Threat Matrix: Daily Terror Threat - Thread Eleven

WND ^ | 6/24/04 | N/A

[JustPiper]

Picture credit: TheCabal

"I will never cower before any master nor bend to any threat"

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Iran seeks swap of Brits for suicide attackers

Report says 40 Revolutionary Guard 'volunteers' held by UK

Iran apprehended British military personnel and Navy vessels earlier this week in order to secure release of 40 "suicide operations volunteers" held by the UK, according to an Iranian Revolutionary Guard source.

The source told the London Arabic-language daily Al-Sharq Al-Awsat that the British Army command in Iraq received the demand from the Revolutionary Guard, reported the Middle East Media Research Institute.

According to the source, the content of the message was very simple: "Release our comrades, whom you are holding, and we will release your soldiers."

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We are the "Stotters" who make ourselves aware of the enemy who wishes to do us harm

[nw_arizona_granny]

It all started with clicking your states link at the bottom of the link in message #480.

[WestCoastGal]

They are the filth of the earth that is for sure. I wish there was a deportation clause for being and acting like traitors.

I have been fighting this illegal invasion here for years. We would not have half the problems we do if someone had enforced the border.

Why do we have electric shortages, why are gas prices so high, why are our auto and health insurance costs so high, why do we have diseases now that have been eradicated for years, why is there so much traffic, why are our emergency rooms going broke & closing, why do we need so many police, why are ALL the reasonable rent neighborhoods unfit to live in, why is there so much crime, why is there graffiti over everything, why is our air polluted from over population, why are there drugs everywhere, why do I have to pay for paperwork in English & Spanish, why are teachers required to speak Spanish, why do I have to speak Spanish to get a job????? I have more but I will stop for now.

[Velveeta]

Train 1119

Coincidence??? (Naaaahhhhh)

[GorillaMa]

where/what is the backup board?

[jerseygirl]

Just stopped in and quickly rushed through the thread- hope to get back on later today.

I was thinking about that jakel picture of NYC that we saw last fall- the one with the nuke over the city, and the wake of a boat.

I had thought for a long time that they might use small speedboats to lob a nuke or other into Manhatten.

However, someone here had mentioned that the wake looked like that which a larger boat would make, such as a ferry.

I think it might be a good idea to take a look at the picture again and try to figure out what kind of boat could be the possible delivery mode.

The AQ's tend to be obsessive with their details....

Just a thought....

[jerseygirl]

Manhattan.

[WestCoastGal]

"According to Muhammad’s sacralized biography by Ibn Ishaq, Muhammad himself sanctioned the massacre of the Qurayza, a vanquished Jewish tribe. He appointed an "arbiter" who soon rendered this concise verdict: the men were to be put to death, the women and children sold into slavery, the spoils to be divided among the Muslims. Muhammad ratified this judgment stating that it was a decree of God pronounced from above the Seven Heavens. Thus some 600 to 900 men from the Qurayza were lead on Muhammad’s order to the Market of Medina. Trenches were dug and the men were beheaded, and their decapitated corpses buried in the trenches while Muhammad watched in attendance. Women and children were sold into slavery, a number of them being distributed as gifts among Muhammad’s companions, and Muhammad chose one of the Qurayza women (Rayhana) for himself. The Qurayza’s property and other possessions (including weapons) were also divided up as additional "booty" among the Muslims, to support further jihad campaigns."

YEP, that's the religion of peace alright!

[milkncookies]

I believe our war on terror has gone global.

[nw_arizona_granny]

I would put this in the same class with planes who loose parts while in flight.

Watch for the report of "This is not Terrorist related".

Loosen the nutts on the bolts and sooner or later the wheel falls off.

[Calpernia]

>>>>"WASHINGTON [MENL] -- The United States has sent a tough message to Saudi Arabia that did not rule out the abandoning of the kingdom's oil sector."

I'm still 100s of posts behind. But I have a little background to add here.

Our buying oil from the Saudi's was a deal that was created in 1945 made between Roosevelt and King Abdulaziz bin Saud.

Article that shows history:

After World War II, the kingdom’s vast oil reserves and willingness to use its production capacity to ensure moderate and stable world oil prices were rightly judged to be vital to American national security. In return for these strategic assets, the United States pledged to protect the kingdom’s oil supplies and obstruct those who would seek to control them, particularly the Soviet Union.

Cracks in the Marriage. The first indications that the foundations of this partnership were eroding came in the early 1970s, when the Saudis took the lead in establishing the OPEC oil cartel. Saudi Arabia was among the three leading instigators of the 1973 embargo on oil shipments to the United States and was the principal beneficiary of it. Rather than standing by the United States at a time when tensions between American and Soviet naval vessels in the Mediterranean were at an all-time high, the Saudis cut off oil supplies to the U.S. navy in October of that year.

