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Speed of light may have changed recently
New Scientist ^ | 6/30/04 | Eugenie Samuel Reich

Posted on 06/30/2004 1:35:28 PM PDT by NukeMan

Speed of light may have changed recently

19:00 30 June 04

The speed of light, one of the most sacrosanct of the universal physical constants, may have been lower as recently as two billion years ago - and not in some far corner of the universe, but right here on Earth.

The controversial finding is turning up the heat on an already simmering debate, especially since it is based on re-analysis of old data that has long been used to argue for exactly the opposite: the constancy of the speed of light and other constants.

A varying speed of light contradicts Einstein's theory of relativity, and would undermine much of traditional physics. But some physicists believe it would elegantly explain puzzling cosmological phenomena such as the nearly uniform temperature of the universe. It might also support string theories that predict extra spatial dimensions.

The fine structure constant

The threat to the idea of an invariable speed of light comes from measurements of another parameter called the fine structure constant, or alpha, which dictates the strength of the electromagnetic force. The speed of light is inversely proportional to alpha, and though alpha also depends on two other constants (see graphic), many physicists tend to interpret a change in alpha as a change in the speed of light. It is a valid simplification, says Victor Flambaum of the University of New South Wales in Sydney.

It was Flambaum, along with John Webb and colleagues, who first seriously challenged alpha's status as a constant in 1998. Then, after exhaustively analysing how the light from distant quasars was absorbed by intervening gas clouds, they claimed in 2001 that alpha had increased by a few parts in 105 in the past 12 billion years.

Natural nuclear reactor

But then German researchers studying photons emitted by caesium and hydrogen atoms reported earlier in June that they had seen no change in alpha to within a few parts in 1015 over the period from 1999 to 2003 (New Scientist, 26 June) though the result does not rule out that alpha was changing billions of years ago.

Throughout the debate, physicists who argued against any change in alpha have had one set of data to fall back on. It comes from the world's only known natural nuclear reactor, found at Oklo in Gabon, West Africa.

The Oklo reactor started up nearly two billion years ago when groundwater filtered through crevices in the rocks and mixed with uranium ore to trigger a fission reaction that was sustained for hundreds of thousands of years. Several studies that have analysed the relative concentrations of radioactive isotopes left behind at Oklo have concluded that nuclear reactions then were much the same as they are today, which implies alpha was the same too.

That is because alpha directly influences the ratio of these isotopes. In a nuclear chain reaction like the one that occurred at Oklo, the fission of each uranium-235 nucleus produces neutrons, and nearby nuclei can capture these neutrons.

For example, samarium-149 captures a neutron to become samarium-150, and since the rate of neutron capture depends on the value of alpha, the ratio of the two samarium isotopes in samples collected from Oklo can be used to calculate alpha.

A number of studies done since Oklo was discovered have found no change in alpha over time. "People started quoting the reactor [data] as firm evidence that the constants hadn't changed," says Steve Lamoreaux of Los Alamos National Lab (LANL) in Albuquerque, New Mexico.

Energy spectrum

Now, Lamoreaux, along with LANL colleague Justin Torgerson, has re-analysed the Oklo data using what he says are more realistic figures for the energy spectrum of the neutrons present in the reactor. The results have surprised him. Alpha, it seems, has decreased by more than 4.5 parts in 108 since Oklo was live (Physical Review D, vol 69, p121701).

That translates into a very small increase in the speed of light (assuming no change in the other constants that alpha depends on), but Lamoreaux's new analysis is so precise that he can rule out the possibility of zero change in the speed of light. "It's pretty exciting," he says.

So far the re-examination of the Oklo data has not drawn any fire. "The analysis is fine," says Thibault Damour of the Institute of Advanced Scientific Studies (IHES) in Bures-sur-Yvette in France, who co-authored a 1996 Oklo study that found no change in alpha. Peter Moller of LANL, who, along with Japanese researchers, published a paper in 2000 about the Oklo reactor that also found no change in alpha, says that Lamoreaux's assumptions are reasonable.

The analysis might be sound, and the assumptions reasonable, but some physicists are reluctant to accept the conclusions. "I can't see a particular mistake," says Flambaum. "However, the claim is so revolutionary there should be many independent confirmations."

