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The Modern-Day American Dad: Conservative, Fat, and Unwilling To Let His Woman Stay Home
PR Newswire ^ | June 14 | Euro RSCG Worldwide survey

Posted on 06/14/2004 6:54:52 PM PDT by summer

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To: Varda
it's not a good trend

I agree. My parents' generation was very different, as those people seemed to have started out by believing more in themselves and as a unit or team when they married, as opposed to worrying how to divide what, when and if the marriage collapsed. The couples of their generation have been married, 30, 40, 50 years, etc. Somehow love really was enough in their time.
81 posted on 06/14/2004 10:44:41 PM PDT by summer
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To: summer
I agree. My parents' generation was very different, as those people seemed to have started out by believing more in themselves and as a unit or team when they married, as opposed to worrying how to divide what, when and if the marriage collapsed. The couples of their generation have been married, 30, 40, 50 years, etc. Somehow love really was enough in their time.

Or it was something beyond or other than love. For one back then there was alimony --- a man would have to pay a wife if he dumped her for another. Then there was a different social climate -- more people stayed near their families and families put a lot of pressure on married couples to stay together. And more people lived in small towns --- and we all know there is no privacy in small towns, less ability to cheat and run around when everyone knows everyone.

You were just expected to get married and stay married --- "fulfillment" and "romance" and trying to find your "soul mate" if the first one didn't turn out to be wasn't the way they thought. Plus fewer women worked along side men so there were less opportunities for many to cheat in the workplace.

82 posted on 06/14/2004 10:56:58 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: ladyjane
But for now most feel strongly they want their wives to have a high paying professional career. (emphasis on high paying)

I can see why they would because it seems that in marriages with two incomes not only is there more money when the marriage works out but if something goes wrong there isn't going to be the same fight in the divorce --- the judge tends to allow a man much more of his income if the wife has a good income of her own, she's also not as desperate to go after his paycheck and can survive on her own. The divorce is likely to be a bit more equal.

83 posted on 06/14/2004 11:03:30 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: FITZ

You make good points, but how ironic it is, that with all the greater opportunities to meet a mate, and with women earning money, the end result is: more divorce, fewer marriages, and the lowest birth rate in decades. Something went wrong along the way.


84 posted on 06/14/2004 11:13:52 PM PDT by summer
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To: summer

I read to my kids quite a bit. We also cover the modern political scene.


86 posted on 06/15/2004 6:47:08 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: summer

Wow, I'm a hard core conservative then... I want and believe my wife should stay home.. yes it hurts our pocket book, but it helps our kids more than any amount of money. Of course part of her staying home means she has to do the work that is entitled with staying home as well, keeping the house, cooking, cleaning etc.

Anyway, for all you "working mom's" out there who want to stay home but hubby won't let ya... sorry to hear ya hitched so poorly.


87 posted on 06/15/2004 6:53:54 AM PDT by HamiltonJay ("You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.")
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To: ladyjane

Well like most things, Undergraduates don't know crap about crap.... Hell with wife working. I am not opposed to it if it is needed, but last thing I want is a wife working because she "wants" to.

I want a woman who knows that marriage is an emotional partnership, not a financial one. I want her to stay home, cook, clean, take care of the house and kids.... so that they have a stable and constant adult looking out for them during the day.... and leaving me free to focuse my work energies on work... (not needing to figure out who's going to miss work to go talk to teacher this week) and when I come home, be able to unwind and enjoy my family.

I have absolutely no desire to be with a woman who thinks income is more important than family, and frankly any woman willing to put work ahead of her kids and family voluntarily is definately not a woman I want to be involved with.

Conversely if she's the bread winner, I got no problem doing the house husband thing either... I just don't buy into one minute of the gobbledy gook that Carreer is more important than kids.

Sorry Ladies, I don't care what the feminist movement tells you... you do your children no favors putting them in day care all day, or letting others raise them. Now I understand some have no choice, and that is fine, I am speaking to those who do have a choice and buy into the lie that they aren't hurting anyone.

Like the Seargant said, "When young men lie dying on the battlefield, parts of them blown off, they don't cry out for their teacher or day care worker... they call out for their Mothers." Do not shame yourselves by short selling the importance that time with your child is.

