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Muslim GI gets 14 months for avoiding duties in Iraq
Stars & Stripes ^ | 6.5.04

Posted on 06/04/2004 4:11:24 PM PDT by ambrose

Muslim GI gets 14 months for avoiding duties in Iraq

By Rick Emert, Stars and Stripes European edition, Saturday, June 5, 2004

BAMBERG, Germany - A 1st Infantry Division Engineer Brigade soldier who refused to deploy to Iraq citing religious beliefs was sentenced Thursday to 14 months' confinement and given a bad-conduct discharge.

During his court-martial, Sgt. 1st Class Abdullah Webster, 38, pleaded guilty to two counts of disobeying a lawful order from a superior commissioned officer and one count of missing movement.

When his unit was deploying on Feb. 8, Webster - the battalion security noncommissioned officer - told his leaders he would not deploy based on guidance he received from Muslim clerics.

Prosecutors Maj. Vince Vanek and Capt. Catherine Cunningham asked government witnesses about the effect Webster's refusal to deploy had on the unit.

Maj. David Kennedy, executive officer of the 82nd Engineer Battalion when Webster was assigned to the unit, said the refusal had only a modest effect on the unit because it distracted soldiers from their missions.

But Command Sgt. Maj. John S. Gioia, the 82nd Engineer Battalion's top NCO, said the unit in Iraq is now short-handed.

"We are a battalion covering a brigade combat team-sized sector," Gioia said as he testified via telephone from Iraq. "It has had a significant impact on the unit."

Gioia also said some soldiers had reservations of deploying with Webster, who converted to Islam in 1994 after returning from Operation Desert Storm.

Gioia brought up an incident in which Sgt. Asan Akbar, a Muslim soldier assigned to the 101st Airborne Division, allegedly threw a grenade into a tent killing one U.S. soldier and wounding a dozen more in March 2003.

"Some of the soldiers, when Webster didn't go, were saying: 'This is great, now we can do our job without having to watch our backs,'" Gioia testified.

Also testifying via telephone from Iraq, engineer brigade commander Col. William Haight III said Webster was "truly struggling" with his responsibilities to the Army and to his religion.

"His reputation is solid," Haight said. "The problems were when we had missions in Muslim countries; that's when he started drawing the line."

However, several witnesses testified that Webster deployed to Kosovo, a largely Muslim country, and that he carried a weapon. But the battalion commander during the Kosovo deployment, Lt. Col. Thomas Quigley, said Webster never had to go on a security patrol there.

Quigley also agreed with defense attorney Capt. Christopher Ryan that the situations in Kosovo and Iraq were far different, with the former being a peace enforcement mission and the latter being an all-out war.

Air Force Chaplain (Capt.) Hamza Al-Mubarak, an imam based at Ramstein Air Base, testified for the defense that Webster had done the right thing.

Al-Mubarak said Webster consulted several Muslim scholars, and that he chose not to deploy because the clerics said it would be better for him to die than to bear arms against fellow Muslims.

"I would not say he's an extremist," Al-Mubarak testified during cross-examination. "He was adhering to the sincere advice of the scholars. It is not permissible for him to take up arms and kill another Muslim.

"It would be better for him that he was killed than to pick up arms against anyone."

Webster had prepared a conscientious objector packet, but it was disapproved at the unit level. It has advanced to the 1st Infantry Division level, and if disapproved there, it will go to the Army level.

But Webster does not qualify as a conscientious objector, because he was not opposed to all wars, only wars in Muslim nations, Quigley said.

In closing remarks, Cunningham asked Hall to ignore the fact that Webster was a senior NCO with 18 years of service. Webster faced a maximum prison term of five years.

"Duty called; he didn't answer," she said. "There is a message to be sent. You cannot look at rank in this case."


TOPICS: Extended News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: balkans; courtmartial; islamconvert
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To: tbpiper

Thanks.


21 posted on 06/04/2004 4:32:18 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: ambrose

I'm becoming suspicious of every Muslim I encounter.


22 posted on 06/04/2004 4:33:11 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: ambrose
"His reputation is solid," Haight said. "The problems were when we had missions in Muslim countries; that's when he started drawing the line."

Then his reputation is not solid. By his own actions, it's pretty clear to me that this "soldier" serves not the United States of America, but Islamic Jihad.

14 months is far too light a sentence.

23 posted on 06/04/2004 4:34:58 PM PDT by Prime Choice (John Kerry is a butthead! ...or worse, a used car salesman.)
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To: ambrose

One of them was probably named Terry McVeigh.


