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CA freepers, RED ALERT Thread 2
Alliance for America ^ | May 2, 2004 | Rose Comstock

Posted on 05/27/2004 6:11:18 AM PDT by forester

Sierra Conservancy bills - Gov needs to hear from you

DATE: MAY 2, 2004

TO: ALL GRASSROOTS AND CONCERNED CITIZENS . . . . . . . . . . . (PLEASE SHARE WITH YOUR LIST OF CONTACTS)

FROM: ROSE COMSTOCK - PRESIDENT - ALLIANCE FOR AMERICA           www.allianceforamerica.org

WHAT:    Wednesday of this week the California Assembly Appropriations Committee approved two bills that would establish a Sierra Nevada Conservancy.

Governor Schwarzenegger has indicated that he intends to create a Sierra Nevada Conservancy during his first term in office. These two bills-AB 1788 and AB 2600-present radically different ways of doing so.

AB 2600 by Assemblyman Laird (D-Santa Cruz) would give Sierra residents virtually no say in the conservancy's operations. In contrast, AB 1788 by Assemblyman Leslie (R-Tahoe City) would create an entirely new type of conservancy. It would ensure that a large portion of the conservancy board is comprised of locally-elected officials, and it would give local communities the right to say "no" to projects they find objectionable.

Yesterday, however, staff members of the Appropriations Committee removed the parts of AB 1788 that gave local communities a "veto" power over objectionable projects.

Assemblyman Leslie has stated unequivocally that he will actively oppose any Conservancy language that does not provide local communities a point of real leverage in the decision-making process. If he cannot amend AB 1788 and return meaningful local influence to the bill, he wishes to "assure the residents of the Sierra that he will drop his own bill and actively oppose any attempts at creation of a conservancy-regardless of the possibility that AB 2600 may become the law of California."

ACTION: There is only a small window of opportunity to generate pressure to reinstate language that ensures strong local voice in the conservancy decision-making process! Both bills are headed for the Assembly Floor next week. Governor Schwarzenegger, the Resources Agency, and members of the Assembly need to hear from you! Governor Schwarzenegger can still intervene, but he will only do that if he gets strong pressure from all of us.  Make your calls beginning Monday, May 24th, send your faxed letter and emails all next week until a vote occurs.

Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger http://www.governor.ca.gov/state/govsite/gov_homepage.jsp State Capitol Building Sacramento, CA 95814 Phone: 916-445-2841 Fax: 916-445-4633 governor@governor.ca.gov

Secretary of Resources Mike Chrisman

California Resources Agency Sacramento, CA 95812-2815 Phone: (916) 653-5656 (916) 653-8102 fax http://resources.ca.gov/

          Assistant to the Secretary for Resources:           Cynthia J. Paulsen           Cyndy.Paulsen@Resources.Ca.Gov

Members of the State Assembly

To find your State Assembly member: http://www.assembly.ca.gov/

TALKING POINTS:

  • Any proposed conservancy gives us cause for serious concern. Countless problems have been created in our region by state employees with no accountability to the people and little connection to the areas their decisions impact. Like the Governor, it is our desire to see government become more responsive and connected to the people, not less so.
  • If there is to be a Sierra Nevada Conservancy, it must be built upon respect for and collaboration with the people who live in the Sierra.
  • Such a conservancy can be established only if its design requires collaborative decision-making. The Conservancy board must contain strong representation from the Sierra region, and, more importantly, any major board action must be based upon general consensus with local elected officials.
  • Local governments are responsible for local land use planning and decisions, and are held accountable by their constituents for such decisions. Unless local government has the ability to say "no" to conservancy acquisitions it finds objectionable, the conservancy will have the power to approve acquisitions with no local oversight.
  • Giving local communities a true voice would be unique for a conservancy. However, any conservancy stretching across the entire Sierra Nevada would be unique. No existing conservancy contains the vast area, diverse sub-regions, and varied land uses encompassed by the Sierras.
  • The best government efforts always draw from the perspective, volunteerism, and commitment of local communities. By ensuring the conservancy only undertakes projects embraced by local communities, we can create the goodwill and trust critical to effective efforts.
  • In addition, a new conservancy must not be funded on the backs of taxpayers. How can Sacramento lawmakers justify crating another agency in the business of buying up more land, while the state is dealing with a severe budget deficit affecting education, healthcare, fire protection and other vital services? Unless its funding is drawn from existing conservation programs, new conservancy would only add to the existing budget burden the state is facing.

