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Your Right to Use Vitamins Is in Jeopardy, Senators Push Regulatory Assault on Vitamins
HUMAN EVENTS ^ | 09.03.03 | Dr. Julian Whitaker

Posted on 06/09/2004 7:11:35 PM PDT by Coleus

Your Right to Use Nutritional Supplements Is in Jeopardy
Senators Push Regulatory Assault on Vitamins

by Dr. Julian Whitaker

Posted Sep 3, 2003

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We need to take action, and we need to take action now. There is a movement in Congress to push through legislation that would restrict your freedom to use nutritional supplements, and could destroy the nutritional supplement industry?and, in the process, endanger your health.

Here is the problem. Reacting to the hysteria over ephedra, Sen. Richard J. Durbin (D.-Ill.) has introduced S. 722, cosponsored by colleagues Hillary Clinton (D.-N.Y.), Dianne Feinstein (D.-Calif.), and Charles Schumer (D.-N.Y.). The bill gives unprecedented power to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to remove nutritional supplements from the market. Here’s how:



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: atkins; atkinsdiet; benny; democrat; dratkins; dshea; fda; food; foodsupplements; health; healthcare; hillary; hillarycare; hillaryhealthcare; jonathanvwright; minerals; nannystate; rights; s722; supplements; vitamins; wod; wodlist
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To: cyborg
SOaB!!!!
61 posted on 06/10/2004 11:08:30 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: Coleus

Bump


62 posted on 06/10/2004 11:09:04 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: Dead Corpse

When they came for the Prohormones, I wasn't a juicehead so I didnt speak out.Then they came for the Ephedra and the norepinephrine, but i wasn't fat or tired, so I didn't speak out.When they came for the Vitamins.....


63 posted on 06/10/2004 11:10:44 AM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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To: discostu
I'm paying attention to recent history.

Yours is a wholesale surrender to socialism. Rather than fight the assertion that people are owed entitlements (perish the thought, now that Republicans are too buying votes), you would foresake the concept of rights altogether.

As conservatives, our core values are :

As a free people we reserve a nearly infinite set of non-enumerated rights. And no one owes you help in exercising a single one of those rights.

Rights + responsibility. Are these not conservative values?

64 posted on 06/10/2004 11:10:55 AM PDT by freeeee ("Owning" property in the US just means you have one less landlord.)
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To: freeeee

Yeah the objective parameter is that rights shouldn't include silly things. You don't have a right to wear paisleys, you don't have a right to pick your nose, you don't have a right to see he Jackass movie, you don't have a right to have chocolate cake for breakfast, you don't have a right to be an annoying git. It's just logic man, when you establish something as a right then you're declaring that any interference with your ability to do it is wrong, so then suddenly if the vitamin industry goes TU because nobody wants their stuff this is a terrible thing that's destroying the rights of American.


65 posted on 06/10/2004 11:11:00 AM PDT by discostu (Brick urgently required, must be thick and well kept)
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To: TrueBeliever9

HOw else do you account for banning Ephedra, in the midst of a National obesity epidemic....?


66 posted on 06/10/2004 11:13:14 AM PDT by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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To: freeeee

No, mine is a wholesale aknowledgement to the dangers of activist courts. I'm fighting the assertion that any damn thing you can think of is a right.

As you said "nearly infinite" that means not everything is a right, taking vitamins is on that list.


67 posted on 06/10/2004 11:13:35 AM PDT by discostu (Brick urgently required, must be thick and well kept)
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To: discostu
"Silly things" is a subjective term. Care to try again?

You don't have a right to wear paisleys, you don't have a right to pick your nose, you don't have a right to see he Jackass movie, you don't have a right to have chocolate cake for breakfast, you don't have a right to be an annoying git.

If others can dictate the smallest details of my life, perhaps you can explain our country's claim to liberty? How does your version differ from that of oppressive countries?

68 posted on 06/10/2004 11:17:20 AM PDT by freeeee ("Owning" property in the US just means you have one less landlord.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

You should look at what's happened in the EU. No vitamins without a Dr's perscription.