24 posted on 06/04/2004 4:36:44 PM PDT by livius
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To: ambrose

What the military needs to learn is that for 99% of Muslims, their "religion" comes first. Their commitment to their country is not an issue for them, as it does not exist for this country. So they should not be in the military, period.


25 posted on 06/04/2004 4:37:13 PM PDT by cgk (Rumsfeld: Our task, your task... is to try to connect the dots before something happens.)
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To: ambrose

Well those soldiers that converted and married the iraqi women maybe.


26 posted on 06/04/2004 4:37:28 PM PDT by pitinkie
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To: ConservativeVoice

Hopefully, they beat his ass in the stockade.


27 posted on 06/04/2004 4:37:56 PM PDT by bfree (Liberals are EVIL!!!)
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To: MarineDad

Gimme the bullets I'll gladly shoot the son of a b****.


28 posted on 06/04/2004 4:39:11 PM PDT by fuzzycat
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To: tbpiper
Islam is a cancer.

Absolutely..
calling COBRA!

29 posted on 06/04/2004 4:39:34 PM PDT by evad ("Such an enemy cannot be deterred, detained, appeased, or negotiated with. It can only be destroyed")
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To: Prime Choice

I don't think muslims should be allowed to enter the services because they could not be trusted. But you've got to give this guy credit for not bolting to canada like those other "objectors."


30 posted on 06/04/2004 4:39:44 PM PDT by freeangel (freeangel)
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To: ambrose
Gioia also said some soldiers had reservations of deploying with Webster, who converted to Islam in 1994 after returning from Operation Desert Storm.

Abdullah, if he had paid a little attention in school, could have learned that the Muslims were among the first to trade Slaves out of Africa, walking them out of Africa east. How African-Americans can convert to a Religion that condoned African Slavery and still advocates Slavery defies logic. American schools in their teaching of history insinuate that the United States was the only transporter of Slaves and responsible for all the slave trade, Abdullahs are the result of this education.

Americans are Americans and if you don't or won't defend this country get out. Muslims want what this country can give but do not want our culture. If you wont assimilate get out, this is not the melting pot of the early immigrants.

31 posted on 06/04/2004 4:39:54 PM PDT by BIGZ
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To: ambrose
"...the clerics said it would be better for him to die than to bear arms against fellow Muslims.'

So be it.

32 posted on 06/04/2004 4:39:56 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack ("We deal in hard calibers and hot lead." - Roland Deschaines)
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To: tbpiper
Islam is a cancer.

You just insulted cancer. Islam is worse than that.

Regards.

33 posted on 06/04/2004 4:40:10 PM PDT by Mark17
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To: swarthyguy
"Air Force Chaplain (Capt.) Hamza Al-Mubarak, an imam based at Ramstein Air Base, testified for the defense that Webster had done the right thing."

General Patton would have stood them both in front of a firing squad.

34 posted on 06/04/2004 4:43:01 PM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that does not trust you with guns?)
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To: Mark17

Just shoot him now.


35 posted on 06/04/2004 4:43:42 PM PDT by jocko12
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To: ambrose

When he converted to Muslim he should have quit the Military.
His allegiance now belongs to his religion not his country.


36 posted on 06/04/2004 4:45:06 PM PDT by just me
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To: swarthyguy

This has always been a rather obscure point. Personally, I think McVeigh probably had converted - since Muslims are allowed to lie to the rest of us idiots - but thought it would be better not to mention this, although it seems that he frequently referred to Gulf War I. (He was a nut on a number of other levels as well, of course.)

His buddy Nichols is obviously a "follower" - but it's strange that the family of his mail-order bride lived in the same apartment building in the Philippines that was inhabited by a bunch of Muslim terrorists, including those who were planning on killing the Pope on his visit (IIRC).


37 posted on 06/04/2004 4:45:43 PM PDT by livius
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To: swarthyguy

Air Force Chaplain (Capt.) Hamza Al-Mubarak, deserves JAIL also.


38 posted on 06/04/2004 4:46:58 PM PDT by steplock (http://www.gohotsprings.com)
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To: ambrose

Take him to Iraq and drop the sob raghead from the plane/helicopter at 10,000+ feet...ragheads should be dispatched to meet their fu*king virgins now with the excepton if they vociferously and sincerely urge their fellow ragheads to oppose the current raghead position of terrorism.


39 posted on 06/04/2004 4:47:31 PM PDT by MarkT
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To: livius

Also, Nichols made many visits to Manila, when he already had procured a wife who was living here. And the militia angle is convenient because some of the wackier militias rhetoric mirrored that of the jihadis, ZOG, etc.

Food for thought.


40 posted on 06/04/2004 4:49:26 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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