Once the children are raised, go out and do whatever, but during the time they are at home, don't... or find a part time thing that can work from the house. Don't get caught in the trap and lies.


88 posted on 06/15/2004 7:05:13 AM PDT by HamiltonJay ("You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.")
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To: summer
Thank you. However, the biggest point, and the article does not address this: For how long have females comprised the "Democratic" vote? Too long, IMHO. What this means is females are responsible, by numbers, for voting in major tax burdens. These tax burdens, in many locations, make it virtually impossible for a family to live on one income.

How is it that so many women can wonder that a daddy might think it necessary for females to help pay the burden of their individual vote?

89 posted on 06/15/2004 7:49:48 AM PDT by Alia (California -- It's Groovy! Baby!)
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To: Capriole
I don't get it, myself--you'd think any man would want to come home to a home-cooked dinner, an apple pie, a clean, orderly house, ironed shirts, and a wife who has the time to keep herself in shape and isn't too tired for sex.

I think I would need at least three wives for all that. I generally just settle for "someone who gives a flying flip about the welfare of the kids during the day."

90 posted on 06/15/2004 8:02:51 AM PDT by hopespringseternal (People should be banned for sophistry.)
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To: summer
You make good points, but how ironic it is, that with all the greater opportunities to meet a mate, and with women earning money, the end result is: more divorce, fewer marriages, and the lowest birth rate in decades. Something went wrong along the way.

Yes, we have automatic dishwashers, and the dishes are always dirty. We have washing machines and dryers, and the clothes are never clean. We have extremely low maintenance automobiles, and the errands are never run. We have microwaves, automatic ovens and ranges, and the food is never prepared. We have vacuum cleaners, and the floor is always dirty.

Our children are undisciplined, our houses are a mess, and sex is nonexistent.

That is why men want women to go to work.

91 posted on 06/15/2004 8:22:49 AM PDT by hopespringseternal (People should be banned for sophistry.)
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To: summer
The Modern-Day American Dad: Conservative, Fat, and Unwilling To Let His Woman Stay Home

I'm conservative, thin (a little too thin), and my wife stays home with our two children. I wouldn't have it any other way.

92 posted on 06/15/2004 8:26:24 AM PDT by al_c
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To: hopespringseternal

I'm a stay-at-home mother with a 15 month old. It is all I can do to keep the breakfast/lunch/dinner remains off the floor, the child entertained, diapers changed and toys out of the major pathways so that we can walk... I feel a little guilty that the house gets out of control sometimes because I'm here all day while he's at work.

I love every minute of being with my child and am thankful that my husband and I made it a priority for me to be here. IMO it is the hardest and most rewarding thing I've ever done.


93 posted on 06/15/2004 8:37:41 AM PDT by pnz1
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To: Chgogal

RE your post #77 - Thanks for explaining that. :)


94 posted on 06/15/2004 9:08:27 AM PDT by summer
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To: Motherbear
we're suppose to learn contentment in whatever situation we're in , but I'm a very poor student at that! LOL

LOL... :)
95 posted on 06/15/2004 9:09:22 AM PDT by summer
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To: <1/1,000,000th%

Re your post #86 - A+ for you! :)


96 posted on 06/15/2004 9:09:50 AM PDT by summer
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To: HamiltonJay

Re your post #87 - There are very few men on this thread who said what you did, that you prefer your wife satying home. In fact, I think you're the first. Thanks for your post.


97 posted on 06/15/2004 9:10:54 AM PDT by summer
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To: hopespringseternal
...Our children are undisciplined, our houses are a mess, and sex is nonexistent.

That is why men want women to go to work.


Well, you certainly made a case for it. Thanks for your post. :)
98 posted on 06/15/2004 9:17:07 AM PDT by summer
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To: pnz1
I love every minute of being with my child

Good for you! :)
99 posted on 06/15/2004 9:17:42 AM PDT by summer
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To: Capriole
I remember the wife of my husband's friend telling him that I would probably be happier if I worked outside the home and that she thought he was just keeping me from working. Meanwhile, she would send her son to a babysitter, work for barely above minimum wage as a caregiver for a group home, then come home to yell at her son.
We decided long ago it wasn't worth it for me to work just to pay someone else to watch our children. If I want to yell at them, I have all day to do it. lol.
100 posted on 06/15/2004 9:18:03 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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