat

"...the real criminal is Bush". Where have I heard this before?


2 posted on 07/01/2004 6:00:36 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: TexKat

Look in the eyes of evil.


3 posted on 07/01/2004 6:00:59 AM PDT by TXBSAFH (Power corrupts..... Absolute power can be fun.)
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To: TexKat
France said that since he denies the charges he should be let go.

/sarcasm

4 posted on 07/01/2004 6:01:56 AM PDT by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. -- Gen G. Patton Jr)
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To: TexKat
A defiant Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) rejected charges of war crimes and genocide against him in a court appearance Thursday, telling a judge "this is all theater, the real criminal is Bush," according to a reporter in an official media pool.

He sounds exactly like the democrat lunatics.

5 posted on 07/01/2004 6:02:17 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: sarasota

This clip and quote are undoubtedly going to appear in next Moore propaganda film. I'm guessing he is watching this right now and cheering on his hero, Saddam.....


6 posted on 07/01/2004 6:03:16 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: TexKat

SADDAM: Keyser Soze did all these things. Not me!


7 posted on 07/01/2004 6:03:22 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (Strategery - "W" plays poker with one hand and chess with the other.)
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To: anniegetyourgun

One thing's for sure, that clip led CNN's news this morning.


8 posted on 07/01/2004 6:04:16 AM PDT by sarasota
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Defiant Saddam Rejects War Crimes Charges

Of course. What did we expect? "Yeah, ya got me, I did it all."

9 posted on 07/01/2004 6:04:27 AM PDT by ladtx ( "Remember your regiment and follow your officers." Captain Charles May, 2d Dragoons, 9 May 1846)
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To: TexKat

Try him Romanian style: arraignment,conviction,execution.All in the space of 15 minutes.


10 posted on 07/01/2004 6:04:31 AM PDT by SirLurkedalot ("Man I'm tired of being right!" Ace Ventura)
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To: TexKat
"Don't strip me of my title of President." -Saddam Hussein

Dictators like to expropriate the title of 'president' because democracies have presidents, and democracy is a very powerful idea, based upon human rights.

11 posted on 07/01/2004 6:05:27 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: sarasota

They too are hoping against all hope that Saddam will prevail....


12 posted on 07/01/2004 6:05:47 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: TexKat

Saddam must be incarcerated with his personal hairdresser and a supply of "Grecian Formula".


13 posted on 07/01/2004 6:07:09 AM PDT by COUNTrecount
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To: anniegetyourgun

And Bush won't.


14 posted on 07/01/2004 6:07:13 AM PDT by sarasota
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An Iraqi security guard in Baghdad reads a local newspaper featuring a photo montage of former Iraqi president Saddam Hussein flanked by two US soldiers.(AFP/Saeed Khan)


15 posted on 07/01/2004 6:07:24 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

"I was dead at the time!"


16 posted on 07/01/2004 6:07:57 AM PDT by ICX (ACLU - valiant defenders of homosexuality, pedophilia, discrimination, and liberalism since 1920!)
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To: sarasota

Saddam would be a good choice as Kerry's running mate. He would bring a dignity and compassion that Kerry severely lacks.


17 posted on 07/01/2004 6:07:59 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Drove my Jaguar to the Quagmire. But the Quagmire was dry.)
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To: TexKat

This looks like Dan Rather.


18 posted on 07/01/2004 6:08:03 AM PDT by boop
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To: jwalsh07
Fox News this AM had on attorney DiGenova and he had the best line:

"It sounds as if Saddam has been coached by George Soros and Michael Moore."

19 posted on 07/01/2004 6:08:20 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedy family legacy - can't skipper a boat, can't fly, can't drive, can't ski)
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To: TexKat

His body language looks a lot like Clinton's during his interview with Rather, no?


20 posted on 07/01/2004 6:08:32 AM PDT by ICX (ACLU - valiant defenders of homosexuality, pedophilia, discrimination, and liberalism since 1920!)
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