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Kerry cited in Catholic heresy case
Washington Times ^ | 7/1/04 | Julia Duin

Posted on 07/01/2004 4:22:11 AM PDT by Elkiejg

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:42:32 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

A Catholic lawyer has filed heresy charges against Sen. John Kerry with the Archdiocese of Boston, accusing the Democratic presidential candidate of bringing "most serious scandal to the American public" by receiving Holy Communion as a pro-choice Catholic.

The 18-page document was sent to the archdiocese June 14, but released to the public only yesterday by Marc Balestrieri, a Los Angeles-based canon lawyer and an assistant judge with the Archdiocese of Los Angeles' tribunal, an ecclesiastical court.


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To: narses

Truth eventually wins in the end. Kerry is a dork and, on a moral level, he is a barbarian. This is funny. Let's see how the bishops handle this.


41 posted on 07/01/2004 7:12:47 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: BobCNY
The 18-page document was sent to the archdiocese June 14, but released to the public only yesterday by Marc Balestrieri, a Los Angeles-based canon lawyer and an assistant judge with the Archdiocese of Los Angeles' tribunal, an ecclesiastical court.

I can't get to the site either. Does seem curious, though, that he's associated with Mahony's archdiocese. (Was associated?)

42 posted on 07/01/2004 7:14:07 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Elkiejg

True, but I can't help going "Hee-hee!".


43 posted on 07/01/2004 7:16:22 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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To: tkathy; narses
wonder how many votes this will get for Kerry. 13 posted on 07/01/2004 4:41:56 AM PDT by tkathy

They can all laugh about it...in Hell.

44 posted on 07/01/2004 7:19:52 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: jmaroneps37
Another sad reminder of the fact that if the Church is to be defended in America, Lay people will have to do it. 24 posted on 07/01/2004 5:52:08 AM PDT by jmaroneps37

That's OK. Lay people had to defend the church and Christian civilization from the Vikings, the Danes, the Moslems, and the Mongol horde. Some things never change. This guy gets a Charles Martel Award.

45 posted on 07/01/2004 7:25:22 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: narses

I understood one can take communion at another Christian chuch but that it does not fulfill ones Sunday obligation. In other words he still has to take communion at his own church for it to be "legal" Thsi is not blasphemey as I understand it.


46 posted on 07/01/2004 7:33:56 AM PDT by FlatLandBeer
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To: BartMan1; Nailbiter

bump


48 posted on 07/01/2004 7:42:54 AM PDT by IncPen (Proud member of the Half Vast Right Wing Conspiracy)
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To: Elkiejg; *Catholic_list; father_elijah; nickcarraway; SMEDLEYBUTLER; Siobhan; Lady In Blue; ...
Catholic Discussion Ping!

Please notify me via FReepmail if you would like to be added to or taken off the Catholic Discussion Ping List.

49 posted on 07/01/2004 8:51:13 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: BobCNY
The site is up now: De Fide.
50 posted on 07/01/2004 8:54:35 AM PDT by maryz
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To: Elkiejg

BTTT!


51 posted on 07/01/2004 8:56:54 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Between the Lines
There are millions of American Catholics that have beliefs just like Kerry. This may alienate them from the Church.

They already are alienated from the Church. Acceptance of abortion is the profession of heresy. Its not just some mere sin, but a renunciation of part of the Faith handed down from the Apostles.

Heretics are automatically excommunicated. We want the Church to formally denounce those who publicly hold these views (i.e. pro-abortion "Catholic" politicians) by name with a formal declaration of excommunication so that the position is spelled out in black and white. You cannot be a Catholic a pro-abortion politician - you must choose abortion or Catholicism.

52 posted on 07/01/2004 9:08:50 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Salvation; maryz; narses; Aquinasfan
Kerry's absurdly grotesque support for and shameless promotion of the godless slaughter of the unborn and the harvesting of embyronic humans in medical research is worthy of eternal damnation. Bishops and priests who fail to point this out to him and all Catholics in the strongest terms are derelict in their duty as representatives of Christ. If Kerry were to die today, from a Catholic point of view, he deserves to spend eternity in Hell.
53 posted on 07/01/2004 9:09:43 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: FlatLandBeer
I understood one can take communion at another Christian chuch but that it does not fulfill ones Sunday obligation. In other words he still has to take communion at his own church for it to be "legal" Thsi is not blasphemey as I understand it.

You understand it incorrectly. The AME church neither professes nor possess the Real Presence in the Eucharist. A Catholic who partakes in a communion ceremony in a Protestant Church is expressing publicly an indifference to the nature of the sacraments available in the Catholic Church. To partake is to give the wrong impression that it matters not if you attend a Catholic or a Protestant church.