Background:

http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/acsframeset2text.htm - AB1788 Leslie This bill creates the Sierra Nevada Conservancy (SNC) in the Resources Agency, with a governing board consisting of 20 voting members and three non-voting members, to acquire, and direct the management, of public lands located primarily within the "Core Sierra Nevada Region."

http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/acsframeset2text.htm - AB2600 Laird  This bill creates the Sierra Nevada Conservancy (SNC) in the Resources Agency, with a governing board consisting of seven voting members and three non-voting members to undertake activities that encourage tourism and recreation, protect, conserve, and restore the region's resources, reduce the risk of natural disaster, protect water quality, help local economies, identify high priority projects for funding, enhance public use and enjoyment of public lands, and advance environmental preservation and economic well-being.

http://forests.org/articles/reader.asp?linkid=31721

In the Heights of Sierra, It's Hard to Give an Inch Source: Copyright 2004, LA Times Date: May 16, 2004 Byline: Julie Cart, Times Staff Writer

The Sierra Nevada's rural communities share more than 400 miles of the granite mountain range and an unswerving conviction that the region should not be dictated to from afar.

But that independent streak threatens to scuttle a five-year effort to create a Sierra Nevada Conservancy, which could funnel millions of dollars to the economically depressed region while protecting its vaunted scenery and natural resources.

Two bills in the Assembly that would create a conservancy could be defeated as a result of the region's reluctance to cede authority to outsiders and because of fear that too much land will be put off-limits to hunting, fishing, livestock grazing and other traditional activities.

Originally posted at: http://www.latimes.com/news/science/environment/la-me-sierra16may16,1,6491835.story?coll=la-news-environment



TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; US: California
KEYWORDS: ab1788; ab2600; conservancy; dougmcintyre; governmentstupidity; kabc; sierraconservancy; sierranevada; socialism
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To: farmfriend

Evening bump.


41 posted on 05/28/2004 11:11:33 PM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: GVgirl

ping


42 posted on 05/28/2004 11:31:20 PM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: DoughtyOne

ping


43 posted on 05/29/2004 11:51:30 AM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: farmfriend

Well, it's nice you are aware of this stuff too. I guess I'll quit worrying.


44 posted on 05/29/2004 11:59:23 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: farmfriend; tertiary01
Farmfriend... did you get this one? Not sure if this is new or old... it came in early this morning.

Also, are you keeping a ping list for this? If so... tertiary01 is interested.
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CURRENT BILL STATUS

MEASURE	:           A.B. No. 1788
AUTHOR(S):          Leslie.
TOPIC:              Sierra Nevada Conservancy.
HOUSE LOCATION:     SEN
+LAST AMENDED DATE: 05/26/2004

TYPE OF BILL :  
                Active
                Non-Urgency
                Non-Appropriations
                Majority Vote Required
                State-Mandated Local Program
                Fiscal
                Non-Tax Levy

LAST HIST. ACT. DATE:  05/28/2004
LAST HIST. ACTION   :  In Senate.  Read first time.  To Com. on RLS. for assignment.

TITLE	:  An act to add Division 23.3 (commencing with Section
	33300) to the Public Resources Code, relating to the
	Sierra Nevada Conservancy.

45 posted on 05/29/2004 12:43:21 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: B4Ranch
Tape a 30-06 round to the top of the page.

For that they would hunt you down like a dog.

Send them a postcard from your new home in a surrounding state, that may make em think ( but I doubt it)

46 posted on 05/29/2004 2:12:59 PM PDT by Mister Baredog ((The French can"t even build an airport))
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To: ExSoldier
"What would you suggest as an appropriate title that conveys the message that socialist legislation threatens our way of life?"

How about one more adjective to the word alert: WACKO RED ALERT!

47 posted on 05/29/2004 2:15:03 PM PDT by Mister Baredog ((The French can"t even build an airport))
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To: calcowgirl; tertiary01
All three of the bills we are tracking have moved to the Senate, been read (which means introduced) and are awaiting their committee assignment. I called Senator Oller's office Friday and talked to his staff. They want us to write letters to our Senator and the Governor. I'm going to writing a letter to the editor of the Bee on ab2631, the invasive species bill. I will try to garner some radio play as well. I've started posting these bills to other forums to reach as many as I can.

As for the ping list, I have been using three different lists. The rights farm environment, the short list (which has a general interest use) and the Sac area list. Which one do you want to be on?