The rationale for this partnership completely unraveled following the 1979 establishment of an Islamic Republic in Tehran, when Iranian clerics challenged the religious credentials of the Saudi monarchy. Ayatollah Khomeini condemned Saudi royals as corrupt, venal and decidedly un-Islamic. That they should be challenged at all was bad enough - that they should be challenged by Shiites, regarded as a heretical sect by most Sunni Muslims, was intolerable.

The Saudi Royal Family. Since it established control over the Arabia peninsula in the 1920s, the Saudi royal family has claimed to be the guardian of Islam’s two holiest sites – Mecca and Medina – and prides itself on upholding the “purest” form of Islam, known as Wahhabism. Wahhabism dates back to a pact between eighteenth century Arabian zealot Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab and a desert brigand named Ibn Saud, which enshrined an alliance through marriage that produced the Saudi royal family. Until the late 1970s, Wahhabism was an extreme sect that happened to rule Saudi Arabia, but did not bother too many outside the kingdom’s borders. To counter the proliferation of anti-Saudi Iranian propaganda, however, the Saudis decided to spread Wahhabi teachings abroad. The royal family’s oil wealth poured into countries throughout the Islamic world, from West Africa to Indonesia, fueling a proliferation of madrasas (religious schools) that indoctrinated a new generation of Islamists. Even in the United States, Muslim children studied Islamic primers shipped from Wahhabi institutes in Saudi Arabia.

The Monster they Created. The Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in December 1979 provided the kingdom with an ideal opportunity to sponsor a bona fide ‘holy war’ that would showcase Wahhabi ideals and quiet Iranian-inspired Islamist opposition to the monarchy. Madrasas around the Arab and Islamic world produced shock troops for this jihad. After the Russians were driven out of Afghanistan, these “Arab Afghans” began trickling home and looked for other jihads. The Saudis had created a monster; to be sure they did not wreak havoc inside the kingdom, bin Laden and other Saudi Islamists were encouraged to wage ‘holy war’ abroad. When the Clinton administration cornered Osama bin Laden in the Sudan in 1998, the Saudis refused to allow his extradition back home, where he could be neutralized. Instead, the Saudi intelligence chief – Prince Turki – reportedly offered bin Laden $200 million to go to Afghanistan, on the condition that he not target the Saudi royal family. Bin Laden honored his promise – there has not been a single attack by Al-Qaeda against the Al-Saud family. Inside the kingdom, Al-Qaeda has only operated against the Americans and the British. Over time, the understanding became that bin Laden would leave the Saudis alone only if they allowed the network of charities funding Al-Qaeda to operate unhindered. On the day after the September 11 attacks, the first thing Riyadh did was evacuate two dozen members of the bin Laden family residing in the U.S. on the private jet of its ambassador, Prince Bandar.

With the end of the Cold War, the most persuasive reasons for maintaining the marriage of convenience with Saudi Arabia disappeared. With the September 11 attacks, the returns on this partnership went from zero to negative. The Saudis have become the friends of our enemies and the enemies of our friends. Bin Laden is an extension of Saudi foreign policy. To be fair, the Saudis don’t quite know how to deal with the monster they’ve created – so far they’ve avoided tough choices. As long as the benefits of sponsoring terror are enormous and the costs of sponsoring terror are negligible, they will not take decisive action. The U.S. must therefore make the costs of funding Wahhabi extremism terribly high, while making the benefits slim pickings.

http://www.meireview.com/v2.02/commentary/murawiec.php

We don't need oil from Saudi at all. Gull Island has as much (or more) crude oil on the North Slope of Alaska as in Saudi Arabia.

There are many hundreds of square miles of oil under the North Slope of Alaska.

We have wells all ready drill here. The government permitted the oil companies to drill and prove many sites (subsequently making them cap the wells), but they do not allow them to produce from the wells. The only production permitted is from the small area of the North Slope.

http://www.anwr.org/features/pdfs/tech-facts.pdf

We can out produce anyone with oil. But buying oil from abroad as well as all the outsourcing and trading we do is for negotiation tactics. It is leverage to maintain allies.

[Velveeta]

LOL! Doesn't even look good on the web-site, Granny.

There's no stock, no product, no patents.

Too many errors to be considered "professional" even for this untrained eye.

I picture this ruse as being similar to the Nigerian e-mail scammers who keep wanting to put 7 million dollars into my bank account.