SD

54 posted on 07/01/2004 9:10:47 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: FlatLandBeer
I understood one can take communion at another Christian chuch but that it does not fulfill ones Sunday obligation. In other words he still has to take communion at his own church for it to be "legal" Thsi is not blasphemey as I understand it.

To take communion at a Protestant Church is to commit and act of blasphemy and schism and to leave one suspect of heresy. Blasphemy because there is no Mass or Real Presence among the Protestants, schism because it is an act of union with those who are willfully seperated from the unity of the Catholic Church, suspect of heresy because you have joined in communion with those who reject the Catholic Faith. Catholics are absolutely forbidden from approaching Protestant ministers for their pretend sacraments.

55 posted on 07/01/2004 9:13:09 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: kitkat

"HE IS NOT BEING HONEST WITH THE VOTERS."

Tell us something we already don't know...


56 posted on 07/01/2004 9:14:20 AM PDT by Hotdog
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To: Hermann the Cherusker; Polycarp IV; NYer; Salvation; ELS; dsc; Siobhan; redgolum; livius; ...
Technically, Kerry already merits de facto excommuncation for facilitating abortion and for sacrilege. Bishops and priests who continue to tolerate this promote both by making it appear to other Catholics that supporting abortion and receiving Holy Communion while doing it are OK. Clearly, Kerry is unworthy of the label "Catholic."
57 posted on 07/01/2004 9:20:08 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Elkiejg; 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; ...
Archbishop Raymond Burke - "Voting for candidate who backs abortion a sin"
58 posted on 07/01/2004 9:24:12 AM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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MEDIA SUING TO OPEN KERRY'S SEALED DIVORCE PAPERS

More Bias and spin in the many newspaper articles to protect the liberal democrat. Kerry provided NO evidence of an annulment and he was married to Heinz, his second wife worth Billions,  in the back yard of a home on Martha's Vineyard which is not ordinarily allowed for Catholics and there is also NO evidence of any RC priest who married them.

I wish the reporters would question him for the truth. Dream on.

Teresa on the Stump, Teresa Heinz Kerry, from Mozambique, PRO-ABORTION Catholic, UN Employee, etc.

Teresa Heinz Kerry, Drummond Pike and the Communist TIDES FOUNDATION

The Bible and homosexuality [Kerry thinks the bible is for homosexuality]

Kerry’s Dirty Deeds (How, pray tell, do they comport with religious belief

Vatican Worries About Kerry

John Kerry and Unborn Victims

Catholic Pro-Abortion, Pro-Homosexual

Catholic and 100% Pro Abortion

Catholics Kerry and Kennedy have a 100% Pro-homosexual Record with the Human Rights Campaign! Page 10,11

CONGREGATION FOR THE DOCTRINE OF THE FAITH
DOCTRINAL NOTE
on some questions regarding
The Participation of Catholics in Political Life

Living the Gospel of Life:
A Challenge to American Catholics

A Statement by the Catholic Bishops of the United States

Faithful Citizenship:
Civic Responsibility for a New Millennium

Canon Law and Abortion

Sign Petition: To  Excommunicate Pro-Abortion Catholic Politicians

The Gospel of Life--Evangelium Vitae

Herod's Heroes, Sign Petition

Kerry, Candidate and Catholic, Creates Uneasiness for Church

A Primer on Canon 915 Can. 915 Those upon whom the penalty of excommunication or interdict has been imposed or declared, and others who obstinately persist in manifest grave sin, are not to be admitted to holy communion

Excommunicate Kerry Website

Catholics Against Kerry

1400 Ecclesial communities derived from the Reformation and separated from the Catholic Church, "have not preserved the proper reality of the Eucharistic mystery in its fullness, especially because of the absence of the sacrament of Holy Orders."236 It is for this reason that Eucharistic intercommunion with these communities is not possible for the Catholic Church. However these ecclesial communities, "when they commemorate the Lord's death and resurrection in the Holy Supper . . . profess that it signifies life in communion with Christ and await his coming in glory."237

Can.  844 §1. Catholic ministers administer the sacraments licitly to Catholic members of the Christian faithful alone, who likewise receive them licitly from Catholic ministers alone, without prejudice to the prescripts of §§2, 3, and 4 of this canon, and ⇒ can. 861, §2.

Sin to vote for pro-abortion politicians?
By Father Matthew Habiger, OSB

Kerry Will Hold Pro-Abortion Rally Prior to Sunday's Abortion March

59 posted on 07/01/2004 9:24:55 AM PDT by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
Technically, Kerry already merits de facto excommuncation for facilitating abortion and for sacrilege.
While we're doing Kerry's rap sheet, did he ever get an annulment for his first marriage?
60 posted on 07/01/2004 9:25:39 AM PDT by eastsider
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