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CA freepers, RED ALERT Thread 2
Alliance for America ^ | May 2, 2004 | Rose Comstock

Posted on 05/27/2004 6:11:18 AM PDT by forester

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To: forester

RED ALERT (Property Rights)or something similar.

This defines the issue at hand for the reader.


61 posted on 06/01/2004 7:59:51 PM PDT by B4Ranch (“If all that Americans want is security, they can go to prison-Dwight Eisenhower-12/8/49)
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To: B4Ranch
My letter to the editor of the Sacramento Bee.

I read the article on the next round of the poisoning of Lake Davis (Lake Davis on hook again, May 31, 2004) dreading what it portends for the rest of the state. This will soon be the standard.

AB 2631 is an invasive species bill that has passed the Assembly and is now in the Senate. The intent is to go after mitten crabs and star thistle. The implications are much worse.

Are we going to go after barred owls that are displacing the spotted owl? How about the wild horses roaming the arid areas? Are we going to change our policy on coho salmon? Archeology shows these fish are not native to CA. What about all those eucalyptus trees? Shall we cut them all?

And the budget! How is the creation of a whole new bureaucracy going to effect that?

And to those who think that the ESA took their property rights away, wait until you can’t build that dream house or plow that field or graze those cattle because they want to promote some native grass, endangered or not.

I'll let everyone know if it gets published.

62 posted on 06/01/2004 11:50:38 PM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: adversarial; Alylonee; AmericanHombre; BibChr; blaze; BornOnTheFourth; budwiesest; Burlem; ...

Sorry forgot to ping everyone to that last post.


63 posted on 06/01/2004 11:52:51 PM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: farmfriend

BTT!!!!!!


64 posted on 06/02/2004 3:05:17 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: farmfriend

BTTT!!!!!


65 posted on 06/02/2004 3:07:40 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: farmfriend
Bravo!!! Very Well done!!!

You've brought it home to were even the flatlander city slickers live... In their back yards!!!

66 posted on 06/02/2004 6:46:09 AM PDT by SierraWasp (STOP THE PRE-EMPTIVE JOURNALISM WAR!!! The Kerrorist media want to kill America's will, AGAIN!!!)
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To: farmfriend

Just keep in touch with Tom in Oller's office who you spoke with and he'll let you know about the committee hearing dates.


67 posted on 06/02/2004 7:54:19 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan
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To: B4Ranch
RED ALERT (Property Rights)or something similar. This defines the issue at hand for the reader.

I carried over the original thread title to this thread. You are right, a little clarification would have probably have eliminated critism like that drivel in post #47.

It blows me away how so many think that this kind of stuff is no big deal. I was out on a 13 acre parcel yesterday explaining to the landowner how the State will not issue him a permit to cut any trees within 150' of the creek that flows through his property...he may cut them for firewood, but may not sell them to a sawmill for profit....all of this from a State $15 billion in the hole...so who are the wackos here?

68 posted on 06/02/2004 8:39:16 AM PDT by forester ( An economy that is overburdened by government eventually results in collapse)
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To: forester

>>so who are the wackos here?
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Over the years you have certainly shown us that you are not amongst that group.


69 posted on 06/02/2004 8:53:04 AM PDT by B4Ranch (“If all that Americans want is security, they can go to prison-Dwight Eisenhower-12/8/49)
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To: B4Ranch

Thank you


70 posted on 06/02/2004 9:08:10 AM PDT by forester ( An economy that is overburdened by government eventually results in collapse)
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To: forester
What gives, we send someone to 'terminate' the status quo, yet they succumb to the left's agenda? Is it magic dust or something? Does spending hours with these socialist/tyrannists eventually rub off on you? Might there be a vaccine?

The g*ddamn left will kill this country. Didn't Feinstein set aside 6 Million acres of desert not too long ago? When it comes to quad-runner vs. tortoise, the turtle had better pick up the pace.

What the h*ll ever happened to "this land is your land, this land is my land"?

Welcome to Gulag California. The abuses committed by the left against the citizens of this state are on par with Abu Ghraib (sp?) They may not have nude citizens stacked in pyramids or leashes attached for their personal pleasure (well, ok, maybe in San Francisco), but, they're getting damn close. At times like this I'm reminded of these words:
From the Declaration of Independence....

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. --Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government.

Individuals are perhaps more suseptible to abuses from the State than were the colonies as they pose less of a threat to an absolute despot. Unorganized, racially fractured, publically educated....yeah, that's the guy you want sharing your foxhole. < /sarcasm>

71 posted on 06/02/2004 3:39:44 PM PDT by budwiesest
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To: ElkGroveDan

Thanks, that I can do.


72 posted on 06/02/2004 4:41:34 PM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: SierraWasp
Bravo!!! Very Well done!!!

Thank you.

73 posted on 06/02/2004 4:58:47 PM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: budwiesest; ElkGroveDan; farmfriend; Carry_Okie
"--Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government."

I like this part. It's so descriptive of today. Just replace "Colonies" with "Rural Counties" and then one realizes what has happened since the Warren Court's infamous "Cows Don't Vote" ruination of rural representation!!!

Fabulous rant! Right on the money... Tax money, that is!!!

Hey Dan! How come Rico isn't pounding his chest against these stupid GovernMental control freak/land grabbing bills? I know he just lost a tough campaign, but now is when we find out what he's really made of and we need his help, right? Doesn't he need a "cause" to focus on the foolishness of liberals? This would seem to be pretty close to It!!!

We need a Sierra-Nevada champion!!! NOW!!!

74 posted on 06/03/2004 6:32:45 AM PDT by SierraWasp (STOP THE PRE-EMPTIVE JOURNALISM WAR!!! The Kerrorist media want to kill America's will, AGAIN!!!)
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To: farmfriend
Bump. Good Letter!
75 posted on 06/03/2004 11:28:28 AM PDT by Seadog Bytes ("OPM - The Liberal Solution to ALL of Society's Ills !!!" (...O_ther P_eople's M_oney))
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To: Seadog Bytes

Thanks. Looks like it is going to be published.


76 posted on 06/03/2004 11:32:54 AM PDT by farmfriend ( In Essentials, Unity...In Non-Essentials, Liberty...In All Things, Charity.)
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To: budwiesest; Carry_Okie
What gives, we send someone to 'terminate' the status quo, yet they succumb to the left's agenda? Is it magic dust or something? Does spending hours with these socialist/tyrannists eventually rub off on you?

Arnold stated that he was for something like this prior to the election in a position paper on the environment...C-O did an analysis, and could probably provide the link if you are interested.

My favorite quote from the Declaration is - "He has erected a Multitude of new Offices and sent hither Swarms of Officers to harass our People and eat out their substance."

Madison also has a quote about more liberty is lost to gradual usurpations than to violent uprising, or something like that. Great rant by the way.

77 posted on 06/03/2004 3:40:02 PM PDT by forester ( An economy that is overburdened by government eventually results in collapse)
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An Analysis of Arnold Schwarzenegger's Environmental Policy
78 posted on 06/03/2004 4:36:27 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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