While Flambaum's own team found that alpha was different 12 billion years ago, the new Oklo result claims that alpha was changing as late as two billion years ago. If other methods confirm the Oklo finding, it will leave physicists scrambling for new theories. "It's like opening a gateway," says Dmitry Budker, a colleague of Lamoreaux's at the University of California at Berkeley.

Horizon problem

Some physicists would happily accept a variable alpha. For example, if it had been lower in the past, meaning a higher speed of light, it would solve the "horizon problem".

Cosmologists have struggled to explain why far-flung regions of the universe are at roughly the same temperature. It implies that these regions were once close enough to exchange energy and even out the temperature, yet current models of the early universe prevent this from happening, unless they assume an ultra-fast expansion right after the big bang.

However, a higher speed of light early in the history of the universe would allow energy to pass between these areas in the form of light.

Variable "constants" would also open the door to theories that used to be off limits, such as those which break the laws of conservation of energy. And it would be a boost to versions of string theory in which extra dimensions change the constants of nature at some places in space-time.

But "there is no accepted varying-alpha theory", warns Flambaum. Instead, there are competing theories, from those that predict a linear rate of change in alpha, to those that predict rapid oscillations. John Barrow, who has pioneered varying-alpha theories at the University of Cambridge, says that the latest Oklo result does not favour any of the current theories. "You would expect alpha to stop [changing] five to six billion years ago," he says.

Reaction rate

Before Lamoreaux's Oklo study can count in favour of any varying alpha theory, there are some issues to be addressed. For one, the exact conditions at Oklo are not known. Nuclear reactions run at different rates depending on the temperature of the reactor, which Lamoreaux assumed was between 227 and 527°C.

Damour says the temperature could vary far more than this. "You need to reconstruct the temperature two billion years ago deep down in the ground," he says.

Damour also argues that the relative concentrations of samarium isotopes may not be as well determined as Lamoreaux has assumed, which would make it impossible to rule out an unchanging alpha. But Lamoreaux points out that both assumptions about the temperature of the Oklo reactor and the ratio of samarium isotopes were accepted in previous Oklo studies.

Another unknown is whether other physical constants might have varied along with, or instead of, alpha. Samarium-149's ability to capture a neutron also depends on another constant, alpha(s), which governs the strength of the strong nuclear attraction between the nucleus and the neutron.

And in March, Flambaum claimed that the ratio of different elements left over from just after the big bang suggests that alpha(s) must have been different then compared with its value today (Physical Review D, vol 69, p 063506).

While Lamoreaux has not addressed any possible change in alpha(s) in his Oklo study, he argues that it is important to focus on possible changes in alpha because the Oklo data has become such a benchmark in the debate over whether alpha can vary. "I've spent my career going back and checking things that are 'known' and it always leads to new ideas," he says.

Eugenie Samuel Reich


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: crevolist; lessfilling; light; physics; science; slowdown; speed; speedofzotincreased; stringtheory; tastegreat
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To: El Gato
Hardly, that is the nature of science. New observations contradict old theories and lead, eventually, to new ones. The important thing is the observations.

Should have used one of my remaining </sarcasm> stickers. The people claiming that science is wrong about this and that are all over the map, seriously contradicting each other. They can hardly all be right at once.

101 posted on 06/30/2004 2:28:43 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: PatrickHenry
Dude, that's my line. You're screwing up the script!
102 posted on 06/30/2004 2:29:22 PM PDT by Shryke (Never retreat. Never explain. Get it done and let them howl.)
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To: Rockitz
Oh crap! Now I'm going to have to readjust the warp drive on my Toyota. There goes my holiday weekend.

See? That's what happens when you don't get that extended warrentee

103 posted on 06/30/2004 2:30:05 PM PDT by yankeedame ("Born with the gift of laughter & a sense that the world was mad.")
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To: Shryke
It's also a known fact that I win the debate when you misspell "loser",

There is Webster's and there is FR. You loosers are setting off the beeber.

104 posted on 06/30/2004 2:31:05 PM PDT by RightWhale (Destroy the dark; restore the light)
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To: El Gato
The observations that suggested this assumption were the Michelson-Morely eperiments that attempted to deduce the "true" motion of the earth through the "ether" by measuring differences in the speed of light in different directions. No difference was found.

