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The Modern-Day American Dad: Conservative, Fat, and Unwilling To Let His Woman Stay Home
PR Newswire ^ | June 14 | Euro RSCG Worldwide survey

Posted on 06/14/2004 6:54:52 PM PDT by summer

The Modern-Day American Dad: Conservative, Fat, and Unwilling To Let His Woman Stay Home

Euro RSCG Worldwide Unveils Trends Taking Shape Among U.S. Dads



NEW YORK, June 14 /PRNewswire/ -- As children head to the malls to buy ties and cologne for dear old dad for Father's Day, Euro RSCG Worldwide, a global communications agency, has undertaken an online survey that reveals just who these modern-day dads are. The findings might surprise you.

It turns out Dad is one complicated guy. On the one hand, he's a big old traditionalist -- opposed to same-sex marriage, in favor of spanking, more opposed to divorce. On the other hand, he's less likely than his wife to think it's OK for a woman to stay home with the kids, and he's more likely to enjoy grocery shopping. Who knew?

"What our study has revealed is that there isn't just a gender divide in America, there's also a divide between men who are dads and men who aren't," says Marian Salzman, EVP and Chief Strategy Officer of Euro RSCG Worldwide.

"Today's dad is much more conservative on social issues, and this may have to do with the fact that, even as men are being called on to be more nurturing and involved, their traditional role as 'protector' has become much more difficult. In addition to all the old threats children faced, including substance abuse and hanging around with the 'wrong crowd,' there is now school violence, inappropriate media content available in the home through multiple channels, and, of course, the threat of terrorism. Dads seem to be the ones trying to hold back the line."

In February 2004, Market Probe International surveyed 1,982 Americans online on behalf of Euro RSCG. Among the findings:

* Dads are more likely than their wives to let the bible into the bedroom: 44% of dads say religion factors into their sex lives. In contrast, only 38% of non-dads and 35% of moms agreed.

* Someone forgot to tell dads that they were the ones who wanted to keep women out of the workforce in the first place. Now more women want to return to the home, and men won't let them! A great majority of moms surveyed (83%) think it's fine for a woman to be a homemaker and not do paid work. In contrast, only 66% of dads (and 60% of non-dads) agree with the wife-as-homemaker idea.

* Dads are also significantly more likely than their spouses to believe that divorce should be the absolute last resort (86% of dads agree vs. just 75% of moms).

* Fully 60% of dads consider monogamy a natural state for human beings, compared with just 47% of non-dads and 61% of moms.

* And speaking of sex ... they want it. An overwhelming 81% of dads believe men and women are entitled to expect regular sex from their partners. Tough luck for a lot of them, since only 65% of moms (and 56% of non-moms) feel the same way. Interestingly, only 68% of non-dads think regular sex should be expected, suggesting they may be less frustrated by the conjugal killers known as "children."

* Does the modern-day dad talk openly with his kids about sex? Not on your life. Only 42% of dads do so, compared with 56% of moms.

* When dads do talk about sex, it's not likely to be about anything other than heterosexual unions. Compared with women and non-dads, the fathers in the sample were substantially less likely to agree that same-sex partnerships/"marriages" should be accorded the same status as man- woman marriages. Only 27% of dads support same-sex marriage, compared with 34% of moms, 37% of non-dads, and a whopping 47% of non-moms.

* Is shopping fun? Not according to dads. Just over one-third (38%) of dads said they enjoy shopping and consider it a recreational activity, whereas most moms (55%) feel that way. That might explain all the men slumped on benches at the mall. One thing they do enjoy more than their spouses is food shopping: 41% of dads vs. 39% of moms consider that among their favorite chores.

* A clean home may be a sign of godliness, but it has nothing to do with manliness, say a majority of dads. Only 31% of dads agreed they enjoy shopping for household cleaning products and consider a clean home "fundamentally me"; in contrast, a slight majority of moms (51%) feel that way, as do 48% of non-moms. Non-dads? Fuggedaboutit. Only 25% agreed with that statement.

* Someone forgot to tell dads about metrosexuality. Just 6% of them read fashion magazines, follow fashion seasons, and notice new collections. Twice as many non-dads (12%) do so.

* Nonetheless, 81% of dads claim to take pride in their appearance. That's not quite as many as moms (88%), but it's more than non-dads and marginally more than non-moms (76% and 80%, respectively).

* Spare the rod? No way, say a majority of American dads: 55% of dads in the sample (and 53% of moms) consider spanking an appropriate disciplinary technique.

* 45% of dads (and 51% of moms) consider themselves better parents than their own parents were. Only 13% of both groups believe the opposite.

* A very substantial 82% of dads (and 79% of moms) say they are much more aware of the nutritional/health value of foods than they used to be, but that hasn't stopped 59% of them (and 63% of moms) from considering themselves overweight. Part of the problem is that nearly two-thirds of dads (65%) are less physically active now than they were 10 years ago. Only 59% of moms, 51% of non-dads, and 49% of non-moms are less active today.

"The modern-American dad stands out from the rest of the population on so many important issues," says Salzman. "What we find most interesting from a trends perspective is this postfeminist role reversal in which men are vying to keep women in the workforce while women are trying to move back to the home. Today's dad is eager to keep some things as they were in the mid-20th century, but< he's unwilling-and perhaps unable-to shoulder his household's financial burden without help from his spouse. This has important implications for marketers, certainly, but it also is having a tremendous impact on American life. As men and women increasingly seek a better life-work balance, we can expect to see even more of a clash within households in which both partners are looking to pull back on the work front. We may well see a stronger trend toward downsizing and simplification among couples who are willing to have less in order to be able to do less."

