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Helen Thomas: Let's Keep Religion Out Of Presidential Race
The Boston Channel/ Hearst Syndicate ^ | June 23, 2004 | Helen Thomas

Posted on 06/24/2004 7:24:12 AM PDT by presidio9

Let's keep religion out of the presidential election campaign. Or is it too late?

Not since 1960 when John F. Kennedy's Catholicism was a big issue has religion played such a prominent role in a national election.

Kennedy confronted the issue head-on when he appeared before the Presbyterian Convention in Houston during the campaign and assured the ministers that he would not be taking orders from the Vatican if he were elected.

Last Friday, the nation's Roman Catholic bishops gave priests the option of denying communion to any politician who supports abortion rights. The bishops issued a statement declaring that lawmakers who support abortion rights are "cooperating in evil."

The bishops' policy affects Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., a Catholic and former altar boy who is the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee.

Kerry has sought to make it clear that he is a secular politician who doesn't want to be viewed through a religious prism.

"I am not a spokesperson for the church and the church is not a spokesperson for the United States of America," he said recently. "I'm running for president and I'm running to uphold the Constitution which has a strict separation of church and state."

The divisive question of the role of church and state in public life rose again at the funeral of President Ronald Reagan when his son, Ron Reagan, took a sharp dig at President Bush.

Reagan's comments came during the burial ceremony at the Reagan Library in Ventura, Calif., following a long day of eulogies for the late president during which Bush had described Reagan as a religious man.

While his father was "deeply and unabashedly religious," his son said, "he never made the fatal mistake of so many politicians -- wearing his faith on his sleeve to gain political advantage."

Ron Reagan admitted that after the 1981 assassination attempt on the president, his father began to believe his life was spared for a purpose.

"But he accepted that as a responsibility, not a mandate," said Reagan. "And there is a profound difference."

Asked later if his remarks were intended to be critical of Bush, Reagan said: "If the shoe fits."

Bush has reportedly sought political support from the Vatican for his opposition to gay marriage, according to the National Catholic Reporter newspaper.

The president appealed to Vatican officials on his trip to Rome earlier this month "to encourage American bishops to take a more active role in promoting their shared social agenda," particularly against gay marriage, the newspaper reported.

The newspaper said Bush had made the request to Cardinal Angelo Soldano, the Vatican's secretary of state, "for the Vatican's help in encouraging them to be more outspoken."

Such activities could run afoul of the church's tax-free status that bars participation in political affairs.

The Bush campaign also is working to cultivate some Protestant groups, particularly Southern Baptists.

A born-again Christian who has placed a religious imprimatur on many aspects of his public life, Bush sometimes gives the impression that he is on a Messianic mission.

When Bob Woodward, the Washington Post writer, asked Bush if he ever sought the advice of his father, President George H.W. Bush, the younger Bush replied, "There's a higher father I look to."

Bush has gone farther in pushing religion than his predecessors by creating a "faith-based" office in the White House. The office is devoted to funneling federal funds to religious charities in competition with traditional government-sponsored social programs.

Bible classes are held weekly in the White House compound. Bush supports the Christian right's policies on such issues as abortion, gay marriages, the withholding of funds from international family planning groups and stem cell research.

Bush was raised in an Episcopalian household and became a Methodist when he married Laura. But his religious fervor grew the guidance of the Rev. Billy Graham and conservative friends who helped him stop drinking.

It will be a sorry state if the voters have to decide which candidate is holier than thou, rather than which candidate stands for the best policies.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: helenthomas; irreligiousleft; ogress; orc; repulsive; ugly; uglytothebone; uglytroll; witch
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To: bmwcyle

I hope that my grand children never see her on tv.

They would have nightmares for months.

She is so typical of the left wing lunatics: Godawful Ugly with a truly vile mouth.


41 posted on 06/24/2004 7:43:06 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (John Fonda al Kerry began his political life as a Pro Commy Vietnam War protester!)
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To: presidio9
I GOT HELEN THOMAS TO HANG UP ON ME
42 posted on 06/24/2004 7:45:51 AM PDT by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: presidio9
Bush has reportedly sought political support from the Vatican for his opposition to gay marriage, according to the National Catholic Reporter newspaper. The president appealed to Vatican officials on his trip to Rome earlier this month "to encourage American bishops to take a more active role in promoting their shared social agenda," particularly against gay marriage, the newspaper reported.