69 posted on 06/10/2004 11:18:13 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: discostu
As you said "nearly infinite" that means not everything is a right

Because non-enumerated rights do not include actions that infringe upon the rights of others (life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness), they are said to be nearly infinite.

70 posted on 06/10/2004 11:20:03 AM PDT by freeeee ("Owning" property in the US just means you have one less landlord.)
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To: discostu

Your post doesn't respond to this point: "Your argument, if taken to its logical conclusion would preclude [...] the right to bear arms, lest government be compelled to provide you a weapon."


71 posted on 06/10/2004 11:20:31 AM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: discostu
Life liberty persuit of happiness

Liberty includes the liberty to tak vitamins.

72 posted on 06/10/2004 11:22:02 AM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: freeeee

The difference is in thinking that just because the fed isn't allowed to regulate it that means no one is. Back in the old days the 10th Ammendment was respected and states and cities could ban stuff the fed couldn't. That was when we understood that not everything a person wanted to do was a right. Now we try to stop the fed from doings stuff in a way that will also stop the states and cities. What's wrong with a city deciding it's a vitamin free zone, we've still got dry counties in this country and the reason we do is that we've never taken the silly step of declaring there to be a right to drink alcohol. The mass production of rights disempowers state and local governments, thus killing states rights. The liberty is in letting states and lower levels of government decide things for themselves instead of forcing them to allow every single made up psuedo-right just so we could keep the fed from writing a bad law.


73 posted on 06/10/2004 11:22:07 AM PDT by discostu (Brick urgently required, must be thick and well kept)
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To: Know your rights; discostu
Your post doesn't respond to this point: "Your argument, if taken to its logical conclusion would preclude [...] the right to bear arms, lest government be compelled to provide you a weapon."

Here's another:

It would also preclude freedom of religion, lest government be compelled to provide you a God.

74 posted on 06/10/2004 11:24:23 AM PDT by freeeee ("Owning" property in the US just means you have one less landlord.)
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To: Know your rights

Check your federalist papers. Madison wanted the 2nd ammendment to include distribution and training. IMHO it would have been cool if he'd won that argument (even though Jefferson's objections were correct, a tyranical government just would have distributed substandard weapons and poor training) just because it would kill all the stupid 2A arguments the liberals have today.

Then of course there's JFK citizenship marksmanship program (which was eventually killed by Clinton) that actually did just what Madison wanted but for a nominal fee (I think it was $100, for which you got an M1 and 8 hours of training).


75 posted on 06/10/2004 11:25:15 AM PDT by discostu (Brick urgently required, must be thick and well kept)
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To: OXENinFLA

LOL


76 posted on 06/10/2004 11:25:28 AM PDT by cyborg
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To: discostu
The storehouse of rights is in our own ability to use our minds. A right to use vitamins is inherrently moronic

Is a right to eat food "inherently moronic"?

77 posted on 06/10/2004 11:27:01 AM PDT by Know your rights (The modern enlightened liberal doesn't care what you believe as long as you don't really believe it.)
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To: hobbes1
I am hopeful that this thread will get bumped BIG TIME!

I copied it and sent it to everyone on my personal email list.

78 posted on 06/10/2004 11:28:38 AM PDT by TrueBeliever9 (Life is uncertain. Ride your best horse first. Unknown but sounds like John Wayne.)
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To: discostu
Your point is well taken.

Though I am a libertarian I am not unwilling to compromise. In exchange for limits on the federal government I would accept state's powers to regulate such as you suggested.

In that way, Americans could vote with their feet to a state or locality most agreeable to their way of life. You could go somewhere that vitamins are regulated, I could go someplace they are not. The "laboratories of democracy" would be the judge of our actions.

Come to think of it, that's precisely how our country was set up. Too bad we've become 'smarter' than that!

79 posted on 06/10/2004 11:29:20 AM PDT by freeeee ("Owning" property in the US just means you have one less landlord.)
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To: hobbes1

Irony...


80 posted on 06/10/2004 11:29:49 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (For an Evil Super Genius, you aren't too bright are you?)
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