Pizza Hut, maybe not my favorite anymore. FREEPable poll at the end of the article.

WorldNet Daily ^ | Posted: June 1, 2004 | © 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

[petro45acp]

A pizza deliveryman won't face charges for fatally shooting a would-be robber several times when he was approached in a high-crime area, but his employer, Pizza Hut, has fired him for violating a company policy against carrying firearms.

Ronald B. Honeycutt, 38, who has a permit to carry a concealed weapon, says he's been delivering pizzas for 20 years and has always packed heat on the job.

According to a report in the Indianapolis Star, prosecutors announced Friday the Carmel, Ind., man will not face criminal charges.

[GrandEagle]

No more pizza hut in my house.
If your going to go this route, be sure and write or call corporate HQ and let them know. They won't care at all, but it is still necessary to voice your complaint.
Where it does matter at times, it when you also voice your issue with the OWNER of your local business franchise or district/area management of company owned stores. They are the ones that can get policy matters changed; and have a financial incentive to do so. I may do the same, however it is unlikely to matter.

[MamaTexan]

Oh, I thought you were braggin' about the great state of Texas!

LOL! Well, usually I am.

I think if you get caught not following the law in the state, you will find they have 'squat' to say.

Depends on what the meaning of 'law' is, doesn't it?

[CR]

I couldn't have said it better myself.

The company I work for has a strict "no weapons" policy which includes knives other than very small pocket knives. With very few exceptions, I don't carry at work. I leave my gun in my car. There have been a very few exceptions when I felt I was at risk and decided to carry at work, knowing full well that if I were found with the gun, I would be fired.

I am a manager, I remember clearly one time when one of my employees came to me. He had been threatened by an angry customer and he believed the guy was actually coming with a shotgun. He asked me if he could carry at work. I told him to call the local cops and report the threat. Then I repeated company policy to him, told him that if I SAW him with a gun at work I would have to fire him but that he would have to weight the risks himself. "Remember what I said" I told him "don't let me see you with a gun."

He got the message.

I went to my car and got my pistol and I am confident he did the same. Of course, I will never know for sure since I never saw him with a gun.

By the way, the guy never showed up. Of course, within a few minutes for reporting the threat, we had a cop car parked outside the front entrance for the rest of the day.

[HairOfTheDog]

Depends on what the meaning of 'law' is, doesn't it?

Actually the meaning of 'law' is pretty settled.

[kylaka]

Perhaps they mean any one of the shots would have been fatal.
Being the shooter, I would have done the same just in case the shootee thought he had more than one life.

[HairOfTheDog]

Interesting, how could you shoot someone fatally several times?

Maybe you are just commenting on an "inartful" sentence, but I think you'll find that in most cases of self-defense, the shooter fires several times, most often emptying the gun.

[GrandEagle]

Fortunately the engineering firm where I work has no such policy. Most of the people that work there are fairly level headed and we only have about three (out of 45 or so employees) liberals, with only on that we call our "token" flaming liberal.
There are several of us who carry around the office (our office - not when on a job site), but all do discreetly so not to alert the political correctness of the liberals. If so alerted, they could probably make a good case to the owner to have such a policy for insurance reasons. I'm not too sure he would establish one, but why push it.
Our office is in a lightly industrial area at the end of a street. Just up the street is a VERY high crime area. A few years back I was working very late over a weekend. The threat level required more than the 9x18mm that I usually carry in an ankle holster. I had my .45 Colt with two extra mags openly on my hip when in walked the owner. He came in, we discussed the project, ordered lunch (oddly enough from Pizza Hut). We worked together until around 2am when he left. I left around 4am or so.
Never a word was spoken, he didn't even acknowledge that I was carrying.
The advantage if living in a state where it is not that unusual to see someone "packing heat" as they say.

[Wacka]

If Pizza Hut is the best pizza in your area, I feel sorry for you.

[cinFLA]

Please do a search and please use the actual title.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/search?s=Pizza+man+saved+by+gun%2C+&ok=Search&q=quick&m=all&o=time&SX=40bcac27ffa060e33c8886c796267100442ce013

[GrandEagle]

If Pizza Hut is the best pizza in your area, I feel sorry for you
EXCELLENT POINT!! LOL!

[TBarnett34]

Ah, the beauty of insurance companies and their stranglehold on America..

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

I didn't say it was MY favorite pizza. I do like it, however.

[hoosierpearl]

I read several articles in the Indianapolis Star about this, and the guy didn't have much time. Everything was happening quickly. He just started shooting and kept firing. He didn't want to take a chance in case one shot missed the guy.

At least he wasn't prosecuted for the shooting. And the perp won't be bothering anyone else.

Carmel, where he lives, is a ritzy area north of Indy. I think he was working somewhere else than Carmel.

[HairOfTheDog]

I think most self defense shootings empty the gun and the shooter only remembers the first shot. It's just instinct. Fire till you can't any more.

[discostu]

Most places that are frequent crime victims (convenience stores, fast food joints, delivery places, taxi companies) have a no weapons and no self defense policy. And you're right, it's strictly for insurance purposes, all the insurance companies are terrified of pimply burger flippers and robbers getting into a gunfight and killing some innocent mother of 4. You know and I know that'll probably never happen, but insurance companies are in the business of worrying about the highly unlikely.

If folks are gonna start boycotting companies based on this policy I recommend becoming Amish and learning how to live entirely off the land, pretty much any place that has a cash register has this policy, it's SOP.

[discostu]

Problem is once it becomes a news story they can't look the other way. Once everybody knows they have to do something, and if they don't fire the guy they're at risk of losing their insurance or even getting sued by their insurance company for fraud, and depending on the laws in the city in question they could even lose their business license if they aren't insured.

[Nonesuch]

If I owned a good independent Indianapolis area pizza parlor, I'd hire him in a flash.

No reason to let on to my insurance carrier about his history (he does have a clean criminal record, that should be all that matters.

OTOH, I might hint that he might want to spend more time at the range; 10 hits out of 15 rounds is a score that could improve.

[Old Professer]

Why are we arguing over a loser?