Kinda like when Presidant Jimmah approached the Russian ambassador (can't remember if it was Gromyko or Dobrinyin) to help stop the election of Ronald Reagan, whom Jimmah charaterized as the greatest threat to peace the world had seen?

43 posted on 06/24/2004 7:49:45 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte
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To: presidio9
Helen Thomas: Let's Keep Religion Out Of Presidential Race

And let's keep the beautiful Helen in her assisted living facility where she belongs.

44 posted on 06/24/2004 7:50:07 AM PDT by JesseHousman (Execute Mumia Abu-Jamal)
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To: presidio9
HELEN IS THE TROLL IN THREE BILLY GOATS GRUFF
45 posted on 06/24/2004 7:51:03 AM PDT by doug from upland (Don't wait until it is too late to stop Hillary -- do something today!)
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To: presidio9
I'm running to uphold the Constitution which has a strict separation of church and state."

Ummmm...John...you might want to read it first. That phrase is NOT in there.

46 posted on 06/24/2004 7:51:25 AM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: presidio9

She is such a mouthpiece of the liberal mindset:

When the arguement fails to advance liberalism, remove the arguement from consideration and scrutiny. (a.k.a. dodge and weave politics)

So transparent.


47 posted on 06/24/2004 7:55:57 AM PDT by BluSky (“Don’t make me come down there.”)
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To: cricket

"I cannot help but wonder if she does not have 'family' who are 'Al Queda'. . ."


No way. They'd insist that she wear a veil.


48 posted on 06/24/2004 7:56:27 AM PDT by Blzbba
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To: presidio9

How about if you keep your bias out of reporting Helen--and then we'll talk.


49 posted on 06/24/2004 7:56:55 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: presidio9

Exactly and disgusting. . .


50 posted on 06/24/2004 7:58:23 AM PDT by cricket
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To: presidio9
The office is devoted to funneling federal funds to religious charities in competition with traditional government-sponsored social programs.

Thomas likely wrote this sentence with a straight face but I am positive that the upside-down irony totally escaped the fossilized old scumbag.

51 posted on 06/24/2004 8:00:27 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: presidio9

She's preaching to the wrong person. Religion lives in Bush. Bush doesn't wear it. It is Kerry that 'wears' religion.


52 posted on 06/24/2004 8:01:22 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: presidio9
Why does anyone give this old Sea-Hag any credibility is beyond me? Helen has completely lost it. She is a model for Brain washed. Why can she not see the truth? Unbelievable!
53 posted on 06/24/2004 8:05:43 AM PDT by Sprite518
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To: presidio9

Pay no attention to the babies being turned into hamburger.


54 posted on 06/24/2004 8:05:51 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: presidio9
Hey Helen! We're in a war with people who are trying to convince the entire middle east that we are godless infidels. To the terrorists, anyone who is not a Muslim is an infidel, but to the average Muslim if you believe in God, you are a believer.

I don't expect an old crone like you to get that, but most people who have two functioning brain cells understands that countering the Hollywood portrayal of Amerians as decadent, godless, and corrupt is vital.

55 posted on 06/24/2004 8:08:35 AM PDT by McGavin999 (If Kerry can't deal with the "Republican Attack Machine" how is he going to deal with Al Qaeda)
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To: presidio9
At her age, she should PRAY for religion. heh!
57 posted on 06/24/2004 8:16:04 AM PDT by SheLion (Please register to vote! We can't afford to remain silent!!)
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To: presidio9

So much for her pretentions to being an objective journalist.


58 posted on 06/24/2004 8:16:42 AM PDT by thoughtomator (Islam delenda est)
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To: presidio9

Your pics are proof of what years of liberal, PC, double-tounged, truth-denial thought processes can do to person's overall physical well being.


59 posted on 06/24/2004 8:18:03 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: presidio9

Father Robert Drinan, S.J., the heretic priest who gave major aid and comfort to the abortion movement while in congress and afterward, has said that Kerry was stupid to make communion an issue. He was right.

If Helen Thomas wants to keep religion out of the race, then why is she herself injecting the issue? Of course it's bad for Kerry. It's just one more issue that he has to waffle on in public.


60 posted on 06/24/2004 8:20:27 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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