48 posted on 05/29/2004 3:18:45 PM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: Mister Baredog
Perfect!
49 posted on 05/29/2004 5:37:02 PM PDT by ExSoldier (When the going gets tough, the tough go cyclic. (R.I.P. harpseal))
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To: farmfriend

If the Sac area list includes the Sierra Nevada, that list will be fine.
Thanks


50 posted on 05/29/2004 7:28:21 PM PDT by tertiary01 (The left rewards NO virtues)
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To: tertiary01

It does if you are in El Dorado, Placer or Nevada Counties. Adding you.


51 posted on 05/30/2004 12:29:55 AM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: farmfriend

bttt


52 posted on 05/30/2004 11:06:11 PM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: SierraWasp
RE: "Linda Bowles, Ronauldus Maximus ...sigh"

Amen. Seems the good ones are always taken from us far too soon.

53 posted on 05/31/2004 9:43:21 AM PDT by Seadog Bytes ("Smart Growth...ISN'T !!!")
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To: farmfriend; GVgirl

I saw someone announce on the CA board that Our Lady of Grass Valley is busy with a brand new baby!!! Congratulations, MOM!!!


54 posted on 05/31/2004 10:11:11 AM PDT by SierraWasp (STOP PREMPTIVE JOURNALISM!!! A malevolent media can kill America's will, AGAIN!!!)
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To: SierraWasp
Good Gawd. NOT ME!!! I've been done with kids for years.

You farmfriend?

55 posted on 05/31/2004 12:17:45 PM PDT by GVnana
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To: GVgirl
Aw chit! I wuz you congratin sumbudy else!!! I misunderstood!!!

"GVgirl 05/28/2004 6:23:35 PM PDT

Congratulations on your new baby girl."

Sorry 'bout that, but I guess I sure gotcher attenshun!!!

56 posted on 05/31/2004 8:53:27 PM PDT by SierraWasp (STOP PREMPTIVE JOURNALISM!!! A malevolent media can kill America's will, AGAIN!!!)
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To: forester; farmfriend; All

RE: Letter to Governor (#20 this thread)

I have heard nothing back from the Governor, but I DID get this email (below) back from Tim Leslie's Office, which I thought I might share with you. If nothing else, I am impressed with his PR department - since I am not in his district. No big deal of course, but at least it says SOMEONE in his office is paying attention. Am I 'reading between the lines' correctly if I infer from his response that he might actually *LIKE* to get some more correspondence of the sort he might get from this group? ...perhaps an encouragement to others who might consider writing?



*Farmfriend*, I have no idea how to 'ping' the other threads re this, nor whether it would be a good idea to do that or not, so I will leave it up to you to do whatever else you might deem appropriate with this. (Thanks!!!)
Oh. Is this fight still going on, or...??? Is there something else we should be doing? - More of the same...or...?


-----Original Message-----
From: Assemblymember Leslie Constituent Mailbox [mailto:Assemblymember.Leslie@assembly.ca.gov]
Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 13:29
Subject: RE: Proposed Sierra Nevada Conservancy

Dear ......,

I did receive your earlier letter and thought it was very well expressed. Thank you for taking the time to make the voice of the Sierra heard in this place. We need all the voice we can get!

Sincerely,
Tim Leslie
Assemblyman, 4th District


57 posted on 06/01/2004 7:29:38 PM PDT by Seadog Bytes ("OPM - The Liberal Solution to ALL of Society's Ills !!!" (...O_ther P_eople's M_oney))
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To: Seadog Bytes; adversarial; Alylonee; AmericanHombre; BibChr; blaze; BornOnTheFourth; budwiesest; ...
I talked to Senator Oller's staff. They talked to Leslie about why he sponsored this bill. He is certain that we will get a conservancy, it's inevitable in his opinion, so he authored this bill to help maintain some local control over the beast.

I'm going to try and see if our lobbyist will go talk to the committees once the bills have been assigned. Since I don't have access to State Net anymore I will have to try to find out the hearing dates on the public stuff. Oh joy.

58 posted on 06/01/2004 7:37:06 PM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: Carry_Okie; forester; sasquatch; B4Ranch; SierraWasp; hedgetrimmer; knews_hound; ...
Short list to catch those not on the Sac area list. My opologies to those in other states.

Check out the last couple of posts.

59 posted on 06/01/2004 7:40:26 PM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: CalifornianConservative
Call up Doug McIntyre on KABC talk radio in Los Angeles from midnight to three or four am with this red alert. 1 800 222 5222!

Oh no... another chance for Doug to burst some blood vessels inre the likes of Joe Edmisten!

60 posted on 06/01/2004 7:58:33 PM PDT by zoyd (Hi, I'm with the government. We're going to make you like your neighbor.)
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