For more information on Euro RSCG's Prosumer Pulse(R) 2004 study or to arrange an interview with one of its authors, please contact the person listed below.[....]


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: dads; males
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To: SouthCarolinaPaleo

RE your post #49 - Re reading and your child - good for you!


61 posted on 06/14/2004 8:17:40 PM PDT by summer
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To: Chgogal
By the third day I had everything down pat. By the fourth day I missed work.

LOL....I knew someone like that. He had an extremely high level job and did great, but when his wife took off for a few days out of town to go to a funeral or something, and he had to take the of the kids, oh, what a disaster. :)
62 posted on 06/14/2004 8:19:04 PM PDT by summer
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To: John Lenin

Well, I found it odd they were more concerned with homosexual marriage than how dads relate to their kids. But maybe they are promoting only a portion of their questions, and they think the homosexual marriage will get them more attention for their survey. I don't know. I'm just guessing.


63 posted on 06/14/2004 8:20:58 PM PDT by summer
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To: summer

I deal with a lot of undergraduates. The young men are very clear - when they get married they want a wife with a professional career. Who knows what they're going to want when they're 35 or 40. But for now most feel strongly they want their wives to have a high paying professional career. (emphasis on high paying)


64 posted on 06/14/2004 8:22:14 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: summer

If You Wanna Be Happy
Jimmy Soul

If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
So for my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you

If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
So for my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you

A pretty woman makes her husband look small
And very often causes his downfall
As soon as he married her and then she starts
To do the things that will break his heart

But if you make an ugly woman your wife
A-you'll be happy for the rest of your life
An ug-a-ly woman cooks meals on time
And she'll always give you peace of mind

If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
So for my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you

Sax solo

Don't let your friends say you have no taste
Go ahead and marry anyway
Though her face is ugly, her eyes don't match
Take it from me, she's a better catch

If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
So for my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you

Spoken:
Say man!
Hey baby!
I saw your wife the other day!
Yeah?
Yeah, an' she's ug-leeee!
Yeah, she's ugly, but she sure can cook, baby!
Yeah, alright!

If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
So for my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you

If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
So for my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you

If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
So for my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you

If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
So for my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you


65 posted on 06/14/2004 8:25:27 PM PDT by Ben Chad
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To: ladyjane
I deal with a lot of undergraduates. The young men are very clear - when they get married they want a wife with a professional career. Who knows what they're going to want when they're 35 or 40. But for now most feel strongly they want their wives to have a high paying professional career. (emphasis on high paying)

And that puts a lot of pressure on women, especially those women who go into careers like teaching. You feel like you're never going to earn enough.
66 posted on 06/14/2004 8:28:48 PM PDT by summer
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To: Ben Chad

LOL... :)


67 posted on 06/14/2004 8:29:40 PM PDT by summer
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To: summer

68 posted on 06/14/2004 8:31:31 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: John Lenin

You lost me with that.


69 posted on 06/14/2004 8:35:21 PM PDT by summer
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To: summer
Pink Swastika
71 posted on 06/14/2004 8:52:31 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: summer

I want my wife to work and bring home some money IF she is not going to keep the house neat and clean and if she's going to spend like we have two salaries!


72 posted on 06/14/2004 8:53:55 PM PDT by Coachm
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To: summer

Bravo! I admit I get a very nice meal when I get home but the house is not cleaned as it should be and the kids are not up to their homework. The phone however is usually warm from overuse.


74 posted on 06/14/2004 9:02:47 PM PDT by Coachm
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To: summer

just reread you post. Mine is a non-working woman and those things don't get done!


75 posted on 06/14/2004 9:03:54 PM PDT by Coachm
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To: Varda
"most men want a woman who works"

Yes, but it's not about the extra income or the big toys. It's insurance against alimony and community property divisions........when it's ALL their property.

While the VAST majority of women would preserve no-fault divorce and community property laws, they would also have us marry, let them stay home.....and divorce whenever they wish for whatever reason they wish.

I advise all young men to avoid marriage and the siring of children unless they're REALLY sure about the woman, and she's gainfully employed.

My idea is better: I'll stay home, cook, clean, raise the kids, run errands all day...she works...and I'll give her sex every night upon her arrival back home:)

76 posted on 06/14/2004 9:11:01 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: summer

That is just it. It was not a disaster. All my sister's friends thought they would be called in to help out. It was just not necessary. They were surprised, although I don't know why. When my sister and brother-in-law came home we had a nice tete a tete. I told my brother-in-law in private, that he is lucky. I would not appreciate the benefits of staying at home like my wonderful sister does.

Did some how miscommunicate? I'm sorry if I wasn't clear.

Well I guess I did an OK job....my sister wants me to do it again in August.


77 posted on 06/14/2004 9:31:12 PM PDT by Chgogal (Fellow Democrats, don't be stingy with Freedom and Liberty. Win won for the Gipper!)
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To: Mariner
" it's not about the extra income or the big toys. It's insurance against alimony and community property divisions........when it's ALL their property."

Actually I think what you named is just more in the same category of "toys" or more accurately, material goods. I would bet against the long term prospects of a marriage where the preservation of property was the guiding factor in a marriage decision. Men and women both do this I know... it's not a good trend.
78 posted on 06/14/2004 10:00:00 PM PDT by Varda
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To: Capriole

I think part of the reason is so many people are living so close to the edge.


79 posted on 06/14/2004 10:42:42 PM PDT by Valin (Hatred is the coward's revenge)
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To: Mariner

and I'll give her sex every night upon her arrival back home:)

WHAT A GUY! :-)


80 posted on 06/14/2004 10:44:22 PM PDT by Valin (Hatred is the coward's revenge)
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