Right. But I recall reading that Einstein said he probably wasn't aware of the MM experiment at the time he wrote his 1905 paper. It was Maxwell's work that got him going. Something about the results being the same regardless of the motion of the apparatus. I'm working off of an old memory, so I may have it wrong.

105 posted on 06/30/2004 2:33:48 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas.)
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To: PatrickHenry
this placemarker varies 4.5 parts in 108
106 posted on 06/30/2004 2:34:23 PM PDT by longshadow
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To: NukeMan
Can we use this article as proof that the cop's Laser speedtrap was inaccurrate, and therefore unreliable?
107 posted on 06/30/2004 2:34:26 PM PDT by Itzlzha (The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote!)
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To: RightWhale
You loosers are setting off the beeber.

I read the thread - so classic. I am still snickering.

108 posted on 06/30/2004 2:35:19 PM PDT by Shryke (Never retreat. Never explain. Get it done and let them howl.)
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To: El Gato
New observations contradict old theories and lead, eventually, to new ones. The important thing is the observations.

Theory is the attempt to transcend phenomena. Something is gained: the ability to make part of the world your bitch. The unexplained and uncontrollable part goes dark but may someday bite you in the butt.

109 posted on 06/30/2004 2:35:57 PM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: null and void
No Year 0. It'd be 6007 years.

Loser ;^)>

110 posted on 06/30/2004 2:36:45 PM PDT by Junior (FABRICATI DIEM, PVNC)
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To: mikrofon

I'll bet you'd Rather not.


111 posted on 06/30/2004 2:37:13 PM PDT by COUNTrecount
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To: mikrofon


"We could do the same thing with our cars if it wasn't for Big Oil..."

112 posted on 06/30/2004 2:42:28 PM PDT by yankeedame ("Born with the gift of laughter & a sense that the world was mad.")
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To: NutCrackerBoy
Theory is the attempt to transcend phenomena. Something is gained: the ability to make part of the world your bitch

Engineers do that all the time, often with little or no theory, just observations, (and gut instinct) to guide them. Or they used to anyway. I'm more of an "apply the theory" guy myself, but I'm not slavish about it.

113 posted on 06/30/2004 2:43:17 PM PDT by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: martin_fierro
"Posted AT THE EXACT SAME TIME! (Quantum mechanics at work!)"

Now that creates a dilemma. How can two objects occupy the same space at the same time? There must have been a collision, but I didn't hear the sirens.

114 posted on 06/30/2004 2:44:17 PM PDT by Eastbound
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To: longshadow

I stared pretty hard at that "4.5 parts in 108" in the article before realizing it was just the familiar effect of pasting HTML with superscripts. I would not have expected an over 4 percent decrease in the speed of light to be described as a "very small change."


115 posted on 06/30/2004 2:45:48 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: Dahoser

LOL that was good , the things we dads think about...


116 posted on 06/30/2004 2:45:56 PM PDT by highpockets
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To: VadeRetro
If you read down in the article the lower alpha means a faster speed of light. In other words cdk. This has been coming from a gathering and diverse group for over a decade now.

There are a couple of guys over at Berkley and a Russian Physics dude...etc. This is just one more added to the list. It'll still probably take another 10-20 years before all the empirical evidence has enough weight to make it mainstream. But cdk seems to be the gathering momentum ,(for the moment,) as the most promising solution in the quest for the mythical universal constant.

117 posted on 06/30/2004 2:48:44 PM PDT by D Rider
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To: mrs tiggywinkle

ping


118 posted on 06/30/2004 2:52:13 PM PDT by Fidgit
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To: D Rider
OOPs!

I misread it. This seems to say that c is increasing. This seems to be going against the trend. As well as empirical evidence, such as the decay of the cesmium atom as compared to orbital time. Oh well, we'll have to wait and see. For now, I am going to leave my watch set as it is.

119 posted on 06/30/2004 2:53:46 PM PDT by D Rider
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To: NukeMan

global speeding?

(s)Bush's fault(/s)


120 posted on 06/30/2004 2:56:29 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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