Mr. Dan J. Thomas Jr. couldn't even manage to type up his annual report:
http://www.sunbiz.org/COR/2004/0512/183007A4.tif

[Velveeta]

Oh, and one more thing:

Their "incorporation lawyer" is an "online lawyer":
http://www.amerilawyer.com/

[nwctwx]

I ordered the book off Amazon, hopefully it should be here before my trip to Florida next week. I can read it on the plane. ;) Peter Lance mentions Emerson several times in his book 1,000 years for revenge.

Don't get me wrong, I do not believe that everyone in the MSA has good intentions. I am VERY skeptical about some of the people I meet in my travels. There are several students that I have 'seen' but not 'met' that have triggered some internal alarms. I have also witnessed 'recruitment,' by means of informing new students about Islam (the MSA sets up a table/booth from time to time on campus), usually at the beginning of the year.

Again, I have met several students that honestly have good intentions.

A book can tell you a lot, and it is probably mostly correct. That said, there are many people who fear the unknown, and in many cases it (the unknown) is not quite as bad as it is feared to be. In general, I can see how universities are a hotbed for extremist activity (not only on the Muslim end). Liberals love extremists! My school is unfortunately quite liberal. UConn’s MSA is relatively small. I am sure there are a few bad-apples but I choose not to pass judgment on everyone I meet and I am wary of those who seem to have hidden agendas.

I have had several Arab professors for my Middle Eastern politics classes. They do not agree with everything the US has done, but I would not classify them as the enemy.

Don't worry about anyone applying their belief system to me. I may be a 'youngin' but I have the head of an old man on my shoulders. I know what to look out for. Hopefully, tracking the enemy will be my job in the future!

Thanks for the links; I have read the jihadwatch one and I will look through the google pages later today.

[nw_arizona_granny]

Good thinking.

What has it been, 2 or 3 weeks since the aluminium boat in Seattle was loaded with explosives and floated towards the ferry?

My Sis in Seattle, said there was not a news release there that she had heard.

Yet, it was a Seattle source we got it from.

so your thoughts are good.

Keep thinking.

[Pegita]

Heavenly Father, we return to give You thanks that Your Word stands in absolute truth:

"For the Lord knows the way of the righteous, but the way of the ungodly shall perish." Psalm 1:6

We take heart, O Lord, that our President travels the path of righteousness ... that he has commanded our beloved defenders in liberation and freedom, and that he stands resolute in mission. For this cause, he is reviled, for darkness cannot live when exposed to the light. Protect him as he steps on foreign soil, for many there are who would destroy him. We under gird him in prayer and petition, for great is his resolve to boldly face such opposition. Keep all manner of harm from him, O God, and return him safely. Work in the hearts of those he meets, that they might recognize his love of liberty for all people. Draw others to the side of freedom, that they, too, might advance the cause of liberty and justice.

We see, O God, that the enemy is stirred to increasing fury, for his time is short. May the wicked be set aside as the Iraqi people begin their national life. Bring forth those who cause death and destruction, that they be rendered harmless ... protect those who are in search of the enemy ... grant them success. May the citizenry flourish in the sunshine of freedom and liberty ... prosper them beyond measure as this new way of life takes hold. Bring forth the name of the Lord God Almighty to a people hungry to know the Truth. May eternal blessing be upon these days, in the Name of Jesus, I pray, Amen ...

[Calpernia]

NW_AZ, we know your computer uses Google. How about a Google mail account?

https://gmail.google.com/?dest=http%3A%2F%2Fgmail.google.com%2Fgmail

[appalachian_dweller]

Thanks. Some of these folks are just disgusting. Useful idiots. The unknowing 5th Column....

We pull out of Iraq and we'll be fighting the WOT on Main Street America. Don't want to see that happen, but I am prepared and ready for it. So are my friends.

Wonder how these folks will scream when their loved ones are taken out in a shopping mall bombing?

[Calpernia]

BUMP! Great minds think alike!

[WestCoastGal]

"We don't need oil from Saudi at all. Gull Island has as much (or more) crude oil on the North Slope of Alaska as in Saudi Arabia. There are many hundreds of square miles of oil under the North Slope of Alaska. We have wells all ready drill here. The government permitted the oil companies to drill and prove many sites (subsequently making them cap the wells), but they do not allow them to produce from the wells. The only production permitted is from the small area of the North Slope."

Thanks great background info on this problem with the Saudi's.

What will the envirowhackos say about this? Then there's the old boys club in Congress fighting this drilling every step of the way.

How long would it take to go full speed ahead to keep us going? I know we have emergency supplies, but could we keep up with the demand if the oil in SA was compromised either by the Kingdom (doubtful) or by the terrorists (very possible)?

[GorillaMa]

His writings seem schizophrenic and messianic. Maybe he accidentally fried some of his own circuiting with those tetra-waves...